Duceppe says it's up to NFLD whether it wants to leave Canada
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I don't think there are a lot of people who want to kick Quebec out. What people want is for Quebec to be like any other province and for the people of Quebec to call themselves Canadians. I know that not everyone in Quebec wants to separate and I certainly hope that no other province will even consider joining them. I know that every once in awhile some Albertan or British Columbian rattles their own chain by stating they think we should separate. Well - we never will. There is only a very small handful of people who even mention it. People will say if Quebec wants to separate - let them. I've said it and I believe it. We're just tired of hearing it. However, that land is a part of Canada and they don't get to keep it. They don't get pensions, health care, our currency etc. etc. I think it's all a bunch of noise making anyway. Must be something important coming up that they want to draw our attention away from. :canada:
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Since 1949, Canada was suppose to help resolve our poverty (so they called it that to get us to join), yet 60 years later, we have:
1)The highest poverty rate in the country, especially among children. Some 66,000 people are living in poverty - that’s over double the population of Corner Brook.
2)The highest rural poverty in the country.
3)One of the worse illiteracy rates in the Country.
4) Had the largest layoff in Canada’s history with the 1992 Cod moratorium - some 40,000 people.
5)The highest unemployment rate, with some 30 consecutive years above 10%.
Will 60 more years of Canada’s grip fix these issues? Or will taking a responsible government of our own, work in favour of resolving these issues on our own, sooner than later?
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rock the boat Don't rock the boat,
when people are egnored they make noise, thus creating change.
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Since 1949, Canada was suppose to help resolve our poverty (so they called it that to get us to join), yet 60 years later, we have:
1)The highest poverty rate in the country, especially among children. Some 66,000 people are living in poverty - that’s over double the population of Corner Brook.
2)The highest rural poverty in the country.
3)One of the worse illiteracy rates in the Country.
4) Had the largest layoff in Canada’s history with the 1992 Cod moratorium - some 40,000 people.
5)The highest unemployment rate, with some 30 consecutive years above 10%.
Will 60 more years of Canada’s grip fix these issues? Or will taking a responsible government of our own, work in favour of resolving these issues on our own, sooner than later?
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rock the boat Don't rock the boat,
when people are egnored they make noise, thus creating change.
Separate From Canada Newfoundland Labrador?s Referendum of Self Determination:canada:
You can rock the boat without leaving for high seas. It seems that we are all always reading that our own province has the highest poverty rate amongst children. I'm not disagreeing with you. It just seems that we all have the same complaints. We are Canadians. We complain - usually just not loud enough.
Absolute lunacy. It took Newfoundland decades to figure out that they were running out of fish. All those many generations of fishing families that fishing could no longer support. Just about in the nick of time Canada comes along and offers a place in our confederation. All the federal aid money that has been poured into Newfoundland since 1949 has literally kept people from starving. There was a lot of federal money used to develop their off-shore oil. Now that the province is starting to get itself out of the red, somebody wants to talk about separation. :roll::roll:
I think this separation thing with Newfoundland is purely driven by Danny Williams because he doesn’t get along with Harper and (who can blame him for that), Harper doesn’t like anything, and Newfoundlanders have bought into Danny's litany to separate, thus making it difficult for Harper.
What you feel and what the law is are two different things. If it was law he would of been charged long ago plus the sepratist from out west. Machjo hit the nail on the head.mu·ti·ny(myÁtÆn ), n., pl. -nies, v., -nied, -ny·ing.
–n.
1. revolt or rebellion against constituted authority, esp. by sailors against their officers.
2. rebellion against any authority.
–v.i.
3. to commit the offense of mutiny; revolt against authority.
[1560–70; obs. mutine to mutiny (< MF mutiner, deriv. of mutin mutiny; see MUTINEER) + -Y3]
—Syn.2. uprising, overthrow, coup, takeover.
Sorry - I disagree with you. A mutiny is exactly what I feel Duceppe is attempting to do. He wants to take over parts of Canada bit by bit.. He does not make any pretense that he is a Canadian and he wants other provinces to join him. His own little French country. I've said it before and I still repeat - for anyone living in the province of Quebec, Canada, who does not want to be a Canadian - find a country of your own on land of your own. When you are proud to call yourself a Canadian then stay where you are - you are at home with the rest of us Canadians.
But the federal wanted to hold on the the offshore oil and not let NewFoundland have it. To me that shows a problem with the Federal government . The difference of NewFoundland and Quebec wanting to seperate is NewFoundland seem purely Financual , Quebec it's a fear of dissapearing. Too much fear tactic s In my opinion. It is an inevitable.
The Federal Government I would like to see what they have done for NewFoundland ?
Keep in mind that there is discourse in the Maritimes as well towards being a part of Canada, and it's not just Quebec, Newfoundland/Lab., or provinces in the west that talk the talk.
In fact, just recently the Atlantica Party was just officially registered, which plans to expand into New Brunswick and PEI.
Something interesting from their web site on how exactly Nova Scotia became a part of Canada:
Avalon
So by the sounds of things, Canada isn't so unified as our federal government would like us to believe.... which is kinda hard to make us believe based on how our federal government currently behaves and overall voter turnout continually dropping.
Once one province separates, the whole house of cards falls..... especially in the East, since if Quebec separates, New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland/Labrador will all be cut off from the rest of Canada, and considering the atmosphere here already, that alone would probably kick everybody here into high gear on what to do, who to unify with, etc.
Then what?
In fact, just recently the Atlantica Party was just officially registered, which plans to expand into New Brunswick and PEI.
Something interesting from their web site on how exactly Nova Scotia became a part of Canada:
Avalon
So by the sounds of things, Canada isn't so unified as our federal government would like us to believe.... which is kinda hard to make us believe based on how our federal government currently behaves and overall voter turnout continually dropping.
Once one province separates, the whole house of cards falls..... especially in the East, since if Quebec separates, New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland/Labrador will all be cut off from the rest of Canada, and considering the atmosphere here already, that alone would probably kick everybody here into high gear on what to do, who to unify with, etc.
Then what?
...and the debate rages on...
There's enough room in the sandbox for everyone. Duceppe is just picking at an old wound. He'll get bored and move on shortly.
There's enough room in the sandbox for everyone. Duceppe is just picking at an old wound. He'll get bored and move on shortly.
If theres any province seperating, im signing up and bringing you back into canada.....
Thats a promise
Thats a promise
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Now you're sounding like a mainland Chinese.
When I was in China, I'd hear Chinese say on the one hand they Taiwan was a part of China, yet on the other that If Taiwan ever officially secede, they'd want war. Well, if they believe Taiwan is a part of China and that the Taiwanese are their compatriots, then why are they so determined to kill them instead of wishing them the best?
When you love someone who doesn't love you, you let them go unless you're obsessed. So if you claim to be a patriotic Canadian, and pretend to love Canada (which I assume would include its people), then certainly you would wish the best for all Canadians, including those who don't consider themselves such, and would hope that if there is separation, that it will be separation on amicable terms. If you'd be so willing to start a civil war to prevent an amicable separation, then you clearly don't understand the meaning of patriotism. There are things worth fighting for when they affect the wellbeing and security of the people. A simple administrative readjustment does not fall into that category.
So Johnny, let me get this straight. If Quebec wanted to negotiate amicable and peaceful separation, you'd willingly want to throw the lives of innocent men, women and children into the heat of war just to satisfy your own nationalistic blood lust? Sorry, but that's not any kind of patriotism I recognize.
Besides, with Quebec having at least 20% of the population, and with much hydro power coming from Quebec, and its aeronautical industries, etc. you'd make Canada and Quebec poor countries indeed.