Environmentalists for a foreign agenda

[Locutus]

Canadians have no clue when the exhortations coming from Sierra Club, Greenpeace or the David Suzuki Foundation are financed by U.S. interests

We don’t allow foreigners to vote in our political campaigns for the obvious reason that our political leaders should court, and be accountable to, Canadians alone. We don’t allow foreigners to donate to political parties for a similar reason – we don’t want our politics to be unduly influenced by a foreign agenda. But we do allow foreigners to pursue their agenda in another way – by funding willing Canadian NGOs to make their case for them. Is this funding desirable in a free and democratic nation and if not, are there any remedies?

These questions have become acute due to the investigative work of Vivian Krause, an independent researcher whose articles on this page have in voluminous detail exposed the extent to which U.S. foundations fund activities in Canada, most notably to influence Canadians and Canadian policy over our tar sands, the chief target of global warming activists. Without some $100-million that U.S. foundations have spent swaying us to their point of view, tar sands development and the shipment of tar sands oil would be far less contentious a public issue.

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Lawrence Solomon: Environmentalists for a foreign agenda | Financial Post

 

[petros]

If Neil Young's moonbat tour passes through, I'm flattening the tires on his heavy oil burning tour bus.

 

[Cliffy]

The environment does not know political boundaries. The environment is the biosphere and it is global. Environmentalism is not a political issue but it does try to influence political decisions. The article is written by the usual pro rape and pillage mentally challenged.

 

[Zipperfish]

Sounds like sour grapes to me. There's alot of right-wing advocacy groups that get significant foreign funding as well. Curiously, not mentioned. Or perhaps not so curious. Lawrence Solomon is a member of an environmental advocacy group called "Energy Probe." I note that their website does not include a list of donors.

Why would you publish a column complaining that environmental advocacy groups don't tell people where their funding is coming from when you are the member of an environmental advocacy group that doesn't tell people where their funding is coming from?

 

[petros]

Maybe just maybe Exxon Mobil doesn't want oil sands to be developed which hurts their Alaskan projects and will channel funds through various front groups to enviro groups.

 

[Cliffy]

Maybe just maybe Exxon Mobil doesn't want oil sands to be developed which hurts their Alaskan projects and will channel funds through various front groups to enviro groups.

Ah, so it is the unethical war practices of industrial sabotage by the rapers and pillagers. Why is that not surprising?

 

[petros]

Not surprising at all that they'd use the weak minded to do their dirty work for them.


Politicians do it, why not industry?

 

[damngrumpy]

I may not be in favour of the Environmentalist crowd with their over the top gloom and doom
I do believe things are changing as part of a natural process. Could we do something to
mitigate the effect? Probably not but some personal things we can do to keep our surroundings
clean Yes. And we should. I don't believe in doing whatever the hell we please at the expense
of everyone else. I believe the Tar Sands could be done safely and no matter how much it costs
it should be done with the utmost care. As for the outside interests influencing the agenda, it will
go on as long as we are on this planet. Canada tries to influence world affairs as much as
anyone else. I think the green organizations are more about raising money for the cause more
than they are for the cause itself. Both side skew the numbers and the fringes of reality to scare
us. Yes scare us, and when that happens we either get scared or push back and the push back
is coming. If people actually sat down on both sides and formulated a plan that included the
real reality instead of the perceived reality the public would be educated and without the defencive
fear concept they might we willing to listen.

 

[petros]

I believe the Tar Sands could be done safely and no matter how much it costs it should be done with the utmost care.

It is. These "vast wastelands' as the moonbats call it is malarkey. Reclaimation is mandatory. And they are oil sands not tar sands, tar is a man made product. The environment made this mess and man is cleaning it up.

 

[EagleSmack]

It is. These "vast wastelands' as the moonbats call it is malarkey. Reclaimation is mandatory. And they are oil sands not tar sands, tar is a man made product. The environment made this mess and man is cleaning it up.

Tar sounds more scary.

 

[damngrumpy]

Petros you are right they are oil sands not tar sands I stand corrected.
I have nothing against using the product I just want to ensure they use
the best methods and yes cleanup is required and hopefully they will
meet their responsibility at cleanup time. Oil and gas are going to be
consumer products for a long time to come but some think we should
go back to that simpler time that never existed and live our imaginary
lives in total bliss. Of course the environmental mantra will be played
on loudspeakers everywhere so we don't stray from the prevailing
thought patterns laid out for us. I am really sick of both sides putting
up arguments and nothing more. As soon as the statistics start and
the CO2 levels enter the debate I'm gone.

 

[EagleSmack]

Conservative Tea Party Republican

 

[Zipperfish]

As soon as the statistics start and
the CO2 levels enter the debate I'm gone.

"A good man should know his limits."
-- Dirty Harry

:lol:

 

[Locutus]

"A good man should know his limits."
-- Dirty Harry

:lol:

And...always leave them wanting more...



Alright! That's it for me. Goodnight
everybody.

--George Costanza

 

[Trex]

Tides Foundation states it has funded anti-government and anti-development groups in Canada to the tune of $75 million over the last few years.
George Soros is part of the brain trust behind the Tides Foundation.
A typical Tides Foundation frontline worker would be folks like this guy; Brett Kimberlin (please google), whom Tides freely admits is one of their contract workers.

Tides news releases state that the $75 million in funding provided to "groups" in Canada include most of the more active and radical anti-development or anti-government associations,
Idle No More, the Ruckus Society and other Black Bloc affiliates.
Most of these groups advocate violence, vandalism and destruction of property as perfectly acceptable courses of action.

Imagine if you will a Canadian non profit organization boasting about pumping $75 million into overthrowing both the government and national industries of China, Russia, Singapore or Indonesia?
Bullet to the back of the head time for anyone associated I would think.

Imagine if you will a Canadian non profit organization boasting about pumping $75 million into overthrowing the government of Barak Obama?

Canadians need to start taking this stuff a lot more seriously.
Agencies that do not have Canadas best interests in mind are freely and openly funding subversive and potentially criminal elements within our society.

On another note guess who a majority funding agency of Mat Damon's anti fraccing film "Promised land" was?
After digging through a few shell companies it was found to be the United Arab Emirates one of the worlds richest gas and oil exporters.

Rule #1: Follow the money.
Rule #2: Money=Power.
Rule #3: It's always about money or power.

 

[taxslave]

The environment does not know political boundaries. The environment is the biosphere and it is global. Environmentalism is not a political issue but it does try to influence political decisions. The article is written by the usual pro rape and pillage mentally challenged.

These groups are funded not for environmental reasons but economic. Our greenies are stupid enough to believe that US oil and lumber interests are funding them to protect the earth when in reality they are simply trying to corner the market on their product.

Maybe just maybe Exxon Mobil doesn't want oil sands to be developed which hurts their Alaskan projects and will channel funds through various front groups to enviro groups.

Ya think?

 

[EagleSmack]

Tides Foundation states it has funded anti-government and anti-development groups in Canada to the tune of $75 million over the last few years.
George Soros is part of the brain trust behind the Tides Foundation.
.

He's already got his stack.

 

[BaalsTears]

Conservation is fine. However, environmentalism has evolved into a religious faith with a well paid priesthood.

 

[taxslave]

Conservation is fine. However, environmentalism has evolved into a religious faith with a well paid priesthood.

Funny, I always viewed it as a giant pyramid scheme.

 

[BaalsTears]

Funny, I always viewed it as a giant pyramid scheme.

Al Gore would agree with that conclusion.