Efficient charities

Liberalman

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Not all the money that is donated to charities for specific disasters are getting there.

It’s been all over the news and in-depth news investigations have proven it.

Charities put money aside for salaries and office expenses then local, national and international concerns so they can sustain themselves for the long run.

Charities know that organizations in other countries are donating so they keep the lion share and send a small percentage.

Don’t forget the other world governments are donating as well.

It’s just better to get a group together and send physical items that the people need to the to the countries where it is needed then you know people will get it.

If you give it to charities here most of those items will never make it.

For those that want the tax deduction then money has to be paid and whoever gets the money they will be helped.
 

GreenFish66

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Metro - Recession exacerbates poverty among young men - Young(-Middle age )men lookin' for work...It seems like nowadays more and more people are getting more and more human rights ..Leaving Young/Middle age men out in the cold ...
Even charities, to a point, are as reluctant to help this group as these proud men are to ask for it..I believe the term is " Systematic Discrimination..." ...

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All Being Equal , Family comes First , Right?
 
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JLM

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Personally, the poorest Canadian is rich compared to many in the world......World Vision gets my charity bucks.

They're very good, but I think the Sally Ann gives the biggest bang for the buck- fewer high paid execs.
 

foggy

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JLM, if anyone needs breakfast, dope or any other substance (legal or illegal) it is you, although, based on your post, above it would be totally useless.

You bash Liberalman. Then you bash me for disagreeing withn Liberalman.

No amount of bran could ever clear the sh*t out of your system.
Go gett'em Jake

I haven't the foggiest idea about this subject , except to say, good enough isn't good enough anymore.
 

Georgebr

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At the Salvation Army Territorial and Divisional Headquarters in Ontario the top 21 average incomes are over $145.000.00 per year, with the top getting $241.000.00 plus generous, cradle to grave, benefit plans - nearly as much as the Premier of Ontario.
In addition, there are many incomes over $100,000,00 which we call the "sunshine club". Most of these high income employees are Salvation Army officers or members.
It's outrageous that the Salvation Army pay themselves exorbitant sums of money designated to the poor and disadvantaged of society. This is an unconscionable misuse of charitable funds to line their own pockets and a serious breach of trust and betrayal. They are literally taking from the poor.
 

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At the Salvation Army Territorial and Divisional Headquarters in Ontario the top 21 average incomes are over $145.000.00 per year, with the top getting $241.000.00 plus generous, cradle to grave, benefit plans - nearly as much as the Premier of Ontario.
In addition, there are many incomes over $100,000,00 which we call the "sunshine club". Most of these high income employees are Salvation Army officers or members.
It's outrageous that the Salvation Army pay themselves exorbitant sums of money designated to the poor and disadvantaged of society. This is an unconscionable misuse of charitable funds to line their own pockets and a serious breach of trust and betrayal. They are literally taking from the poor.


Many "religious" charities support very well appointed office towers,private planes, private apartments and the like.

I personally support the Mennonites,well known for moving into disaster stricken areas, rebuilding ruined buildings, not demanding "lip service" to their religion...and then leaving the country,having done their job. No fancy overhead, no government contracts...just action.
 

Machjo

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Personally, the poorest Canadian is rich compared to many in the world......World Vision gets my charity bucks.

When it comes to secular charities, I generally give to UNICEF. We should bear in mind though that wealth is also relative. For instance, in a poorer country, you might be able to find yourself a cheap no-frills-no-gimmicks type of accommodation at reasonable price, whereas in a typical Canadian city there'd probably be all kinds of laws and bylaws saying that the rooms are too small, or it doesn't meet this or that standard, thus making any such accommodation far out of reach of the average poor person.

Also, in a poorer country, since most are poor, the cities are built accordingly with quality walking and cycling patshs, public transport, etc., whereas in a wealthier city is likely to have more highways and suburban homes far from work.

From that standpoint, ironically enough, recession can sometimes be a good thing for an economy in that, whereas previously the poor were a small minority of the population and therefore the local economy and even urban infrastructure develop accordingly, in a recession it's more likely that the development of the city etc will develop more in favour of the poor, such as more cycling paths rather than highways and such as an example.

But overall I don't think you can easily compare sometone earning 20.000 CAD/year in a city with an average income of 100.00 CAD/year to someone earning 200.00 CAD per year in a city where the average income is 400.00 CAD per year. In one case, he's living in a city developed around a lifestyle 5 times his level, compared to the second example where he's living in a community developed for an income only twice his level.
 

JLM

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When it comes to secular charities, I generally give to UNICEF. We should bear in mind though that wealth is also relative. For instance, in a poorer country, you might be able to find yourself a cheap no-frills-no-gimmicks type of accommodation at reasonable price, whereas in a typical Canadian city there'd probably be all kinds of laws and bylaws saying that the rooms are too small, or it doesn't meet this or that standard, thus making any such accommodation far out of reach of the average poor person.

Also, in a poorer country, since most are poor, the cities are built accordingly with quality walking and cycling patshs, public transport, etc., whereas in a wealthier city is likely to have more highways and suburban homes far from work.

From that standpoint, ironically enough, recession can sometimes be a good thing for an economy in that, whereas previously the poor were a small minority of the population and therefore the local economy and even urban infrastructure develop accordingly, in a recession it's more likely that the development of the city etc will develop more in favour of the poor, such as more cycling paths rather than highways and such as an example.

But overall I don't think you can easily compare sometone earning 20.000 CAD/year in a city with an average income of 100.00 CAD/year to someone earning 200.00 CAD per year in a city where the average income is 400.00 CAD per year. In one case, he's living in a city developed around a lifestyle 5 times his level, compared to the second example where he's living in a community developed for an income only twice his level.

When donating to charities, I think there should be two main considerations, first which one will reduce the most suffering and two which one receives the most directly to the charity. One I recently contributed to is A.L.S. , I'm not sure of the efficiency of the charity as it does affect a small minority of the population, but this is a cruel relentless disease for those dying from it, and I think if more was donated to this charity, it would be more efficient and most important lead to a cure or at the very least improve the condition.
 

Machjo

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When donating to charities, I think there should be two main considerations, first which one will reduce the most suffering and two which one receives the most directly to the charity. One I recently contributed to is A.L.S. , I'm not sure of the efficiency of the charity as it does affect a small minority of the population, but this is a cruel relentless disease for those dying from it, and I think if more was donated to this charity, it would be more efficient and most important lead to a cure or at the very least improve the condition.

Ironically enough, the fact that I've never heard of ALS is a good thing suggesting that it doesn't waste its money on advertising. Of course that alone is not a reason to give to ALS, but it's a plus.
 

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Timely topic as I just received a package in the mail from the Heart and Stroke foundation. It consists of 7 large Christmas cards, a sheet of gift stickers, a small bag for gifts and another sheet with a ball point pen and yet more stickers for envelopes.

My first thought was how much this cost the foundation and then, how many of these packages were sent out to Canadians.
 

JLM

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Timely topic as I just received a package in the mail from the Heart and Stroke foundation. It consists of 7 large Christmas cards, a sheet of gift stickers, a small bag for gifts and another sheet with a ball point pen and yet more stickers for envelopes.

My first thought was how much this cost the foundation and then, how many of these packages were sent out to Canadians.

Not to worry Mowich, big outfits like Bic possibly donate these things to charities by the Bushel, just to get a tax write off. :smile:
 

JLM

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Donate your time locally intead of your money to a national org.

Both are valuable, there are definitely people suffering in our own communities, but I like to contribute 25% to children in 3rd world countries, who needs are even more urgent than our own. Many of them are within a day or two of starvation.
 

Chev

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Ironically enough, the fact that I've never heard of ALS is a good thing suggesting that it doesn't waste its money on advertising. Of course that alone is not a reason to give to ALS, but it's a plus.
Machjo, ALS , Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (also known as Lou Gehrig's disease) is a fatal neurodegenerative disease. People living with the disease become progressively paralyzed due to degeneration of the upper and lower motor neurons in the brain and spinal cord. Eighty per cent of people with ALS die within two to five years of diagnosis– unable to breathe or swallow. Ten per cent of those affected may live for 10 years or longer.
 

JLM

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Machjo, ALS , Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (also known as Lou Gehrig's disease) is a fatal neurodegenerative disease. People living with the disease become progressively paralyzed due to degeneration of the upper and lower motor neurons in the brain and spinal cord. Eighty per cent of people with ALS die within two to five years of diagnosis– unable to breathe or swallow. Ten per cent of those affected may live for 10 years or longer.

My cousin aged 74 died of it on Aug. 19 less than a year after being diagnosed.