Electric shock: A new study found that EVs were more expensive to fuel than gas-powered cars at the end of 2022

The_Foxer

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I think the study might be skewed for one major reason. How many rent an apt unit compared to owning their home? That's going to be the big decider. I don't anticipate many landlords going through the expense of making sure their tenants all have access to chargers once the EV mandate comes into effect, especially in already existing buildings. And if they do, well I can see people's rents getting jacked up even if they don't drive.
It's a valid point, although most rentals these days are actually in condo buildings. And condo owners are looking at this hard and many are already taking the plunge. Some are installing a few fast charges and charging, others are allowing owners to instal their own in their parking stalls with varous conditions. There are specialty electrical firms who just deal with this kind of thing and audit buildings for capacity and help them set up.

But - one thing thats clear is that almost no building has capacity to provide for everyone. At least not with any speed.

So ... who's going to pay for THAT infrastructure. Thats a lot of money. That's a lot of money in the building and TO the building.

But you're right - the demographic is going to be a factor. And renters won't want to pay for the power grid upgrades needed to provide for an all-ev world.
 
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I know my operating costs to the penny. Id like to see similar from EVs that use commercial chargers.

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The fuel cost is BS. I never set it. It was $1.46L

Trip was Saskatoon to Regina light wind, -6° light wind, wet road surface, regular grade winter gas on snow tires and 2 passengers.
 

The_Foxer

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I know my operating costs to the penny. Id like to see similar from EVs that use commercial chargers.



The fuel cost is BS. I never set it. It was $1.46L
LOL - I THOUGH 'man that can't be right
Trip was Saskatoon to Regina light wind, -6° light wind, wet road surface, regular grade winter gas on snow tires and 2 passengers.
well what are the local commercial charges charging you? I'll work it out for you. It's not terribly hard math.
 

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It's a valid point, although most rentals these days are actually in condo buildings. And condo owners are looking at this hard and many are already taking the plunge. Some are installing a few fast charges and charging, others are allowing owners to instal their own in their parking stalls with varous conditions. There are specialty electrical firms who just deal with this kind of thing and audit buildings for capacity and help them set up.

But - one thing thats clear is that almost no building has capacity to provide for everyone. At least not with any speed.

So ... who's going to pay for THAT infrastructure. Thats a lot of money. That's a lot of money in the building and TO the building.

But you're right - the demographic is going to be a factor. And renters won't want to pay for the power grid upgrades needed to provide for an all-ev world.
Money is no object when you're Prince Groper pretending to save the world from Canada's horrible, awful, worse than China's emissions.
 

Ron in Regina

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Poor cold weather performance. EVs are powered by lithium batteries, which can often be fickle in Canada’s extreme winters. Battery life, range, and power distribution may not always be consistent.

Since EVs are relatively new, there’s no conclusive data on how long they last. However, most estimates claim that EV batteries should be able to last between eight and 15 years, depending on their usage. Canada’s extreme climate will likely contribute to batteries dying quicker.

EV’s have advantages too. This coming from a guy driving a truck made in 1992, so 33 years ago, & drives it as a daily driver.
 
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Hydrogen ICE and fuel cell electric.

Hydrogen concerted with ammonia makes it possible to tank up on stable Hydrogen.

Emissions are water and nitrogen.

 
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Poor cold weather performance. EVs are powered by lithium batteries, which can often be fickle in Canada’s extreme winters. Battery life, range, and power distribution may not always be consistent.

Since EVs are relatively new, there’s no conclusive data on how long they last. However, most estimates claim that EV batteries should be able to last between eight and 15 years, depending on their usage. Canada’s extreme climate will likely contribute to batteries dying quicker.

EV’s have advantages too. This coming from a guy driving a truck made in 1992, so 33 years ago, & drives it as a daily driver.
Are these batteries bi-polar? Is that why they need the lithium?
 

Taxslave2

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Hydrogen ICE and fuel cell electric.

Hydrogen concerted with ammonia makes it possible to tank up on stable Hydrogen.

Emissions are water and nitrogen.

TurdOWE hates nitrogen. At least if it helps grow crops.