Do you trust Canadian mass media

[peapod]

something borrowed, something blue :lol: :lol:

 

[Jay]

Just thought I would ask. So much for trying to understand…

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Do you trust Canadian

I think the poem is pretty self-explanatory, JJ.

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: RE: Do you trust Canadian

I think the poem is pretty self-explanatory, JJ.

Would Osama approve of this poetry?

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Do you trust Canadian

Cut the crap, Eaglesmack.

 

[mrmom2]

Ithink Bush has done nothing but write laws that take away your rights jay I.E. the patriot act and the new super national Id card legislation that passed in your house today.Its not just the left jay

 

[Vanni Fucci]

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/031505X.shtml

very revealing... :wink:

 

[mrmom2]

Vanni strikes again another awesome site i couldn't get the link to work . What article were you talking about ?I see I will be up reading all night again .

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Here it is in long form...

TO Editor's Comment: This story appears to be gathering steam quickly. In addition to considerable public outrage, the White House's position was further complicated by a ruling from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) that the practice described was illegal, violating laws prohibiting the U.S. government from producing covert propaganda. In response to the GAO's ruling, an attorney for the Justice Department issued a statement in opposition to the GAO's position, stating the White House had not broken the law and is within its rights to continue the practice.

While the attorney who drafted the opinion was Steven Bradbury, the final decision on whether or not to take legal action against the White House would have to be made by the head of the Justice Department, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, the man who has been George W. Bush's personal attorney for decades. Accordingly, we are reporting that the Justice Department, under the direction of Gonzales, is shielding the White House rather than acting on the recommendation of the GAO. - ma.

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White House to Agencies: Ignore GAO's Ruling on 'Illegal' TV News Releases
By Ken Herman
Cox News Service

Tuesday 15 March 2005

Washington - The White House, intent on continuing to crank out "video news releases" that look like television news stories, has told government agency heads to ignore a Government Accountability Office memo criticizing the practice as illegal propaganda.

In a memo on Friday, Joshua Bolten, director of the Office of Management and Budget, said the lawyers the White House depends on disagree with the GAO's conclusions.

Accompanying Bolten's memo was a letter from Steven Bradbury, principal deputy assistant attorney general in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, who said video news releases "are the television equivalent of the printed press release." advertisement

"They can be a cost-effective means to distribute information through local news outlets, and their use by private and public entities has been widespread since the early 1990s, including by numerous federal agencies," Bradbury said.

Comptroller General David Walker of the GAO said Monday that his agency is "disappointed by the administration's actions" in telling agency heads to ignore the GAO, the investigative arm of Congress.

"This is not just a legal issue, it's also an ethical matter," Walker said. "The taxpayers have a right to know when the government is trying to influence them with their own money."

Bradbury's memo said video news releases are legal and legitimate as long as they don't "constitute advocacy for any particular position or view."

The GAO, in a Feb. 17 memo to agency heads, said its review of video news releases distributed to television stations by the Department of Health and Human Services and the Office of National Drug Control Policy showed violations of federal law barring the use of government money for propaganda. The GAO said, "Television-viewing audiences did not know that stories they watched on television news programs about the government were, in fact, prepared by the government."

Giving no indication that the administration would change its policy, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said, "It's very clear to the TV stations where they are coming from."

But the GAO, in the Feb. 17 memo from Walker, said that's not enough.

"They are intended to be indistinguishable from news segments broadcast to the public by independent television news organizations," Walker wrote. "To help accomplish this goal, these stories include actors or others hired to portray 'reporters' and may be accompanied by suggested scripts that television news anchors can use to introduce the story during the broadcast."

Former White House press secretary Mike McCurry, who held the job in the Clinton administration, said there was a "considerable amount of video news release activity" during those years, but much of it was limited to raw footage."

 

[EagleSmack]

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/031505X.shtml

very revealing... :wink:

Inciteful... :roll:

 

[mrmom2]

I heard a story that homeland defense has also set up an office in L.A. to do the same kind of thing the pentagon is doing

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Do you trust Canadian

I think the poem is pretty self-explanatory, JJ.

Hmmm, I thought I asked Pea. I didn't know you were Pea.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Do you trust Canadian

I'm not Peapod and I wasn;t speaking for her. That's why I didn't say, "Peapod is saying..." Instead I said, "I think."

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Do you trust Canadian mass media

Ithink Bush has done nothing but write laws that take away your rights jay I.E. the patriot act and the new super national Id card legislation that passed in your house today.Its not just the left jay

The patriot act is an American law, and I live in Ontario Canada. The only laws passed in my house are done by my wife, and I lobby her to see if I can persuade her to pass beer friendly laws. I often fail to make her see my point.

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: RE: Do you trust Canadian mass media

Ithink Bush has done nothing but write laws that take away your rights jay I.E. the patriot act and the new super national Id card legislation that passed in your house today.Its not just the left jay

The patriot act is an American law, and I live in Ontario Canada. The only laws passed in my house are done by my wife, and I lobby her to see if I can persuade her to pass beer friendly laws. I often fail to make her see my point.

:lol:

Funny... but I think that most people around here would not see the humor.

 

[Jay]

As true as that may be, I'm not going to let it stop me from having fun.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Do you trust Canadian

I'm not Peapod and I wasn;t speaking for her. That's why I didn't say, "Peapod is saying..." Instead I said, "I think."

I am rather aware that you think Rev. That wasn't in question.

What Pea was thinking when she posted the poetry piece is in question.

It's OK though, we don't need to talk about it anymore. I was just wondering.

 

[mrmom2]

Sorry Jay I was not aware you were a canuck.My mistake

 

[Jay]

That’s no problem. Worse has happened.