EBOLAWATCH: 5000 false claims last week. 0 new cases.
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I saw that video yesterday. Bang on, Shep Smith often is.
And on his point, I think there were 5 ebola themed threads on the front page when I logged in this morning.
hm,...well when I looked it up it said cabbage family...I think I've seen them in grocery stores but I have never purchased them. I like turnip but it is a lot of work.
ru·ta·ba·ga
ˈro͞odəˌbāɡə/
nounNORTH AMERICAN
1.
a large, round, yellow-fleshed root that is eaten as a vegetable.
2.
the European plant of the cabbage family that produces this root.
maybe they are the same thing... 8O
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I always thought one was American and the other was English. Rutabaga is what the Americans call turnip, isn't it?
Sort of like Yams and Sweet Potatoes, same thing.
It's worth talking about, although we really should condense the nonsense.I saw that video yesterday. Bang on, Shep Smith often is.
And on his point, I think there were 5 ebola themed threads on the front page when I logged in this morning.
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Africa
anybody that rejects this is an arsehole...everyone seems 'shocked' that FOX presented a common sense report on their own situation when it's the msm, nets and cnn that's babbling.
but Africa is the problem.
stay tuned.
...as shep (and everyone else reported), "she shouldn't have traveled"... followed by a lot of 'buts' by doctors and talking heads too...if you knew someone had been exposed to an ebola patient, would you want to sit beside her on a plane?...thought so. :lol:
just calm down tho'. ;-)
Dude, don't take me wrong. It's definitely a serious cause for concern. But packing the bags for the bomb shelter is still, and rightly should be, fodder for haha's.
Wash your hands, don't pick your nose or what not, and all should be just fine with your belly button.
Phew, that will be great news for the other three nations it's out of control in.
That one patient was of great concern to the thousands in the other three.
Well it's just really ironic. People are getting all up in arms about the response to ebola, while there are countless diseases spreading around the world right now, many of them will kill more than ebola. Some of them are preventable, or treatable. Nobody is screaming for airlines to shut down flights for those, though every year the seasonal influenza virus(es) as one example will spread predictably around the world. It's simply not possible to stop this from happening for all of these diseases without complete isolation of populations, and that would inevitably result in more deaths in the places where the disease first pops up, not to mention economic collapse.
The one mistake that I think everyone has made, was allowing the situation in West Africa to get as bad as it has become. The best prevention is to stop the outbreak at it's origins, not to clam up, do nothing, and then over react at home. I made this point earlier on in one of the ebola threads, that this outbreak is different because it has happened in countries where they have not had to deal with ebola before. It was new to them, and the governments there are probably less effective than your local high school's student council. In Liberia, they only had a few dozen doctors in the entire country when this started. They don't have the resources to track down all the people their cases have come into contact with. They don't have the resources to setup proper quarantines. They don't have the resources to communicate effectively and expeditiously. They don't have the existing relationships with the network of specialists in infectious diseases. There is a long list of things that stacked up against Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea.
To compare the US experience to the African one and then over-react, is not only dangerous, it's highly ignorant of the very different circumstances. I'm not sure how the leaders in the US could have done anything differently.
Fine by me, root veggies aren't my faves anyway. I like the green veggies the best.
I think the very issues you point out as to why it is spreading as it is in Africa: few doctors, no resources to track down potentially exposed individuals, no resources for proper quarantine procedures, no network of specialists, are the exact reason why seeing people exposed, infecting others and dying over here causes concern.
Because we are supposed to have all of those things in place.
And I know it's never a 100% guarantee, but right out of the gate we jump from Africa to Texas, then the nurse in Texas, etc. That some will scream and cry and panic doesn't mean we should not be discussing this chain of event or express any concern over what's happened, in my opinion.
Of course we should discuss the chain of events. That's what gives our medical professionals and systems the power to make sure we don't end up in the same boat.
My comments aren't meant to say we shouldn't talk about it, I'm talking about the people who are trying to conflate the African experience with that of the US. That's nuts, and like I said to Bear, that's dangerous. I haven't Googled this yet, but I have no doubts that if I did, I would find cases of people starting to treat African immigrants like leppers. Which funny enough wouldn't actually be so different from some of what happened in Africa. Ignorant villagers killed aid workers because they thought they were spreading the disease, or lying to them about it.
The fear, not so different, human nature. The risks? Very different if you live in America, or Sierra Leone.
There are always going to be sensationalists. And of course the risks are very different if you live in America, at least I would expect it to be so given the vast differences in the health care system between the two. What's disconcerting to me, and I just have a lay persons perspective, is that in at least two separate cases in the west the contagion was passed on to health care workers (one in Spain, one in Texas). That doesn't fill me with confidence that serious cases are being treated seriously by those who should know better, the front line workers.
It's not so much at the governmental level that I have concerns over here. It's more the sense of complacency we seem to have, the "I'm sure it's nothing" mentality, or even the budget cutbacks, overworked health care providers, etc. Even if it's strictly an issue of optics, the optics so far in the west on this are not good.
I actually spoke with someone who works at CDC yesterday and he basically reiterated what I thought already.
Which is that the media (and some governments) are sensationalizing the issue and that the main problem comes down to what kind of infrastructure is set up.
The statistical probability for someone in a developed country catching it is so low that it's not even a serious concern at this stage.
Which is that the media (and some governments) are sensationalizing the issue and that the main problem comes down to what kind of infrastructure is set up.
The statistical probability for someone in a developed country catching it is so low that it's not even a serious concern at this stage.
But I think we know that, the infrastructure we had in place didn't work and they were floundering and that is where the fear developed...
I would start to be concerned if started to reach 100,000 not 3 people.
This is another one of those stories where people get caught up in the face value story when the numbers paint a much less grim picture.
This is another one of those stories where people get caught up in the face value story when the numbers paint a much less grim picture.