Does liberalism attract the wrong kind of immigrant?

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

If not restrict them, then at least keep all businesses that sell them out of the public's eyes.

My taxes pay for public health care. What about yours?

It's a common system that deals with lots of people doing stupid stuff or eating wrong or not exercising the proper amount of time per day or whatever. If you want to go to a user pay system, that would be more the American system but you better have a job to cover the private insurance otherwise you may not get cured. Personally, while far from perfect, I like the Canadian model. I also enjoy the freedom of choice with my life and really would not do well in a totalitarian style state you are proposing.

 

[eh1eh]

I'd been reading that due to the baby-boom, we'll soon need to significantly increase our immigration rates.

Okay, fine. But then how might our lax tobacco, alcohol, drug, gambling, prostitution, and other laws attract the wrong kind of immigrant?

For example, a marijuana or sex laddict would rather emigrate to Amsterdam thanto the USA.

Should we toughen these laws to make Canada less attractive to them?

If we toughen these laws we will attract the religious fundamentalists.
We do not want those brain dead people here.
Unless you want them telling you how to live your life?
I know I don't.

 

[Machjo]

If we toughen these laws we will attract the religious fundamentalists.
We do not want those brain dead people here.
Unless you want them telling you how to live your life?
I know I don't.

Or we might just attract healthier people.

So to further toughen advertising laws against businesses that profit the sale of addictive products is totalitarian?

Science shows alcohol kills people for example. Are you saying that's a myth perpetrated by religious fanatics?

 

[lone wolf]

You really think people who'd eat cat food in order to pay Church dues are healthier?

 

[gerryh]

Science shows alcohol kills people for example.

I call bullshyte. Post the study.

 

[darkbeaver]

Does liberalism attract the wrong kind of immigrant?

It certainley does. We want the hungry and the destitute.


If you're attracked by food and shelter and relative peace your on, if your're attracted by liberalism your an idiot, we have lots of them already.

 

[eh1eh]

Or we might just attract healthier people.

So to further toughen advertising laws against businesses that profit the sale of addictive products is totalitarian?

Science shows alcohol kills people for example. Are you saying that's a myth perpetrated by religious fanatics?

Nope it's true. Only fanatics are in favour of banning it though.
Also oxygen kills people too. It literally rusts every atom of your body.
We should ban people who use oxygen. It kills people.

 

[darkbeaver]

Nope it's true. Only fanatics are in favour of banning it though.
Also oxygen kills people too. It literally rusts every atom of your body.
We should ban people who use oxygen. It kills people.

I got the oxygen disease right now. That5 fukkin air is killing me.

 

[gerryh]

I got the oxygen disease right now. That5 fukkin air is killing me.

Alcohol, lots and lots of alcohol. It's a preservative.

 

[darkbeaver]

It's not working so far.

 

[gerryh]

It's not working so far.

I can still read your typing, obviously not enough yet.

 

[taxslave]

I'd been reading that due to the baby-boom, we'll soon need to significantly increase our immigration rates.

Okay, fine. But then how might our lax tobacco, alcohol, drug, gambling, prostitution, and other laws attract the wrong kind of immigrant?

For example, a marijuana or sex laddict would rather emigrate to Amsterdam thanto the USA.

Should we toughen these laws to make Canada less attractive to them?

No such thing as a marijuana addict. Sex addict is an invented disease brought to you by people with low sex drive and high ***** envy.

WE really do not need to keep increasing our population except the government runs both pension and healthcare like giant pyramid schemes that require a constant influx of new marks to fleece in order to pay off the old ones. Also immigrants tend to remember which party gave them a bunch of freebees and return the favor with votes.

 

[Bar Sinister]

No such thing as a marijuana addict. Sex addict is an invented disease brought to you by people with low sex drive and high ***** envy.

WE really do not need to keep increasing our population except the government runs both pension and healthcare like giant pyramid schemes that require a constant influx of new marks to fleece in order to pay off the old ones. Also immigrants tend to remember which party gave them a bunch of freebees and return the favor with votes.

Actually nations with low rates of immigration (Japan and Russia for example) generally experience low levels of growth due to declining birthrates and a decrease in consumer demand. And far from increasing Canada's population, current immigration levels will barely keep it level. Canada's birthrate per woman is only 1.6, not enough to stave off population decline without immigration.

 

[darkbeaver]

It's obviously too expensive to replicate in Canada.

 

[Machjo]

Actually nations with low rates of immigration (Japan and Russia for example) generally experience low levels of growth due to declining birthrates and a decrease in consumer demand. And far from increasing Canada's population, current immigration levels will barely keep it level. Canada's birthrate per woman is only 1.6, not enough to stave off population decline without immigration.

Not only that, but it creates a vicious cycle:

No immigration - low growth - weak job prospects - fewer children - low growth - blame immigrants - low immigration.

High immigration - growth - jobs - stability - more children - more growth - more welcoming if immigrants.

Another irony of life.

 

[Ludlow]

I will share that several years ago my step father and I had a favorite campsite next to the river where we'd spend the weekend catfishing and shooting the breeze. Wasn't long before the Mexican illegals and Viet Namese refugees found our little spot. Soon there were used baby diapers and all types of trash strewn along the river bank. Sam and I have good memories though of when it was a clean place to camp and fish.

 

[gerryh]

Still waiting.

Can you show, any time in history, where an out right ban on something "helped" in the long run.



I'll help ya out on the negative side. You can come up with the positive.


Tobacco: since the Canadian government started increasing taxes exponentially on tobacco products, "bootleg" cigs have boomed. We have a huge problem with that. This also gives an in for organized crime.

Alcohol: Oh ya, prohibition was a HUGE success. :roll:

Marijuana: The American states that have legalized it have seen nothing but positives so far. They have NOT had a huge influx of tourists looking to get high. Also, since we have areas south of the border where pot is already legal, why would americans come up here to smoke it?

 

[pgs]

Actually nations with low rates of immigration (Japan and Russia for example) generally experience low levels of growth due to declining birthrates and a decrease in consumer demand. And far from increasing Canada's population, current immigration levels will barely keep it level. Canada's birthrate per woman is only 1.6, not enough to stave off population decline without immigration.

Maybe they are happy spending their money on themselves .

I will share that several years ago my step father and I had a favorite campsite next to the river where we'd spend the weekend catfishing and shooting the breeze. Wasn't long before the Mexican illegals and Viet Namese refugees found our little spot. Soon there were used baby diapers and all types of trash strewn along the river bank. Sam and I have good memories though of when it was a clean place to camp and fish.

I remember that place , were you Andy or Ohpy ?

 

[Ludlow]

Maybe they are happy spending their money on themselves .


I remember that place , were you Andy or Ohpy ?

Funny

 

[Machjo]

Still waiting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_advertising

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_advertising

Why do you think we regulate the advertising of these products? Why not regulate the advertising of any shop that sells the product too? Those who really want to buy will find it but that they these products could no longer be promoted.