Do you have a religious mind?

look3467

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Heh... I modifed my post while you were posting that. Yep, we can do it all here except laugh about how totally wrong I was. That we don't know yet.

We have to invite Gilbert and have a stout with him too. Matter of fact, the padre, and his compares too. After all, the bond is love, not religion.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:
 

Dexter Sinister

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The bond is love, not religion.
Yes, we can certainly agree on that much at least. Love in the broadest sense, in the sense that the scriptures require that we love our neighbours. Doesn't mean you want to marry them and live with them for the rest of your days, it's about caring and interest and concern and compassion and help and support and honour and duty and loyalty and commitment and dignity and respect... The old Victorian virtues, to which I suscribe. I'd love to sit around a table with you and sanctus and Gil and self and karrie and amber and dozens of others here... but isn't that what we're really doing already?
 

look3467

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Yes, we can certainly agree on that much at least. Love in the broadest sense, in the sense that the scriptures require that we love our neighbours. Doesn't mean you want to marry them and live with them for the rest of your days, it's about caring and interest and concern and compassion and help and support and honour and duty and loyalty and commitment and dignity and respect... The old Victorian virtues, to which I suscribe.

Absolutely!

Peace>>>AJ:love9:
 

Dexter Sinister

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I get that I really do but what is it then when people use the word heart? Spirit? Core being? what?
It's a metaphor for all of it, a convenient shorthand for our deepest feelings, the things that awe and humble and inspire and sometimes frighten or confuse us, and our responses to them. It's rooted in an ancient Greek (I think) notion that the heart is the seat of such things. It's not, it's all in the head, but the ancients didn't know that.


Jeez, do you think china had any idea what his OP would lead to? :)
 

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It's a metaphor for all of it, a convenient shorthand for our deepest feelings, the things that awe and humble and inspire and sometimes frighten or confuse us, and our responses to them. It's rooted in an ancient Greek (I think) notion that the heart is the seat of such things. It's not, it's all in the head, but the ancients didn't know that.


Jeez, do you think china had any idea what his OP would lead to? :)


Thank you
 

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All due respect and so forth Gil, but that's bullsh*t. I've read stuff where you talk about your wife, and your children, and your feelings, and it's plain that you're as spiritual as I am.
Well, I'm glad you think so, Dex, but I go by dictionary definitions and the ones I saw in the link don't apply to me. I admit to having feelings, though, but that's passion, not spirituality. ;)
 

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My understandings of all that I have studied and learned, I feel strongly that God has given me a big heart to exercise in behalf of many who would need a lift of confidences, and some assurances of there being a God of love.

All souls belong to Christ, and I strongly believe that all of us will know each other there. We will have appreciated the time we spent here on earth for if it were not for it, we wouldn't be sharing this message up there!

Peace>>>AJ:love9:
lmao
Up where? I kinda get a charge out of people who think their "heaven" is up. I don't think you could find a heaven even if you could go up for the rest of your life and 20 other's lives. I almost laugh when I see people mentioning their god and looking up like it's sitting on top of a cloud or doing a flyby in an ultralight or whatever.
 
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lmao
Up where? I kinda get a charge out of people who think their "heaven" is up. I don't think you could find a heaven even if you could go up for the rest of your life and 20 other's lives. I almost laugh when I see people mentioning their god and looking up like it's sitting on top of a cloud or doing a flyby in an ultralight or whatever.

Yeah, and that's only the half of it, where the "hell" is "hell".
 

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Down there. lol
Well, it is sposed to be hot as hell in hell, and temperatures get pretty hot as one goes down: the point where the crust and the mantle are together is about 850° C and the bottom side of the mantle is about 4500 C° and so on. ;)

How will we all get down there?? Will we have special suits?
 

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Don't think we need em. Once nerves are dead, they're dead.

I think folks "down there" will warm up to us. :D

We won't recognize all of our friends/relatives, as all "crispy criters" will look the same, and
we'll all be black then, so, no more prejudices, finally.
 

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'WE must find out what is a RELIGIOUS mind, because a religious mind brings about a new world a new civilization, a new culture, a new outburst of energy. One must find out for oneself what is a religious mind, not be told, not be directed , not explained to.You can only find out if you deny totally all the present religious BELIEFS and ideas, because it is only a free mind that can find out what is the quality of the religious mind. A prisoner wants freedom, which means first he is caught in a prison, then he wants freedom to leave that prison. That is only reaction. That reaction is not freedom. Freedom implies the total ending of all illusions, of all BELIEFS, of all your accumulated wants, desires. A religious mind is sane, healthy.
 

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'WE must find out what is a RELIGIOUS mind, because a religious mind brings about a new world a new civilization, a new culture, a new outburst of energy. One must find out for oneself what is a religious mind, not be told, not be directed , not explained to.You can only find out if you deny totally all the present religious BELIEFS and ideas, because it is only a free mind that can find out what is the quality of the religious mind. A prisoner wants freedom, which means first he is caught in a prison, then he wants freedom to leave that prison. That is only reaction. That reaction is not freedom. Freedom implies the total ending of all illusions, of all BELIEFS, of all your accumulated wants, desires. A religious mind is sane, healthy.

It is called the renewing of your mind: Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Again speaking of the spiritual heart that is in us. For when that is renewed we become new creatures of the new creation that is NOT of this world. That is why one is able to overcome the lusts of the flesh to the lusts of the spiritual kingdoms power.

All this is accomplished in the spirit of our spiritual hearts as indicated in the following verse: Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

The heart is what needs renewing not the body. The body is going to die anyways. But you, who you are shall live on to be with Him in Heaven. Heaven is up as a point of reference, simply because we look up to God as a mighty God, Lord of the universe, second to none.

His power is demonstrated in us and by us as we give Him the place in our hearts.

Our life span is short on this earth, what we should do is make the best of it to learn about who we are in God and then help our neighbor to know Him as well.

That is consistent with the two great commandments. There is none other commandment given unto mankind by where
renewal, salvation, and good will towards all mankind can be had.

The flesh was created such that of it's own power, the ability to reproduce self spiritually, is not there.
It takes a spiritual encounter with the God of the universe to activate one's heart to renewal and regeneration.
That can be had here on earth today, and enjoy the benefits of the new kingdom, while still in your skin.

Hell, is a term used to indicate spiritual separation causing death to the soul. (Heart) And hell can also mean a separation from the graces of God which brings to ourselves our own consequences of our sins. (Transgressions)

Originally, the sin of Adam was separation. Thus all born of him after him were and are spiritually separated from God. That means death to our souls. Thereby, necessitation a renewal, by forgiveness of all our sins, giving us the opportunity to achieve the impossible, enabling us to have entrance into the new spiritual kingdom.

Now, this view need not be accepted as x-plained because the option is yours. But I, knowing of this new kingdom and its power, can attest to its reality by reason of the experience.

I lack nothing in this world, for I have everything.

Heb 10:34 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
1Pe 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

Those are the promises given to us by which we may stand on as solid and strong foundation in the midst of a confused earth.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:








 

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It is called the renewing of your mind: Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Again speaking of the spiritual heart that is in us. For when that is renewed we become new creatures of the new creation that is NOT of this world. That is why one is able to overcome the lusts of the flesh to the lusts of the spiritual kingdoms power.
All this is accomplished in the spirit of our spiritual heartsas indicated in the following verse: Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
the heart is what needs renewing not the body. The body is going to die anyways. But you, who you are shall live on to be with Him in Heaven. Heaven is up as a point of reference, simply because we look up to God as a mighty God, Lord of the universe, second to none.
His power is demonstrated in us and by us as we give Him the place in our hearts.
Our life span is short on this earth, what we should do is make the best of it to learn about who we are in God and then help our neighbor to know Him as well.
That is consistent with the two great commandments. There is none other commandment given unto mankind by where
renewal, salvation, and good will towards all mankind can be had.
The flesh was created such that of it's own power, the ability to reproduce self spiritually, is not there.
It takes a spiritual encounter with the God of the universe to activate one's heart to renewal and regeneration.
That can be had here on earth today, and enjoy the benefits of the new kingdom, while still in your skin.
Hell, is a term used to indicate spiritual separation causing death to the soul. (Heart) And hell can also mean a separation from the graces of God which brings to ourselves our own consequences of our sins. (Transgressions)
Originally, the sin of Adam was separation. Thus all born of him after him were and are spiritually separated from God. That means death to our souls. Thereby, necessitation a renewal, by forgiveness of all our sins, giving us the opportunity to achieve the impossible, enabling us to have entrance into the new spiritual kingdom.
Now, this view need not be accepted as x-plained because the option is yours. But I, knowing of this new kingdom and its power, can attest to its reality by reason of the experience.
I lack nothing in this world, for I have everything.
Heb 10:34 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
1Pe 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
Those are the promises given to us by which we may stand on as solid and strong foundation in the midst of a confused earth.
Peace>>>AJ


OK,great ,fantastic. I've read it ( for over 45 ys ) what do I do next ?
 
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Look, Look3467 that mystic stuff of yours isn't Christian anymore than cars are all fords, it's old stuff worked out in the mouths of caves in close proximity to the fire while gazing at the moon and the sun and the stars.When jesus was just a twinkle in gods eye.:wave:
 

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look3467Hebrews 8
10)But this is the covenant I will establish with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put my laws in their minds and I will write them upon their hearts. I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 110 And they shall not teach, each one his fellow citizen and kinsman, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for all shall know me, from least to greatest.So now that we all know about the God Look 3467 sholdn't you obey God,s wish and try to realize that we all know Him ....".from the least to the greatest".