Does God demand equality?

[Motar]

Perhaps there is a morality that is higher than the one you have known, FP.

"You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:6-8 )

"Mercy triumphs over judgment." (James 2:13 NIV)

 

[French Patriot]

Perhaps there is a morality that is higher than the one you have known, FP.

"You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:6-8 NIV)

So you cannot debate for the morality of your God and would rather quote something saying that your immortal God can somehow die.
One doe snot die if one does not stay dead.


Thanks for showing how pathetic of an apologist you are and just how poor your morals are.


Regards
DL

You need more feminist friends, I guess. The wife is to respect the husband, but equally as important is that "husbands re to love the wife as Christ loves the church."

As far as women being rulers, there were women rulers in the Bible, some were approved of by God (eg. Deborah) and some where not (eg. Jezebel, who we all know wore the pants in the family).

Yes but they would have been going against your bible.


So tell us again how the ruler and the ruled are equal.


Or are you retracting that idiotic notion?


Regards
DL

equality has to be figured out between all peoples of the earth, depending on some makebelief
entity is just an excuse to be unfair to others, because they have a different makebelief entity.

look to each other, lose your arrogance for yourself, see others as equal to yourself, by yourself.

its easy.

For some, it is quite easy.


For Christians and Muslims, with their religion dictating discrimination and inequality, I imagine it becomes quite a bit harder and that is why secular law should be using our tax exemption laws to have churches comply with the law of the land.


We are a land of government rule. Not a theocracy by misogynous churches.


Regards
DL

"Mercy triumphs over judgment." (James 2:13 NIV)

If your God knew mercy then he would have stepped up instead of sending his son to die.


Who would you send to die for a condition you set? Your son or would you have the mercy and balls to do the right thing and step up yourself?


Should fathers bury sons or sons bury fathers?


Note that your answer shows that you have more morals than your prick of a God.


If you answered the right way that is.


If not then that would make you the same type of immoral prick as your God.


Regards
DL

 

[Motar]

So you cannot debate for the morality of your God and would rather quote something saying that your immortal God can somehow die.

God does not need my debate, FP. Perhaps there is a wisdom that is higher than the one you have known.

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,' declares the LORD. 'As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than yours and my thoughts than your thoughts. As the rain and the snow come down from heaven, and do not return to it without watering the earth and making it bud and flourish, so that it yeilds seed for the sower and bread for the eater, so is my word that goes out from my mouth: it will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose which I sent it." (Isaiah 55:8-11 NIV)

 

[French Patriot]

God does not need my debate, FP. Perhaps there is a wisdom that is higher than the one you have known.

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,' declares the LORD. 'As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than yours and my thoughts than your thoughts. As the rain and the snow come down from heaven, and do not return to it without watering the earth and making it bud and flourish, so that it yeilds seed for the sower and bread for the eater, so is my word that goes out from my mouth: it will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose which I sent it." (Isaiah 55:8-11 NIV)

Morals are the issue and not wisdom and you show you have neither when ignoring to do what you own bible tells you to do.


Much easier for you to hide behind your stupid, --- God works in mysterious ways B.S.


While at the same taking as truth all the lies your religion is telling you of all they fathom of a God they say is unfathomable.


1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.


You are holding fast to an immoral tenet and don't even care. That is how badly your morals have been corrupted by your religion.


Come and test your immoral tenet and prove it moral or go away and hide some more.


Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.


Do you agree?


Regards
DL

 

[Motar]

Morals are the issue and not wisdom and you show you have neither when ignoring to do what you own bible tells you to do. Much easier for you to hide behind your stupid, --- God works in mysterious ways B.S. While at the same taking as truth all the lies your religion is telling you of all they fathom of a God they say is unfathomable. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. You are holding fast to an immoral tenet and don't even care. That is how badly your morals have been corrupted by your religion. Come and test your immoral tenet and prove it moral or go away and hide some more. Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral. Do you agree? Regards DL

Moral is as moral does, FP. As you look over our discussion, how would you characterize the tone, content and character of your posts?

 

[Nuggler]

:rollunno if Frenchie gave me the red, but just in case:

Vas te faire encule ol Patriot dip shyte.

 

[Gilgamesh]

There is no Invisible Big Head In The Sky.

The moment our hominid ancestors became aware enough to know that they were mortal, they invented God/s.

Prey sad comment on the gullibility of the masses.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Who cares if Gawd demands equality? Gawd demands all sorts of sh*t, and his self-proclaimed believers do the exact opposite all the time. Like that whole "love your neighbor" thing.

 

[JLM]

Should we be looking for an answer to this thread before the other thread on God reaches resolution?

 

[DaSleeper]

I have no problems with people who believe or don't believe in God...
Just people who pontificate about their belief or lack of belief ad nauseam!!!

 

[French Patriot]

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Moral is as moral does, FP. As you look over our discussion, how would you characterize the tone, content and character of your posts?

Tough love and impatience with fools who do not recognize poor morals and follow a God with satanic ones who likes to punish the innocent instead of the guilty.


I know my character.


As you look over our discussion, how would you characterize the tone, content and character of your posts?


Regards
DL

:rollunno if Frenchie gave me the red, but just in case:

Vas te faire encule ol Patriot dip shyte.

Guilty as charged.


I did have a second thought and thought I might have been slightly harsh but could not reverse it.


Too bad so sad. Your post was still near useless.


Regards
DL

There is no Invisible Big Head In The Sky.

The moment our hominid ancestors became aware enough to know that they were mortal, they invented God/s.

Prey sad comment on the gullibility of the masses.

Do you think we do so out of instincts?


I think Freud and his Father Complex are saying we create Gods to emulate them and become the fittest of our species.


Humans for get that we are animals at heart and one of us has to be the fittest.


Regards
DL

I have no problems with people who believe or don't believe in God...
Just people who pontificate about their belief or lack of belief ad nauseam!!!

You have no problem with those who deny your wife, daughters and mother full equality.


Ok.


Regards
DL

 

[Glacier]

Yes but they would have been going against your bible.


So tell us again how the ruler and the ruled are equal.


Or are you retracting that idiotic notion?


Regards
DL

My bible? I prefer to discuss religion in neutral or agnostic terms. ie. If we are going to argue about whether the Bible God (or whatever god) demands equity, then let's for arguments sake assume that the book used to back up each argument is indeed an accurate depiction of God.

The ruler and the ruled are not equal in terms of power, but that's obviously not what I was getting at. Head of the house is not the same as head of corporation or head of the nation.

 

[skw]

My bible? I prefer to discuss religion in neutral or agnostic terms. ie. If we are going to argue about whether the Bible God (or whatever god) demands equity, then let's for arguments sake assume that the book used to back up each argument is indeed an accurate depiction of God.

The ruler and the ruled are not equal in terms of power, but that's obviously not what I was getting at. Head of the house is not the same as head of corporation or head of the nation.

Ill throw my 2cents in 1st the bible waswritten by man how accurate can it be 2nd living by the commandments isnt wrong 3rd most of the so called Christians I know are hippocrites

 

[Motar]

To answer your question, FP, I would characterize my posts on this thread as one sojourner informing others where to find rest in enemy-occupied territory. (Hebrews 11:13-1 6 NIV)

 

[French Patriot]

My bible? I prefer to discuss religion in neutral or agnostic terms. ie. If we are going to argue about whether the Bible God (or whatever god) demands equity, then let's for arguments sake assume that the book used to back up each argument is indeed an accurate depiction of God.

The ruler and the ruled are not equal in terms of power, but that's obviously not what I was getting at. Head of the house is not the same as head of corporation or head of the nation.

It maters not if one is the ruler of the house, state or corporation. The ruled are never his equal while he rules.


Ever see a ruled try to give a ruler orders? I have not. At least noit effectively. The ruler orders and the ruled do as bid.


Regards
DL

To answer your question, FP, I would characterize my posts on this thread as one sojourner informing others where to find rest in enemy-occupied territory. (Hebrews 11:13-1 6 NIV)

And I am informing that Christianity is an immoral homophobic and misogynous creed and are the enemy of morality.


Regards
DL

 

[JLM]

Shouldn't we wait until we have a consensus as to whether there is a God or not before we try to figure out if He/She demands equality?

 

[French Patriot]

Shouldn't we wait until we have a consensus as to whether there is a God or not before we try to figure out if He/She demands equality?

How much of a consensus do you want or need?


The vast majority on earth declare themselves to be believers.


If majority rules and they are correct, it is the few of us who are wrong.


That majority is why, unfortunately, I write about their homophobia and misogyny and how they do not grant each other equality.


Regards
DL

 

[Motar]

Perhaps there is a morality that is higher than the one you have known, FP. "You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:6-8 NIV)

Are you familiar with the story and characters in Les Miserables, FP? If so, with whom do you identify most - Inspector Javert or Jean Valjean?

 

[Gilgamesh]

Majority's do not rule. It 90% of the world belies the world is flat......?

Anybody who spends their life writing about others homophobia and misogyny should get a life.

There is no evidence for a God and never will be.

And if 99.999% of the world's population disagree that makes no difference.

The only "evidence" in this department is from a few thousand years of human history. If She exists then she allows the Four Horseman free reign. she allows the Huns, the Arnenian Holocaust, the Ukrainian, and Nazi Holocaust, Mao, Pol pot etc..

Not to speak of getting kicks out of cancer, and other diseases He or She invented for the fun of it.

We haven't even touched upon the lousy design of various features of our bodies.

All those horrors above can he explained in only two ways.

One, the cold but logical evolution & natural selection,

Or, two, the work & fun & games of an evil psychopathic maniac.