Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

L Gilbert

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re: Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

I believe that is the level that MADD wants. Some countries if I recall correctly have a BAC of 0.00
Using a bluetooth while driving does cause impairment.

With that in mind, isn't BC the place that yoinks your licence, and impounds your vehicle,
for 24hrs from the roadside without the due process of a court date, judgement, etc...?

Whoops...based upon 0.04ml/l
Both could very well be true.
 

JLM

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re: Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

Not a problem in your opinion- BAC 0.08 and higher is impaired in Canada.

Many people just miss the point completely.........some people are completely safe and capable at 0.08 while others are sh*tfaced out of their tree. When you set a limit you have to set it for the lowest common denominator and I think that 0.02 would be about right.
 

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re: Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

With that in mind, isn't BC the place that yoinks your licence, and impounds your vehicle,
for 24hrs from the roadside without the due process of a court date, judgement, etc...?

Whoops...based upon 0.04ml/l

Government of Alberta Ministry of Transportation: Strengthening Alberta’s approach to impaired driving
1.What has changed?

The changes introduced include progressive administrative penalties for drivers with blood alcohol levels of .05 or greater, tougher penalties for drivers over .08 and a stronger zero tolerance policy for new drivers.

2.What are the administrative penalties for drivers with a BAC of .05 to .08?

Previously, drivers caught with a blood alcohol concentration of .05 or greater were subject to a 24-hour suspension. Under Alberta’s new rules, these drivers get:
■A roadside sanction of a 3 day licence suspension and 3 day vehicle seizure for the first offence
■A roadside sanction of a 15 day suspension and 7 day vehicle seizure for the second offence plus a mandatory remedial course and may be referred to the Alberta Transportation Safety Board by the Registrar
■A roadside sanction of a 30 day suspension and 7 day vehicle seizure for third and subsequent offences plus a mandatory review by the Alberta Transportation Safety Board and a remedial course

3.What do these changes mean for new drivers?
Alberta requires new drivers to maintain a blood alcohol level of zero. Now, if they are stopped with any blood alcohol level at all, they face an immediate 30 day suspension and 7 day vehicle seizure. Each 30 day suspension will require an additional 1 year in the Graduated Licence Program.

4.How are these changes tougher on drivers caught driving over .08?
■Drivers who are over .08 continue to face criminal charges.
■As an added penalty and to keep our roads safer, their licences are now suspended immediately until their charges are resolved.
■These drivers now face a 3 or 7 day vehicle seizure.
■The use of ignition interlock devices has been expanded. For example, a first conviction nets a full year with the interlock, up from a discretionary six months. A second conviction requires 3 years of interlock and a third conviction requires 5 years of interlock.
 

lone wolf

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re: Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

Yes, I think we all know what the law is. The question is whether it should be. Neither MADD nor RIDE have given any me any reason to believe 0.08 should be. I see you are having the same issue they are.
Any you may not really give a damn....
 

Cannuck

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re: Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

According to science, 0.05 ml/l is when judgement and motor skills (reaction time, etc.) BOTH become impaired.

At the risk of beating a dead horse, the real question is whether this impairment leads to accidents and/or deaths.
 

Ron in Regina

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re: Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

I believe that is the level that MADD wants. Some countries if I recall correctly have a BAC of 0.00
Using a bluetooth while driving does cause impairment.

Eating a hamburger, drinking Tim Horton's urine in a to-go cup, smoking a cigarette,
kids fighting in the back seat, fatigue, a pedestrian in short-shorts, can all also cause
distraction and/or impairment. Once we start, where do we stop?
 

lone wolf

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re: Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

Eating a hamburger, drinking Tim Horton's urine in a to-go cup, smoking a cigarette,
kids fighting in the back seat, fatigue, a pedestrian in short-shorts, can all also cause
distraction and/or impairment. Once we start, where do we stop?
They're targeting that with Distracted Driving legislation.... Another cash cow
 

Goober

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re: Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

At the risk of beating a dead horse, the real question is whether this impairment leads to accidents and/or deaths.

Impaired Driving - Fact Sheets


While Ontario has come a long way, impaired driving remains a serious problem:

•Every year, about 17,000 drivers are convicted of Criminal Code of Canada offences (including impaired driving, driving with a blood alcohol concentration of more than 0.08, criminal negligence causing bodily harm or death, manslaughter, dangerous driving and failure to remain at the scene of a collision). It is estimated that approximately three quarters of those convictions are related to drinking and driving.
•Impaired drivers are involved in thousands of traffic collisions every year.
•Drunk driving accounts for almost 25% of all fatalities on Ontario’s roads.
•About 17,000 impaired driving incidents were reported by police in Ontario in 2005. In the same year, 174 people were killed and 3,852 were injured in motor vehicle collisions involving a drinking driver.


Drunk drivers get easy ride in Canada
Robert Solomon, a University of Western Ontario law professor and legal adviser for Mothers Against Drunk Driving Canada, makes a solid case for a major overhaul of Canada's impaired-driving laws. Federal law is now so distorted by technical defences that police officers often will not lay a criminal charge even if there is evidence, Solomon said last week. This amounts, he said, to de-facto decriminalization of the country's impaired-driving laws.

This is the wrong way for Canada to be headed. The toll taken in lives lost and property damaged by impaired driving is huge.

Drunk driving takes more than three times as many lives a year as homicides. In 2003, alcohol and/or drugs were involved in 1,257 fatalities, 74,181 injuries, and 161,299 property-damage-only crashes. The total financial and social costs were estimated to run to $10.95 billion. This is, or should be, a national disgrace.
 

Cannuck

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re: Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

Comprehension problems today?

Yes, it would seem you do have comprehension problems today. The study I read a while back suggests that people with BAC between 0 and 0.10 compensate for their impairment in some way and are therefore not part of the problem. I've been asking if there is any statistical evidence that those under 0.10 BAC are a significant problem worthy of our society spending millions of dollars on.
 

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re: Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

Ban motor vehicles! lol

Cars are not the problem- Ban people.

Yes, it would seem you do have comprehension problems today. The study I read a while back suggests that people with BAC between 0 and 0.10 compensate for their impairment in some way and are therefore not part of the problem. I've been asking if there is any statistical evidence that those under 0.10 BAC are a significant problem worthy of our society spending millions of dollars on.

Do you have a link for that study.
 

L Gilbert

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Yes, it would seem you do have comprehension problems today.
Nope.
The study I read a while back suggests that people with BAC between 0 and 0.10 compensate for their impairment in some way and are therefore not part of the problem.
Post it then. Besides, a suggestion is just that. Anything can suggest anything almost.
 

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1) Is this the same Thread?
2) Can we keep this civil before I have to start flushing chunks of this Thread?

Merging them would be nice. Less confusion for us older members.
Name it Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, and everything in between.
 

CDNBear

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re: Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

Post it then. Besides, a suggestion is just that. Anything can suggest anything almost.
Good luck with that.

Facts only matter when he wants them from you, lol.