Ebola is coming to kill us all but it's nothing to worry about

[Locutus]

Ten glaring Ebola contradictions told by government authorities who think we're all just stupid



NaturalNews) New York Governor Cuomo began yesterday's Ebola press conference by gently waving his hand at reporters and uttering, "These are not the droids you're looking for."

When that didn't work, he pulled out a pocket watch and let it swing back and forth like a pendulum, slowly repeating "Ebola is hard to catch. Ebola is hard to catch. You are feeling sleepy..."

As anybody with a brain has figured out by now, everything we're being told about Ebola by government authorities is a distortion, a contradiction or an outright lie. But what are the best lies and contradictions we've heard so far?

Here's the list:


#1) We are wearing space suits just because they make us look cool

There's absolutely no risk that Dr. Spencer infected anyone in New York City, which is why we are going to closely monitor four people he came into contact with.

We do that because we like to monitor random people for no real reason.

#2) We are fully prepared for an outbreak which will never happen

There is almost zero risk of Ebola ever coming to New York City, which is exactly why we have been preparing for an Ebola outbreak in New York City.

Huh?

#3) Ebola is so hard to catch that we can't believe anyone managed to catch it

Ebola is hard to catch. It's so hard to catch that the world's best-trained doctors accidentally caught it without even knowing they did.

We don't understand how this happens, unless Ebola was easy to catch, which it isn't. Trust us. We are expert virologists when we're not running for office and making political promises we'll never keep.

#4) Please quarantine yourself even though you don't need to

Ebola can't possibly be spread by people who don't show any symptoms, but we would prefer that doctors who return from West Africa quarantine themselves for 21 days even when they show no symptoms.

But even when doctors break those self-quarantine rules, we will praise them and talk about how much they "tried" to limit their exposure to the public.

#5) Riding the subway is a form of self-quarantine

Dr. Spencer is so awesome! He "tried" to limit his exposure to the public, and he did that by riding the subway, sharing an UBER vehicle and hanging out at bowling alleys with his fingers touching his [bowling] balls.

Because, y'know, the very best way to quarantine yourself is to go out in public. How could anyone not know that? Shouldn't we give Dr. Spencer a humanitarian award of some kind for putting the safety of others ahead of his own social needs?

#6) Please deposit all biomedical viral waste in the nearest public trash can

Here in New York City, we like to use public trash cans to dispose of biomedical waste that's contaminated with Ebola virus. (That's what NYPD cops were just caught on camera doing.) [1]

Because we figure the rats in NYC already carrying at least 18 deadly viruses anyway, so why not give 'em some Ebola to see what mutations might happen? What could possibly go wrong?

#7) Stopping public awareness of Ebola is far more important than stopping Ebola

In the great city of New York, we have decided that the real risk is not from Ebola itself but from public awareness of Ebola.

Thus, instead of going out of our way to stop Ebola, we are focusing our efforts on stopping awareness of Ebola.

Because it's far better for the public to be ignorant than afraid. In fact, that's pretty much also how we run the New York City budget, too.

#8 ) Everything tests negative. Whew!

As part of our effort to calm public fears, we are going to tell you that everybody who once had Ebola now tests negative for Ebola. It's all cleared!

We tested the nurses from Dallas, and it came up negative. We tested the friends of Thomas Duncan, and they came up negative. Heck, we even tested the Ebola virus for Ebola and it came up negative too. Thank goodness Ebola is now Ebola free.

#9) Enhanced airport screening catching everything except Ebola

Just to calm public fears, we are going to stage some medical theater for you at the airports, acting like we are stopping people with Ebola from entering the country.

...People like Dr. Spencer, of course, who walked right through our "enhanced screening" procedures because, well, it's all just for show anyway.

If you're wondering why such medical theater is necessary, refer to point #7, above.

#10) Twenty isolation hospital beds and 100,000 body bags... hmmm...

We are all so totally prepared for an Ebola outbreak in New York City that we have a whopping 20 hospital beds ready with viral isolation capabilities.

And just in case that doesn't work, we've got 100,000 body bags ready to deploy.

It's sort of a "Plan B" approach, but we're pretty sure that won't ever be necessary as long as all Ebola carriers self-quarantine by riding the subway and visiting bowling alleys, which we fully endorse because we are government authorities who always know what we are talking about.

Sources for this article include:
[1] http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/ny-police-ca...


Ten glaring Ebola contradictions told by government authorities who think we're all just stupid - NaturalNews.com

 

[Sal]

too bad we can`t play truth or dare with those idiots

 

[Tonington]

Natural News... taking them at their word is risky. It would help if they actually linked or provided attributable quotes to someone who said "There's absolutely no risk that Dr. Spencer infected anyone in New York City". I find that hard to believe. I wouldn't find it hard to believe if someone said they believe the risk is low. But low and absolutely no risk aren't the same thing at all.

 

[Sal]

Natural News... taking them at their word is risky. It would help if they actually linked or provided attributable quotes to someone who said "There's absolutely no risk that Dr. Spencer infected anyone in New York City". I find that hard to believe. I wouldn't find it hard to believe if someone said they believe the risk is low. But low and absolutely no risk aren't the same thing at all.

okay, but how did this happen...why did this happen...he knew the risks, a lay person knows the risks and we have not had first hand experience with this killer.... most if not all here on this very forum would NOT have gone out bowling or anywhere for that matter...so if someone with the kind of knowledge and awareness that this doctor should have had, acts in this manner is it any wonder we see morons at the helm, is it any wonder we project down the road

is it any wonder we lose confidence and begin to mock them and their expertise

 

[Locutus]

Speaking at the news conference, city officials said that while they were still investigating, they did not believe Dr. Spencer was symptomatic while he traveled around the city on Wednesday and therefore had not posed a risk to the public.

“He did not have a stage of disease that creates a risk of contagiousness on the subway,” Dr. Mary Bassett, the city health commissioner, said. “We consider it extremely unlikely, the probability being close to nil, that there will be any problem related to his taking the subway system.”

Still, out of an abundance of caution, officials said, the bowling alley in Williamsburg that he visited, the Gutter, was closed on Thursday night, and a scheduled concert there, part of the CMJ music festival, was canceled. Health workers were scheduled to visit the alley on Friday.

At Dr. Spencer’s apartment building, his home was sealed off and workers distributed informational fliers about the disease.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/n...us-at-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html

 

[Sal]

Speaking at the news conference, city officials said that while they were still investigating, they did not believe Dr. Spencer was symptomatic while he traveled around the city on Wednesday and therefore had not posed a risk to the public.

“He did not have a stage of disease that creates a risk of contagiousness on the subway,” Dr. Mary Bassett, the city health commissioner, said. “We consider it extremely unlikely, the probability being close to nil, that there will be any problem related to his taking the subway system.”

Still, out of an abundance of caution, officials said, the bowling alley in Williamsburg that he visited, the Gutter, was closed on Thursday night, and a scheduled concert there, part of the CMJ music festival, was canceled. Health workers were scheduled to visit the alley on Friday.

At Dr. Spencer’s apartment building, his home was sealed off and workers distributed informational fliers about the disease.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/n...us-at-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html

I have no words

 

[Tonington]

“We consider it extremely unlikely, the probability being close to nil, that there will be any problem related to his taking the subway system.”

Yes, thank you. Close to zero, not absolute zero. That's what I thought. Anyone who reads that and thinks absolutely no risk has a poor understanding of our language. But that's what you get at Natural News.

And Sal, losing confidence is one thing. Asserting that someone was lying and thinks you're stupid is another matter altogether.

It's funny, I was talking about this with a co-workers husband the other day. Where I work, we recognize what happens when sick people come to work. So we have a policy, we don't have sick days, we stay at home when we're ill. It prevents the whole building from getting ill and killing productivity. Nobody abuses it. My co-workers husband on the other hand, they have a few sick days a year. He works in the engineering department at a manufacturing site. So right away, people don't want to stay home, because they don't want to lose sick days, who knows how many they might need in the year? Use them up and you lose pay for staying home when you're sick.

So that's one difference. The next one, though, that is the biggest. If I go to work when I'm sick, I will be harassed and 'sick shamed', and my manager will tell me to go home. It's like that in all departments where I work. My co-workers husband? If he uses a sick day, he's going to hear it the next day. He'll be shamed and his manhood impugned because he stayed at home.

It's ridiculous. I wonder how much of that is at play in the US...

ETA: here's some microbiology math for you, the probability is close to zero...

 

[Sal]

And Sal, losing confidence is one thing. Asserting that someone was lying and thinks you're stupid is another matter altogether.

from my perspective, lied, mislead or sheer ignorance makes no difference if someone becomes infected

It's ridiculous. I wonder how much of that is at play in the US...

I don`t know about the US but in Canada, I would say a lot of it is at play generally, it depends of course upon the attitude of the company. Mine is good. I would never think of infecting others but I work around kids...parents can`t afford to take time off...we have rules about sending a kid back to school...many do not even follow the 24 hour rule for vomiting, let alone anything they consider minor. Also we are not supposed to use disinfectant with alcohol on the phones that the kids use...can you imagine...they feel sick and use the phone to call mum...some other kid then comes along and uses the phone to call mum because he forgot his soccer clothes.

they fall like flies and it spreads like wild fire...

 

[Locutus]

omfg :lol:

every official, politico, egghead or cab driver must now notary public and say 100% no chance at all, zero goddamn chance, absolute zero fuks given etc...

:lol:

*whew*

Dr. Spencer and was not considered to be at risk, officials said.

Dr. Spencer was symptomatic while he traveled around the city on Wednesday and therefore had not posed a risk to the public.


as in a not a single solitary risk.



New York officials said Dr Spencer had travelled on the subway and gone out jogging before he started feeling unwell.

But at a news conference late on Thursday, they sought to ease fears of an outbreak in the densely populated city of 8.4 million people, saying officials had prepared for weeks for an Ebola case. They added that those who came into contact with Dr Spencer were not at risk.


BBC News - Ebola outbreak: New York doctor Craig Spencer tests positive




Said de Blasio: "There is no reason for New Yorkers to be alarmed. Ebola is an extremely hard disease to contract. ... Being on the same subway car or living near a person with Ebola does not in itself put someone at risk."


New York City physician has Ebola. Mayor: ‘No reason for New Yorkers to be alarmed.’ - The Washington Post



risk

language

words

:lol:

they opened their intellectual and moral superior yaps and said too much too soon.

but anyway folks...

wurds

 

[Tonington]

from my perspective, lied, mislead or sheer ignorance makes no difference if someone becomes infected

I can't say I share that perspective, and I wouldn't call the comments about very low risk ignorant at all. There's over 5 million users on the NY subways daily. The Dr wasn't symptomatic at the time he rode the subway. If one person get's ill, out of 5 million, that's pretty friggin' close to 0, it's actually 0.0000002.

Kids are germ factories! We have parents at work too. They are the ones who get sick the most...lol

 

[Sal]

I can't say I share that perspective, and I wouldn't call the comments about very low risk ignorant at all. There's over 5 million users on the NY subways daily. The Dr wasn't symptomatic at the time he rode the subway. If one person get's ill, out of 5 million, that's pretty friggin' close to 0, it's actually 0.0000002.

but why would he put anyone at risk to begin with, this is a person, who should have made smarter choices, no, personally it is ethically reprehensible

Kids are germ factories! We have parents at work too. They are the ones who get sick the most...lol

oh, you are so right... the worst part is, they get sent to the office and they want to be close....they pick the closest chair they can find, after they get to know you, they will drag the frigging chair closer...and you do feel so bad for them until mum gets there, but I really don`t want their sneeze spray all over my desk or their spewing onto the carpet...much as ya love them, they aren`t mine....lol

I read it takes three years to build the immune system up to cope with the little germ carriers...damn but they are cute

 

[JLM]

I would imagine the bowling alley is probably one of the worst places for picking up bugs, especially if you are using the house balls, wetting your hand on the cloth everyone else uses and then there's the hand slapping after every strike or spare. If I'm coughing and blowing snot, I refrain from bowling even if I feel up to it for just that reason.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I would imagine the bowling alley is probably one of the worst places for picking up bugs, especially if you are using the house balls, wetting your hand on the cloth everyone else uses and then there's the hand slapping after every strike or spare. If I'm coughing and blowing snot, I refrain from bowling even if I feel up to it for just that reason.

The rack of gross bowling shoes they hit with the can of Lysol as
they hand you over your 'rental shoes' freaks me out. That's part
of why I refrain from bowling.

 

[JLM]

The rack of gross bowling shoes they hit with the can of Lysol as
they hand you over your 'rental shoes' freaks me out. That's part
of why I refrain from bowling.

It's a great sport Ron and you can't beat the camaraderie. (I have my own shoes) If you don't, wear socks!

 

[Tonington]

but why would he put anyone at risk to begin with, this is a person, who should have made smarter choices, no, personally it is ethically reprehensible

Technically, if he put anyone in New York 'at risk' then he put everyone on the plane at risk. But we know that the risk is, like the New York City official said, extremely small. If he wasn't showing symptoms, then locking yourself away is being overly paranoid, and putting travel restrictions in place would dissuade anyone from volunteering. And that, would be devastating for trying to control the African outbreak.

MSF has protocols for staff returning from West Africa, such as staying within 4 hours of a hospital with an isolation unit, but they don't require or even recommend self-quarantine. Dr. Spencer followed the protocols, and the people he had close contact with are now in isolation as well.

Doctors leave hospitals everyday, where there are drug resistant strains of bacteria that they could spread to those with weakened immune systems. What should govern their behavior is risk based assessments, which is exactly how those protocols, such as the MSFs have been developed.

 

[Sal]

Technically, if he put anyone in New York 'at risk' then he put everyone on the plane at risk. But we know that the risk is, like the New York City official said, extremely small. If he wasn't showing symptoms, then locking yourself away is being overly paranoid, and putting travel restrictions in place would dissuade anyone from volunteering. And that, would be devastating for trying to control the African outbreak.

MSF has protocols for staff returning from West Africa, such as staying within 4 hours of a hospital with an isolation unit, but they don't require or even recommend self-quarantine. Dr. Spencer followed the protocols, and the people he had close contact with are now in isolation as well.

Doctors leave hospitals everyday, where there are drug resistant strains of bacteria that they could spread to those with weakened immune systems. What should govern their behavior is risk based assessments, which is exactly how those protocols, such as the MSFs have been developed.

I have to think about this.

Somehow these protocols in place seem minimal given the serious nature of the disease. The fact that Dr. Spenser followed protocol and that people who have had close contact with him are now in isolation does not indicate to me that our protocol is enough. I don't think it is too much to ask, that someone who has been working with Ebola, isolate themselves for a given number of days. This is not paranoid it is a procedure that should be followed until we know more. This disease is young with unknown factors.

From a health perspective alone, all the experts know something, until they don't. Then everything changes. Then it changes again. This is not like researching the effects of caffeine on the brain and heart. Although it would be nice if they could decide on that too, but this is a deadly disease that kills rapidly.

Doctors do leave hospitals everyday where there ar drug resistance strains of bacteria that could spread to those with weakened immune systems. 8O That's a comforting piece of knowledge... okay just kidding. Big difference with that is we KNOW that over time it has NOT created an epidemic. We have experience and a history to refer to.

Ebola = screwing around in the dark. There are no experts. Until there are, and we have a better understanding and capability of handling it, I say err on the side of caution.

 

[Tonington]

I have to think about this.

Somehow these protocols in place seem minimal given the serious nature of the disease. The fact that Dr. Spenser followed protocol and that people who have had close contact with him are now in isolation does not indicate to me that our protocol is enough.

Why? It should be minimal until there is evidence that it needs to be more than that. Isolation is the precaution once there is evidence of infection, which was limited to 4 people once he started to show symptoms. The Dallas cluster is already dealt with. The protocols are doing what they're supposed to, limiting the risk of transmission.

The two cases of transmission inside the US resulted in no deaths, and no further spread of the disease. That is very effective. If that had of occurred in Guinea, there would be no outbreak, it wouldn't even have been more than a blip in world news, on page 14.

 

[Locutus]

Sick Five Year-Old Boy Quarantined for Ebola After Returning to US from Guinea (Video) | The Gateway Pundit

 

[Twila]

For me personally, it's not the fear of ebola that has me shocked and annoyed. It's that our professionals seem to not understanding what they are dealing with.

It's not that the nurse travelled with a fever. It's that a NURSE and the CDC OK'd her for travel. It's not that she had ebola while travelling or about the risk (which I know is infintisimal) it's that those we are told to rely on for our safety thought a nurse with a fever looking after ebola patients SHOULD fly.

Oh and it's flu season...Should be a fun media storm or not. Maybe those with a fever will stay home...maybe those with ebola will travel to the clinics...

big does of who the f" knows is going around now.

 

[EagleSmack]

For me personally, it's not the fear of ebola that has me shocked and annoyed. It's that our professionals seem to not understanding what they are dealing with.

It's not that the nurse travelled with a fever. It's that a NURSE and the CDC OK'd her for travel. It's not that she had ebola while travelling or about the risk (which I know is infintisimal) it's that those we are told to rely on for our safety thought a nurse with a fever looking after ebola patients SHOULD fly.

And the nurse that was being quarantined in New Jersey was spouting off that politicians shouldn't be making decisions that only medical professionals should be making because they are the experts. Nevertheless 3 of the 4 ebola victims in the US were medical professionals.