Elitism, anyone??

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Cliffy, as the Left is so fond of saying, George W. Bush was nothing but a puppet of Dick Cheney, you probably among those.

But at least Cheney was and is an AMERICAN.

Obama's strings are pulled by (as a former Hungarian,I am ashamed to say), by the worst piece of sub-human garbage, the Hungarian-born back-stabbing Jew, Gyorgy (george) Soros.

If Obama was anywhere near as smart as his acolytes believe him to be, he would realize that a back-stabber is always a back-stabber. If you sell your soul to a back-stabber, like Obama, appearently did, don't be surprised when you get your inevitable comeuppance. You know, like in 2012.

Obama being born in Hawaii is just as much an American as Cheney with six times the smarts and wisdom and probably a better shot. :lol:
 

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JLM, not surprisingly, you missed the point: I have not made a reference of Cheney, or Obama not being American.

What I said - perhaps with not enough clarity - that while the Left claimss that Bush was a dunce whose strings were pulled by Cheney - at least, Cheney is, was and always will be an American.

The same can not be said for the string-puller of far bigger dunce than GWB, namely Barack Hussain Obama, the puppet of Hungarian-born back-stabbing Jew, Gyorgy (George) Soros.
 

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and probably a better shot. :lol:

Now that's a good one
 

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Cliffy, you have the unmitigated gall to refer to people on your right as "looking down their noses" for their view? Have you looked at your own condescending, insulting , patronizing and offensive post about anyone and everyone who is not an atheist? Talk about looking down your nose!! Talk about elitist!!

So anybody who doesn't agree with your specific point of view..... so anybody who doesn't agree with Fox News or all those republican supporting wing nuts who have their own shows egging people on, saying that if talking and political debate doesn't work to get what you want, go grab your gun because it's in the constitution...... suddenly they're..... we're all Elitists?

Great way to try and win an argument...... "I and everybody who agrees with my view are right and if you don't like it, you're elitist."

You mock, insult, finger point, generalize and slam anything any democrat or supporter of the democrats as if they're total idiots, unpatriotic, and hypocrites....... yet when anybody points out your own hypocrisy in doing exactly what you complain they're doing..... suddenly those people are elitist?

BTW, have you ever been slammed by a pro-wrestler?
It doesn't hurt, considering the ring has a large spring to absorb shock.

Maybe you should talk to the late Andy Kaufmann about the phoniness of pro-wrestling.
You're suggesting to perform some sort of séance in order to talk to a dead guy about Men's Soap Opera and how fake it is?

Maybe rather then try and perform the impossible, how about you ask a few existing wrestlers who've gone on the record as stating matches are pre-determined and they schedule out their matches and how they're going to fight one another prior to entering the ring.

Injuries and hard hits from time to time are indeed real, but overall besides the random injury from jumping off a chair into a steel step, it is fake.

It would also help to look in the mirror before you accuse anyone else of being phony and elitist.
Pot meet kettle.
 

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Fixed it for you:

"You mock, insult, finger point, generalize and slam anything any Republican/conservative or supporter of the Republicans/conservatives as if they're total idiots, unpatriotic, and hypocrites....... yet when anybody points out your own hypocrisy in doing exactly what you complain they're doing..... suddenly those people are elitist?"

It is you and your ilk that demean and denigrate those who oppose your views as "rednecks", "extremists", "Bible-thumpers", "uneducated", "stupid", "hillbillies" and many many more far worse.

Can you show me just ONE post where those adjectives were used by a conservative to describe a liberal?

Can you tell me why you and your ilk are ashamed of being called liberals?
 

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Cliffy, rest assured I love you every bit as much as you love me.

And talking about elitist: You and your ilk denigrated the Masters degree of George W. Bush, saying - in typical fashion - that it was bought and paid for by Daddy, while you fawn over the never-publicly-produced degrees (or for that matter birth certificate) of Barack Hussain Obama.

Man, you're still going on about that birth certificate BS?

Nobody but republicans who refuse to accept facts still believes that crap holds any relevance.

Face it.... the republicans screwed up for the last 8 years before Obama, everybody was sick and tired of Elitist Bush, and the Republican way of doing things (which failed miserably up until now) and nobody wanted to keep it going with McCain..... the people by majority voted out the Republicans......

..... and all you guys can do to fight back is to cling onto this farce argument of his Birth Certificate as if some technicality will allow the Reps to get back into power who created a party of tea baggers who promote hate, ignorance and violence to get what they want.

You complain about Obama being an Elitist, yet defend George Bush as if he wasn't either.

If Obama is Elitist, then Bush was Uber-Elitist...... he didn't give a damn about what the public wanted or needed, he'd dilly dally and read a book upside down and pick his bum while the WTC towers were falling..... he'd wait a week or so before sending any worthwhile aid and reconstruction to New Orleans while chaos ensued throughout the area with no functional police forces to maintain order, so detached from the real world and what US citizens were going through, then lands on the ground and claims everybody's doing a great job in fixing things..... yet New Orleans still hasn't been fully restored even today.

Bush continually swayed to big corps and businesses to get away with bloody murder so long as he got some kick backs and profit was flowing..... bend rules and regulations at the expense of public safety...... all the while smiling to the world as if he's doing something great for mankind.

While all this was going on and even when his popularity among the US people was lower then dog sh*t and people haven't seen such low ratings for a long time.... and while so many people protested and opposed so much of what he was planning to do..... he'd do it anyways regardless of what everybody else thought, because there were bigger people in the background filling his pockets with money.

And he still hasn't faced any legal processes for all the crimes he's committed over the last 8 years and probably never will because he's rich and untouchable by anybody........ he even had a couple of oil companies under his belt which he ran into the ground..... yet his daddy and his rich family were always there to help him out.

Yeah..... sure, Bush wasn't Elitist at all....... Obama's the epitome of what it means to be Elitist...... how silly of me.

Of course, since I don't agree with your view, I suppose now I'm Elitist......

Excuse me while I hop into my private helicopter and head off to Marble Mountain with all my rich chums, hang out in my private lodge and sip on some 1982 Mission Haut-Brion in our gold plated with emerald jewels goblets, while getting foot rubs from our naked servant ladies from Sweden. :roll:
 

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Praxius, the progressives/liberals/Democrats - under the "leadership of THe Annointed One - screwed up more in less than two years than the Republicans ever did in eight.

Correct me if I am wrong on Wednesday morning.

That is the response to the first paragraph of your post.

The rest is just too silly to bother with.
 

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I agrre, JLM! And THE most useless person with a plethora of undisclosed degrees is occupying the White House.

And. Cliffy, tell me honestly: would Obama be able to string two coherent sentences without reading words on the teleprompter, written by somebody else?

At least he can read the teleprompter properly and doesn't invent words up on the spot.
 

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JLM, not surprisingly, you missed the point: I have not made a reference of Cheney, or Obama not being American.

What I said - perhaps with not enough clarity - that while the Left claimss that Bush was a dunce whose strings were pulled by Cheney - at least, Cheney is, was and always will be an American.

The same can not be said for the string-puller of far bigger dunce than GWB, namely Barack Hussain Obama, the puppet of Hungarian-born back-stabbing Jew, Gyorgy (George) Soros.

Obama is just as much American as is Cheney. I wonder why you include Obama's middle name as 99% of us know who Barack Obama is. A little prejudiced are we? :smile:
 

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JLM, not surprisingly, you missed the point: I have not made a reference of Cheney, or Obama not being American.

What I said - perhaps with not enough clarity - that while the Left claimss that Bush was a dunce whose strings were pulled by Cheney - at least, Cheney is, was and always will be an American.

If that's all he had going for him and if that's all that is needed for your support, then it's a good thing you're not in politics.

Somebody can be an American and still be an idiot who ends up doing more harm then good...... just look at Palin and how well she worked out for McCain.

The same can not be said for the string-puller of far bigger dunce than GWB, namely Barack Hussain Obama, the puppet of Hungarian-born back-stabbing Jew, Gyorgy (George) Soros.

By all means, supply sources for your claims...... but I like how you still try and use Obama's middle name as some dirty word, as if he's somehow related to Saddam.... or is somehow a part of Al'Q...... or is Muslim as if it's a bad thing.

But if it was me, I'd rather have Obama as a leader, being possibly tied to some guy in Hungry.... then have Bush as a leader, who's own family had direct and very close ties to the Nazi party during WWII.

Fixed it for you:

"You mock, insult, finger point, generalize and slam anything any Republican/conservative or supporter of the Republicans/conservatives as if they're total idiots, unpatriotic, and hypocrites....... yet when anybody points out your own hypocrisy in doing exactly what you complain they're doing..... suddenly those people are elitist?"

Considering this topic began and is continuing with US politics and US politicians, there's no need to toss in Conservatives, thus no fixing is required.

It is you and your ilk that demean and denigrate those who oppose your views as "rednecks", "extremists", "Bible-thumpers", "uneducated", "stupid", "hillbillies" and many many more far worse.

Funny, I don't remember using any of those words in this thread...... secondly, wasn't it you who created this thread in the first place to start the same bickering, fear mongering propaganda in support of the Republicans?

For the most part, the only time I see anybody using those words or otherwise trashing the crap out of Republicans is when you or someone like you starts up something like this thread to toss the first hand full of mud......

..... And then you cry foul when the same mud is flung back your way as if it wasn't deserved..... or somehow you bashing, insulting, generalizing and name calling in the exact same fashion isn't some how the exact same thing.

Pot meet kettle once again.

Can you show me just ONE post where those adjectives were used by a conservative to describe a liberal?

No, because you guys generally toss out words at Liberals such as "Hippies", "Socialists", "Communists", "Elitists", "Anti-American", "Anti-Canadian", "Cowards", and a pile more.

Both sides have their own long list of insults and names they use...... yet I imagine you'll still sit there acting like your sh*t don't stink.

Can you tell me why you and your ilk are ashamed of being called liberals?

Ah, there you go with the generalizations again...... I don't support the "Liberals" as in the party in Canada's government, nor do I classify myself as a Liberal, nor am I fond of either the Republicans or the Democrats in the US, but do feel the Democrats are the lesser of two evils. I'm not ashamed of being called a Liberal, simply because I'm not a Liberal...... nor am I Conservative.

Sorry to say, but not everybody fits in a nice little black & white category for your simple way of looking at things.

But then I suppose since I don't look at things as Black and White, that makes me an Elitist.
 

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Obama is just as much American as is Cheney. I wonder why you include Obama's middle name as 99% of us know who Barack Obama is. A little prejudiced are we? :smile:

I won't pretend to speak for anyone else....but...if I was doing it, it would be for the same reason that some, when refering to tea party member call them "Teabaggers"
Agravate the other side???? It seems to work....Non?;-)
 

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Praxius Ah said:
Funny eh, how one party does everything right, while the other does everything wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!! Personally I don't think any of the parties have much advantage over the others. :smile:
 

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Praxius, the progressives/liberals/Democrats - under the "leadership of THe Annointed One - screwed up more in less than two years than the Republicans ever did in eight.

You obviously just got a TV and the internet back in 2008 when you registered here in these forums and missed a lot.

I'd suggest you go read up on some of your recent history of US politics and sociology.

Correct me if I am wrong on Wednesday morning.

That is the response to the first paragraph of your post.

Chances are the votes will tell an interesting story, and I'm not about to act as if the Democrats don't have anything to worry about..... Obama made a bunch of promises and very little has changed since he took office...... but things haven't continued to get worse compared to the direction Bush was taking the country.

And with all the Tea Bagger propaganda and fear mongering, this won't be a victory for either the Democrats or Republicans..... this will just be a clear example of just how divided and disillusioned the US people are....... and perhaps an example of just how gullible too.

The rest is just too silly to bother with.

And that's why your responses and comments always seem ignorant..... you read what you want and ignore everything else that might prove you wrong...... and you wonder why people label Republicans/Conservatives with certain stereo-types...... it's because of things like the above.

You'll dish out your own venom, your own insults and your own propaganda as if you're doing everybody some sort of service..... and then if you don't like what someone has to say back, you ignore it and walk away....... yet complain when the same is done to you, ie: people ignore, mock or make fun of what you have to say and then walk away.

I don't suppose you noticed so far that very few in here have agreed with your position?

Funny eh, how one party does everything right, while the other does everything wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!! Personally I don't think any of the parties have much advantage over the others. :smile:

Nope, neither have an advantage.... one made promises and did the opposite of those promises, and the other made huge revolutionary promises and failed to meet those promises...... the Democrats are going to loose a bit, but the Republicans aren't going to win by leaps and bounds either...... and chances are, due to all the confusion, propaganda, fear mongering and divisions going on in the US right now, I'd strongly suspect the US people are so disillusioned right now that they're going to do what we did here in Canada........

Minorities so that neither side has absolute control.

^ It's not going to solve everything and chances are, people will become just as frustrated as we are in Canada of our Minorities....... but at least neither party will have a monopoly and be forced to work together to get things done.

..... However, with our own government as an example, I doubt any work will get done, in fact less work then what's being done now will get done down there and the divisions will only get worse.

I don't see this as a Republican or Democrat win or loss....... I see all of this as a Loss to the US Public.
 

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It wasn't meant to be, TenPenny.

This thread is about ELITISM, and the utter contempt this jerk displays toward anyone who has less money than he has (that, by the way includes you, unless you are not telling us something) is a perfect example of that.
 

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It wasn't meant to be, TenPenny.

This thread is about ELITISM, and the utter contempt this jerk displays toward anyone who has less money than he has (that, by the way includes you, unless you are not telling us something) is a perfect example of that.


I live my own life, I don't worry about how much money other people have.

I'm not the jealous, insecure type.