EBOLAWATCH: 5000 false claims last week. 0 new cases.

Sal

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I would start to be concerned if started to reach 100,000 not 3 people.

This is another one of those stories where people get caught up in the face value story when the numbers paint a much less grim picture.

it's not the numbers, it's the reaction...they didn't know what to do...and if you are a front line worker be sure you wouldn't feel so cavalier. How would you feel if your loved one was asked to nurse someone without the protective gear and to wrap tape around your neck to protect it from getting splashed with body fluids.

then a doctor comes along to exam him and he wears a hazmat suit...not cool
 

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hmmmmmm, maybe...I thought they were smaller than a turnip and had a red leaf attached

guess neither of us is going to be eating one any time soon (I can live with that)


Yams and Sweet Taters is different Sweet taters is shaped like the musical instrument, and delicious. Yams are smaller, purple coloured, and flat tasting.

Spoke as one who has raised both, and stopped with the yams. yuck.

just sayin.
 

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What's disconcerting to me, and I just have a lay persons perspective, is that in at least two separate cases in the west the contagion was passed on to health care workers (one in Spain, one in Texas).

So here's the thing. Theoretically, they know what they're doing. There are risk mitigations in place, and we know they work. The PPE those nurses were wearing is no different than what the nurses wear when there is an outbreak in Uganda, which has dealt successfully with multiple outbreaks of ebola. Our healthcare system is so much better, that it's rare when our healthcare workers have to practice these procedures. I have no idea how often they do training on this stuff. I know at work, we train once a quarter. Though we also use higher levels of biosecurity than are needed for health because we're dealing with pathogens every day, not human pathogens, but pathogens that pose a high risk to the environment.

It would be far better if the nurses were wearing what laboratory researchers wear when they deal with this, but the thing is they don't have to. The training ultimately falls to the line management in those hospitals, that's due diligence. Now the CDC has to step in because it's clear that protocols were either inadequate -unlikely given that they work in Uganda and there is no evidence of the pathogenicity of ebola changing- or they weren't being followed properly.

That said, a few cases will be handled with far more resources than what was available at the beginning of the African outbreak.
 

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it's not the numbers, it's the reaction...they didn't know what to do...and if you are a front line worker be sure you wouldn't feel so cavalier. How would you feel if your loved one was asked to nurse someone without the protective gear and to wrap tape around your neck to protect it from getting splashed with body fluids.

then a doctor comes along to exam him and he wears a hazmat suit...not cool

I don't usually concern myself with things that have a very low probability of happening to me or are very remote in affecting people in general.

Of course I do hope that these situations resolve themselves, but I don't need to hear about it to know I would be empathetic.

Like, does it really matter if there is an isolated case of murder, just because that particular murder is uniquely gruesome in some way?

In most cases, it doesn't.
 

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Dear TV News: This Is How You Report on Suspected Ebola Cases

There is no Ebola outbreak in the U.S., but we're seeing a predictable media frenzy to report one anyway. After all, the virus isn't easy to catch—it requires direct contact with a symptomatic patient's bodily fluids.

But there's no shortage of media speculation over suspected new cases, which is helping to feed the hysteria. Usually, this means a person with "Ebola-like symptoms," which look a lot like the flu, is being monitored by doctors until they can rule out the virus. There have been reports about a Yale University student who returned from Liberia and fell ill shortly after; one person in Los Angeles; three in Virginia; another in New York. None of these patients actually have Ebola. Every single case has turned up negative—except, of course, for the two confirmed cases of nurses who had direct contact with an Ebola patient at his most contagious. Here is one example of an (incorrect) chyron in a report about a suspected case in Washington, D.C.:

Fortunately, the Associated Press is working to avoid enabling panic. It has issued new guidelines on reporting Ebola in a thoughtful, responsible manner:

We’re increasingly hearing reports of “suspected” cases of Ebola in the United States and Europe. The AP has exercised caution in reporting these cases and will continue to do so.

Most of these suspected cases turn out to be negative. Our bureaus monitor them, but we have not been moving stories or imagery simply because a doctor suspects Ebola and routine precautions are taken while the patient is tested. To report such a case, we look for a solid source saying Ebola is suspected and some sense the case has caused serious disruption or reaction. Are buildings being closed and substantial numbers of people being evacuated or isolated? Is a plane being diverted? Is the suspected case closely related to another, confirmed Ebola case?


When we do report a suspected case, we will seek to keep our stories brief and in perspective.

Hopefully other news organizations will take this advice.

AP Offers Good Guidance On Reporting Ebola Cases | New Republic
 

CDNBear

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I don't usually concern myself with things that have a very low probability of happening to me or are very remote in affecting people in general.
They're only remote because we have safeguards and systems. Discussion and preparedness is what keeps them healthy.

I can see how you would miss that.

Of course I do hope that these situations resolve themselves, but I don't need to hear about it to know I would be empathetic.
How can you feel empathetic, if you don't hear about it?

Like, does it really matter if there is an isolated case of murder, just because that particular murder is uniquely gruesome in some way?

In most cases, it doesn't.
I agree, unless the murder victim rises from the dead and kills someone, and so one. Or it has the potential to do so.

I'd ask if you got my drift, but you probably won't. The air is thn, where you've parked your nose.

Dear TV News: This Is How You Report on Suspected Ebola Cases

There is no Ebola outbreak in the U.S., but we're seeing a predictable media frenzy to report one anyway. After all, the virus isn't easy to catch—it requires direct contact with a symptomatic patient's bodily fluids.

But there's no shortage of media speculation over suspected new cases, which is helping to feed the hysteria. Usually, this means a person with "Ebola-like symptoms," which look a lot like the flu, is being monitored by doctors until they can rule out the virus. There have been reports about a Yale University student who returned from Liberia and fell ill shortly after; one person in Los Angeles; three in Virginia; another in New York. None of these patients actually have Ebola. Every single case has turned up negative—except, of course, for the two confirmed cases of nurses who had direct contact with an Ebola patient at his most contagious. Here is one example of an (incorrect) chyron in a report about a suspected case in Washington, D.C.:

Fortunately, the Associated Press is working to avoid enabling panic. It has issued new guidelines on reporting Ebola in a thoughtful, responsible manner:

We’re increasingly hearing reports of “suspected” cases of Ebola in the United States and Europe. The AP has exercised caution in reporting these cases and will continue to do so.

Most of these suspected cases turn out to be negative. Our bureaus monitor them, but we have not been moving stories or imagery simply because a doctor suspects Ebola and routine precautions are taken while the patient is tested. To report such a case, we look for a solid source saying Ebola is suspected and some sense the case has caused serious disruption or reaction. Are buildings being closed and substantial numbers of people being evacuated or isolated? Is a plane being diverted? Is the suspected case closely related to another, confirmed Ebola case?


When we do report a suspected case, we will seek to keep our stories brief and in perspective.

Hopefully other news organizations will take this advice.

AP Offers Good Guidance On Reporting Ebola Cases | New Republic
I know how much this must upset you, so I'll post it again...

News anchor delivers Ebola message everyone needs to hear | fox13now.com
 

CDNBear

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So then why in the hell do you continually post about it? Trying to reach a quota?
Oh c'mon, you met Flossy's type at parties and gatherings.

I've always loved being introduced to them. It usually takes me about a nanosecond to deduce they're a smug over educated twerp, with a superiority complex, and another 30 seconds to thoroughly embarrass them, so that they avoid me like the plague for the rest of the night. Choosing instead to mingle with like minded twerps, where mental masturbation is the evenings course of action.

While I on the other hand listen to the stories of others lives, and speak of worldly things and blowing sh*t up, to his hosts and other assorted party goers, no longer enthralled by his snarky witticisms and from bridge of his nose glances.
 

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Oh c'mon, you met Flossy's type at parties and gatherings.

I've always loved being introduced to them. It usually takes me about a nanosecond to deduce they're a smug over educated twerp, with a superiority complex, and another 30 seconds to thoroughly embarrass them, so that they avoid me like the plague for the rest of the night. Choosing instead to mingle with like minded twerps, where mental masturbation is the evenings course of action.

While I on the other hand listen to the stories of others lives, and speak of worldly things and blowing sh*t up, to his hosts and other assorted party goers, no longer enthralled by his snarky witticisms and from bridge of his nose glances.

Dude, what kind of parties are you going to? Lol.

You need to start mixing with a more fun bunch. :D
 

CDNBear

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Dude, what kind of parties are you going to? Lol.

You need to start mixing with a more fun bunch. :D
Oh I do, but there's that degrees of separation thing. Everybody knows somebody like Flossy or somebody dating somebody like him, and they'll inevitably be invited to a party.

I simply make the bast of it.
 

mentalfloss

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So then why in the hell do you continually post about it? Trying to reach a quota?

Special cases require special attention.

This is one where I feel it is worthwhile to educate others about the situation so that we have better gauge on what's really important moving forward.
 

CDNBear

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Special cases require special attention.

This is one where I feel it is worthwhile to educate others about the situation so that we have better gauge on what's really important moving forward.
Oh, you mean like Levant hurting JT's feelings and how you lost your mind.

Gotchya.