End Aboriginal payments by gov'ts

petros

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The best situation of course would be that we are all "Canadians" with equal opportunity, responsibility and benefits. I'm not holding my breath for that to happen. :icon_smile:
You can have all the goodies they have if you flex your rights but that might take effort.
 

CDNBear

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I think aboriginals shouild no longer get any money from gov'ts. Most of their councils are not democratic and perpetuate their hardship.
You think wrong in a very broad and stereotypical way.

Aboriginals have traditional systems of governance that you would find in Asia or Africa. Isn't the Cdn army in Afhgan to promote democracy? I heard a Tory pol say such things on TV. Why are we paying for undemocratic regimes in Canada? Don't we believe in freedom, democracy, liberty and progress for all peoples in the world?
This statement only proves you know so very little about the whole of Native governance.
Treaties? Made in the 17th-19th centuries when non-white people were considered inferior. I say five to ten more years of payments and then, it's over. No money.
So in other words, you want to reap the benefits of those treaties, without living up to your part of the contract?

Go try that with your mortgage company.

Turn the reserves into municipailities where anyone can vote and the elected council governs.
Again, a statement that shows you really know so very little.

I would like to know where all the money they are getting from the casinos is going. The people who need it aren't getting it...
Rama is a wealthy reserve, poverty is nonexistent and the place looks great.

We need to end this , for CANADA and most important our children and for the future of the native population
There are 2 groups = Canadians and the natives , they want equal rights, yet they want special treatment they want money and more money and they blame everyone else for there people stealing there money
This has to stop and our generation is the one who will start the movement to
End Native Funding = E.N.F =Enough
why will my grand children need to pay for something that happened before there time , ?
whether it was 200 years ago or 20 years ago it was inevitable that someone was going to come here to build on this land
We’ve all seen refugees from a 3 world country with there families that are working 2 jobs and going to university and yet they are doing it
we are creating generations of welfare recipients (hence creating more problems)
free housing , no tax, free skidoos, free trucks , money from there bands for school
 
We are collecting new paper articles of racist comments from chiefs blaming the "white man " for there problems and anything else that pertains to your cause
Please email EndNativeFunding@yahoo.ca
if you want to join this isn’t a racist movement its a movement for the greater good of tomorrow of Canada and its people E.N.F is enough
we might be rough around the edges but we have a point so spread the word


Treaties became irrelevant once these so-called nations latch on to the public tit and refused to let go.


Another blanket statement that simply shows how little you know.

Provided by whom?
The government. You are capable of applying for funding for college, retraining and all sorts of things. You simply have to apply and show why you are eligible or a good candidate for it. Just like when a Native goes to the Council for funds for schooling or entrepreneurial ventures.

They wouldn't need it if the Gov released all the royalty money they are due. The land they were left with included mineral rights that belonged solely to them, not some scraps that they have been handed over the last few decades, every nickle before the Gov tax breaks for big oil kick in, that would also include royalties for water that is withheld from their land (water held back by dams and/or given to the oil companies)
Those payments would be 100's of times higher than what they receive now.
Please stop trying to help, we don't need people like you on our side. We have enough loons as it is.
 

stopnativefunds

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I might not know much about our history , maybe I am Neanderthal
and I don’t agree with what was done in the past with the aboriginals ,the past is the past ,
20 years ago or 200 years ago , settling to Canada was inevitable , if the Europeans never came it would have been someone else , we’d be technologically behind living in mud huts like with the Afghans bathing in the water they **** in ,
Who cares who came here , not all aboriginals are involved in this they don’t ask for anything , 20-% of them work just like you and me ,
All I’m saying is “Special treatment” “Special privileges” and money for complaining peevishly , is a broken record enough is enough , “equal rights” This is not the answer, this created a monster , a never ending cycle and generations of welfare recipients , we are teaching them to be moochers , not to work and that we own them the world , they need to get off the governments tit and stand on there own two feet , and move forward with the rest of society,
in 200 years aboriginals there will be hundreds of million in population mark maybe even more , with this same never ending cycle we have to start weaning them off now
, we might as well just burn our money Or end this cycle , and put money where its needed making Canada a better safer, cleaner place to live, more schools better roads , more police stations, ambulances , etc this could be our generation that ends this
 

Cliffy

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I don't think you are a Neanderthal, you just think like someone who is emotionally upset by something he has no understanding of. Go live on a reservation for a year and come back here and tell us how privileged they are. Read the history not just the biased crap we are fed by the media and schools but listen to their stories. Try and walk a mile in their moccasins before you pass judgment on a people you know nothing about.
 

damngrumpy

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This is what happens when laws are made stating the benefits will go on forever as long
as the sun shines etc. In fact it was done to ease the conscience of those who were
stealing the land out from under those who owned it. Don't be too quick to make such a
series of statements our society is seeing a wave of immigration not seen in centuries and
one day many of us may face the same fate, yes I jest.
 

petros

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Try and walk a mile in their moccasins before you pass judgment on a people you know nothing about.
When you are a mile away and have their moccasins you can say whatever the hell you want.
 

The Old Medic

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In most cases, treaties were forced on the Native peoples. In many cases, the colonists identified someone that they appointed as the leader of the tribe or band (someone that they could control) and had them sign a treaty without the tribe even knowing what was being done.

How about paying those tribes for the millions of acres that the governments of Great Britain and Canada stole from them? How about paying for the tens of thousands of Natives slaughtered by disease, war, murder, etc. that the "White Man" imposed on them?

Or in my own familys case, how about paying for the 200 acres of farmland, the house, the furniture, the animals (13 cows, 60 sheep, 5 horses), the wagon, the plows, etc. that they were forced to leave behind because the government of Manitoba refused to honor the title to the land that they had farmed for over 50 years? The government refused to honor the title that had been given by the Hudson's Bay Company, because this was prime river front property, and no "Filthy Half-Breed should have property like that."

Or how about the cultural genocide practiced in the mandatory boarding schools? (And let's not even mention the rape of both girls and boys in those schools.)

In fact, most tribes and bands have democratic elections of tribal/band officials, and have had for many years. If you are going to post something silly like this, it would help if you actually knew something about the subject.