Enlightenment Now: How Reason and Science in the 18th Century Made us Better

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This guy is the real deal. If you're reading Jordan Peterson's Chicken Soup For the Tortured White Guy, put it down and read something legitimately stimulating.


Harvard professor Steven Pinker talks about what drives human beings in 'Enlightenment Now'

Steven Pinker is a rarity, an academic intellectual whose specializations in evolutionary psychology and linguistics have translated into a career as a best-selling author of popular-science books.

His latest best-seller, "Enlightenment Now," argues that humans have it better than ever before: living longer, healthier and happier lives than at any time in human history. He discussed these trends - and the reasons behind them.

Q: In "Enlightenment Now," you lay out an optimistic view of where humans are as a species, even as we are surrounded by negativity.

A: "Enlightenment Now" is a book that documents human progress on many frontiers. People now live longer, healthier, richer, safer, happier and more interesting lives, and this may surprise people who get their picture of the world from the news. Media outlets typically report on things that go wrong and seldom on what goes right.

Q: You go beyond documenting this progress. You attempt to explain how it has occurred. What did you find?

A: I attribute this progress to the ideals of the Enlightenment, the family of ideas that emerged in the 18th century involving an emphasis on reason and science as opposed to authority, tradition, dogma and superstition. It's a movement that prioritized human well-being over other goals, such as the glory of the tribe or fate.

Q: People expect things to turn out well, and they are surprised - and, in turn, look for answers when things don't turn out well. You argue that this is a natural product of entropy and evolution. Can you explain that?

A: People often assume that the natural state of affairs is for everyone to be prosperous, equal and harmonious, and that any deviation from that perfect state is an outrage that has to be blamed on an evildoer.

I suggest that, because of the laws of the universe, we have no right to expect this scenario. Instead, the universe is largely indifferent to our well-being. The second law of thermodynamics, entropy, means that disorder increases over time. That's not because the universe has it in for us but because there are so many more ways for things to go wrong than for things to go right.

A second principle at play is evolution. We are products of a competitive process - natural selection - that does not select for harmony and happiness but for reproductive success.

Q: You argue that information is what allows humans to counter entropy and evolution in order to achieve progress.

A: Yes, the third principle I discuss is the fact that humans are information-processing animals. We have big brains, and we can think up solutions to problems, share them via language and, bit by bit, fight back against entropy and evolution and achieve small improvements that accumulate over time.

Q: Why do you think a large book - 550 pages and dozens of charts - is needed to convince people that they are happy and prosperous if they are, in fact, happy and prosperous?

A: Because we are flooded with information that paints a very different picture. If your impression of the world comes from the news, then you would likely think that the world is getting worse, even as things are getting better.

The good developments don't make headlines.

Q: One of the distinctions you make in the book is the difference between a meaningful life and a happy life. Can you discuss that?

A: The distinction between living a meaningful and a happy life is one that goes back to Aristotle. Of course, there is a lot of overlap between the two: Generally, happier people lead more meaningful lives and vice versa, but they aren't perfectly correlated. When people have children, for example, their reported happiness levels go down, on average. But very few people regret having a child. In fact, a lot of people say it's the most meaningful thing they have done in their lives, and the same can be true for other accomplishments, such as writing a book or leading a campaign for political change. These things may prove frustrating, or there may be setbacks, but they are often the things that make life more worthwhile.

Q: You regularly show up on lists of the most influential intellectuals in the country. What does it mean to be a public intellectual?

A: I guess an intellectual is someone who works with ideas for a living. They write, speak, analyze data and think. I use the term broadly, not restricting it to university professors or newspaper columnists but educated people who take ideas seriously. I guess people who are identified as public intellectuals are those who try to make a living writing, speaking and thinking about ideas.

Q: You are an academic, but you are also known for the clarity of your writing, a quality often lacking in academic circles. How do you achieve that?

A: Indeed, my previous book was "The Sense of Style," which was a writing style manual rooted in cognitive science and linguistics. I'm fortunate in that I purposefully strive to write clearly while also having language as my primary research area. I can apply some of what I know about how language works to the task of explaining how things work, and that's what I try to do.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/en...r-Steven-Pinker-talks-about-what-12741835.php
 

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A second principle at play is evolution. We are products of a competitive process - natural selection - that does not select for harmony and happiness but for reproductive success.


I see, so does that mean we can stop blaming whitey for everything, because they are just better ?


:lol: :lol:
 

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Most people think the world is a better place today than in the past. Trumpites don't. Seniors don't. That's to be expected though.
 

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Yes the edge of total planetary extinction is a great place to be.
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they should be enlightening off that final nuclear blast any minute now...
 

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Q: You go beyond documenting this progress. You attempt to explain how it has occurred. What did you find?

A: I attribute this progress to the ideals of the Enlightenment, the family of ideas that emerged in the 18th century involving an emphasis on reason and science as opposed to authority, tradition, dogma and superstition. It's a movement that prioritized human well-being over other goals, such as the glory of the tribe or fate.

"I agree with people like Richard Dawkins that mankind felt the need for creation myths. Before we really began to understand disease and the weather and things like that, we sought false explanations for them. Now science has filled in some of the realm – not all – that religion used to fill. But the mystery and the beauty of the world is overwhelmingly amazing, and there's no scientific explanation of how it came about. To say that it was generated by random numbers, that does seem, you know, sort of an uncharitable view [laughs]. I think it makes sense to believe in God, but exactly what decision in your life you make differently because of it, I don't know." - Bill Gates a practicing Catholic
 

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This guy is the real deal. If you're reading Jordan Peterson's Chicken Soup For the Tortured White Guy, put it down and read something legitimately stimulating.
Uh huh. Have you actually read the book? I bet you didn't. If you did, you'd realize that Pinker contended that the left is partly to blame for anti-reason rhetoric and criticized groups such as postmodernists, de-growth environmentalists, and "social justice warriors" as being part of the problem.

So guess what f*cknards, according to Pinker YOU are part of the problem. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Yes the edge of total planetary extinction is a great place to be.
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they should be enlightening off that final nuclear blast any minute now...

Yeah, not having to worry about planetary extinction because you only lived to age 40 was a lot better than the way it is now.
 

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“I conceived the book when Donald Trump was a reality TV star,” Pinker said. “The concept of his being president would have been considered a joke in bad taste. It did require a bit of a rethink when he was elected, in that I underlined my pre-existing assertions that progress is not an inexorable force that carries us ever higher and that if we depart from the principles of the Enlightenment, progress can be threatened. Many aspects of Trump’s program do that, starting with something as important as vaccines, where his position threatens one of the greatest public-health breakthroughs in human history.”

McGillis: Steven Pinker dares to argue the bright side in dark times | Montreal Gazette
 

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=mentalfloss;2601468]This guy is the real deal. If you're reading Jordan Peterson's Chicken Soup For the Tortured White Guy, put it down and read something legitimately stimulating.


Harvard professor Steven Pinker talks about what drives human beings in 'Enlightenment Now'

Steven Pinker is a rarity, an academic intellectual whose specializations in evolutionary psychology and linguistics have translated into a career as a best-selling author of popular-science books.

His latest best-seller, "Enlightenment Now," argues that humans have it better than ever before: living longer, healthier and happier lives than at any time in human history. He discussed these trends - and the reasons behind them."

Mr Pinker is full of shjt, this planet is littered with ruins of many thousands of years previous construction far in excess of todays technical capabilities. The authors grasp of history is infantile conformist agitprop and as such there is no doubt why you reccommend
it,s consumption. The same type of upbeat misinformation is quite common in past uncertain climatic social conditions when it is common for the ignorant masses, like you, to grasp at any offered straw. What we are routinely smothered with historically is a mythical past of virtually unbroken advancement of mankind through evolution which is clearly not the case while the engineering proof of past advancements exceeding the present times accomplishments are abundantly available for study but kept from the general publics attention by virtualy every educational system . Human history is punctuated by regular catastrophic events. You might realize this in the coming decades.


“I conceived the book when Donald Trump was a reality TV star,” Pinker said. “The concept of his being president would have been considered a joke in bad taste. It did require a bit of a rethink when he was elected, in that I underlined my pre-existing assertions that progress is not an inexorable force that carries us ever higher and that if we depart from the principles of the Enlightenment, progress can be threatened. Many aspects of Trump’s program do that, starting with something as important as vaccines, where his position threatens one of the greatest public-health breakthroughs in human history.”

McGillis: Steven Pinker dares to argue the bright side in dark times | Montreal Gazette

Vaccination kills, vaccination steralizes, vaccination stupifys, vaccination murders and maims for profit.
 
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Cleaning the sh!t out of the ditches and water supplies and washing one's hands and food saves lives though.

Which is, unlike vaccination, something doctors don't do enough of.

The Doctor Who Introduced the Virtues of Hand Washing Died of an Infection
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...irtues-hand-washing-died-infection-180953901/

That is AFTER he was run out of the profession by the other MURDEROUS doctors who didn't wash their hands and were killing MOST of their pregnant patients by the resulting infections, and was put in an insane asylum, and then, a couple weeks later, was beaten to the verge of death.

What an MF type fakenews gig that was eh?
 
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“There are problems associated with inequality, in particular the outsized political influence of the wealthy — the fact that, especially in the United States, politicians can be bought too easily. But I think our assessment of whether we’ve made progress shouldn’t look at inequality itself, but at poverty, where we’ve made great strides. An irony is that it’s often the people on the left and liberal side of the spectrum who are afraid to acknowledge that, because it would seem to undermine efforts toward further anti-poverty programs.”

Steven Pinker dares to argue the bright side in dark times | Montreal Gazette
 

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“I conceived the book when Donald Trump was a reality TV star,” Pinker said. “The concept of his being president would have been considered a joke in bad taste. It did require a bit of a rethink when he was elected, in that I underlined my pre-existing assertions that progress is not an inexorable force that carries us ever higher and that if we depart from the principles of the Enlightenment, progress can be threatened. Many aspects of Trump’s program do that, starting with something as important as vaccines, where his position threatens one of the greatest public-health breakthroughs in human history.”

McGillis: Steven Pinker dares to argue the bright side in dark times | Montreal Gazette
its still considered a bad joke.
 

mentalfloss

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I dunno.

It's starting to become a good joke now.

Seems like a shitty US leader is just what the rest of us needed :lol:
 

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This guy is the real deal. If you're reading Jordan Peterson's Chicken Soup For the Tortured White Guy, put it down and read something legitimately stimulating.


Harvard professor Steven Pinker talks about what drives human beings in 'Enlightenment Now'

Steven Pinker is a rarity, an academic intellectual whose specializations in evolutionary psychology and linguistics have translated into a career as a best-selling author of popular-science books.

His latest best-seller, "Enlightenment Now," argues that humans have it better than ever before: living longer, healthier and happier lives than at any time in human history. He discussed these trends - and the reasons behind them.

Q: In "Enlightenment Now," you lay out an optimistic view of where humans are as a species, even as we are surrounded by negativity.

A: "Enlightenment Now" is a book that documents human progress on many frontiers. People now live longer, healthier, richer, safer, happier and more interesting lives, and this may surprise people who get their picture of the world from the news. Media outlets typically report on things that go wrong and seldom on what goes right.

Q: You go beyond documenting this progress. You attempt to explain how it has occurred. What did you find?

A: I attribute this progress to the ideals of the Enlightenment, the family of ideas that emerged in the 18th century involving an emphasis on reason and science as opposed to authority, tradition, dogma and superstition. It's a movement that prioritized human well-being over other goals, such as the glory of the tribe or fate.

Q: People expect things to turn out well, and they are surprised - and, in turn, look for answers when things don't turn out well. You argue that this is a natural product of entropy and evolution. Can you explain that?

A: People often assume that the natural state of affairs is for everyone to be prosperous, equal and harmonious, and that any deviation from that perfect state is an outrage that has to be blamed on an evildoer.

I suggest that, because of the laws of the universe, we have no right to expect this scenario. Instead, the universe is largely indifferent to our well-being. The second law of thermodynamics, entropy, means that disorder increases over time. That's not because the universe has it in for us but because there are so many more ways for things to go wrong than for things to go right.

A second principle at play is evolution. We are products of a competitive process - natural selection - that does not select for harmony and happiness but for reproductive success.

Q: You argue that information is what allows humans to counter entropy and evolution in order to achieve progress.

A: Yes, the third principle I discuss is the fact that humans are information-processing animals. We have big brains, and we can think up solutions to problems, share them via language and, bit by bit, fight back against entropy and evolution and achieve small improvements that accumulate over time.

Q: Why do you think a large book - 550 pages and dozens of charts - is needed to convince people that they are happy and prosperous if they are, in fact, happy and prosperous?

A: Because we are flooded with information that paints a very different picture. If your impression of the world comes from the news, then you would likely think that the world is getting worse, even as things are getting better.

The good developments don't make headlines.

Q: One of the distinctions you make in the book is the difference between a meaningful life and a happy life. Can you discuss that?

A: The distinction between living a meaningful and a happy life is one that goes back to Aristotle. Of course, there is a lot of overlap between the two: Generally, happier people lead more meaningful lives and vice versa, but they aren't perfectly correlated. When people have children, for example, their reported happiness levels go down, on average. But very few people regret having a child. In fact, a lot of people say it's the most meaningful thing they have done in their lives, and the same can be true for other accomplishments, such as writing a book or leading a campaign for political change. These things may prove frustrating, or there may be setbacks, but they are often the things that make life more worthwhile.

Q: You regularly show up on lists of the most influential intellectuals in the country. What does it mean to be a public intellectual?

A: I guess an intellectual is someone who works with ideas for a living. They write, speak, analyze data and think. I use the term broadly, not restricting it to university professors or newspaper columnists but educated people who take ideas seriously. I guess people who are identified as public intellectuals are those who try to make a living writing, speaking and thinking about ideas.

Q: You are an academic, but you are also known for the clarity of your writing, a quality often lacking in academic circles. How do you achieve that?

A: Indeed, my previous book was "The Sense of Style," which was a writing style manual rooted in cognitive science and linguistics. I'm fortunate in that I purposefully strive to write clearly while also having language as my primary research area. I can apply some of what I know about how language works to the task of explaining how things work, and that's what I try to do.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/en...r-Steven-Pinker-talks-about-what-12741835.php
Being over the mental age of 10 years, I'll take Peterson any time.
 

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Pinker rules. Peterson droools.


Steven Pinker addresses human progress, free speech to ASU audiences

Pinker was in town to deliver the final public talk in the School of Civic and Economic Thought and Leadership’s “Free Speech and Intellectual Diversity in Higher Education and American Society” 2017–2018 series, which he gave later Wednesday evening at Old Main’s Carson Ballroom.

Over the course of the academic year, the series featured such speakers as fellow social psychologist Jonathan Haidt, Middlebury College Professor of international politics and economics Allison Stanger and University of Chicago law Professor Geoffrey Stone, who all spoke on the urgent need to embrace free speech and diverse thought on college campuses and in society in general.

The first question lobbed at Pinker during the afternoon discussion was no softball — "What role do you feel religion plays in humanity’s future?" — and he held nothing back when he swung at it.

“I don’t think there’s a role for belief in a deity,” because there’s no evidence of one existing, he said.

The belief in gods, souls and spirits does nothing to enhance humanity, Pinker argued. Instead, holding out for an afterlife only serves to devalue our lives on Earth. And though he conceded that many religions nowadays have become more humanistic and social justice-oriented, the belief in a benevolent, omnipotent being can lead to inaction on issues like climate change (if the understanding is that said being would never let humans suffer as the Earth withers away) and dangerous misinterpretations of perceived sacred texts.

“If we want to make humans better off, we have to do it ourselves,” Pinker said. “Prayers aren’t going to do it. … That’s why I think humanism combined with science and reason is the most moral set of beliefs.”

https://asunow.asu.edu/20180404-solutions-asu-steven-pinker-free-speech-progress