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Goober

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I would suggest that people from both sides read this article.

U.S. worse than Europe

At a European conference on the sovereign-debt crises that I attended this week, my overwhelming conclusion, after listening to many experts, is that the U.S. is in far more trouble than Europe.

This was brought home by calculations presented by Larry Kotlikoff of Boston University at a lecture held at the International Institute of Public Finance, the biggest gathering of public-finance experts in the world. Greece may be bankrupt, but the U.S. looks like a giant Ponzi scheme.

Kotlikoff's calculations show that U.S. unfunded liabilities total US$222-trillion, the highest of all major OECD countries (12% of the time value of U.S. GDP) once accounting for monetary public debt, Social Security deficits and public-health-care unfunded liabilities. One can quibble with some of the calculations, but no one can doubt that the U.S. is in serious fiscal trouble, more so than any other developed economy.

And this as well. Obamacare
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...-and-the-gops-cynical-efforts-to-preserve-it/
 

JaneBlonde

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Foo Fighters playing DNC. Dave Grohl is also sometimes in Queens of the Stone Age, so Obama victory is ensured BY NASTY BOOGIE ROCK.
 

damngrumpy

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Hypocrites or not, the giant movement is beginning to stir and by the time its over
I still believe the Obama camp will win this thing. You know, in India every election
they predict the end of the Congress Party, and when the dust settles, Congress wins.

The difference is, the Democrats are going to be able to define the Republicans better
than the Republicans can. This thing is a long way from over, but Romney is the
Boogie Man and if they make that stick and the are doing a good job of it they will win.
 

Goober

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Hypocrites or not, the giant movement is beginning to stir and by the time its over
I still believe the Obama camp will win this thing. You know, in India every election
they predict the end of the Congress Party, and when the dust settles, Congress wins.

The difference is, the Democrats are going to be able to define the Republicans better
than the Republicans can. This thing is a long way from over, but Romney is the
Boogie Man and if they make that stick and the are doing a good job of it they will win.

Obama galvanized the Student and Black vote last election- Many African Americans - recession - have moved and are not listed on the Voters List- they found this out just recently- Big Duh on that one. Both of these groups are critical in some States that are neck and neck. And Obama is not a shoe in.
 

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The Old Dawg Still Can Hunt

Robert L. Borosage
President - Institute for America's Future

The old dawg can still hunt. At the top of his game, gaining energy from the crowd, Bill Clinton, the "old country boy from Arkansas," tore it up last night in Charlotte. Political junkies, pundits of all stripes and Democratic activists were agog, watching the maestro at work. Fox News talking heads were reduced to muttering that maybe voters got tired and changed the channel.

Clinton set out the frame (kudos to progressive economist Jared Bernstein): the choice between "you are on your own" or "we are in this together." And then he made the case for what Obama had accomplished -- and a crushing indictment of the poisons Romney Ryan are peddling.

Clinton treats his audience as adults, willing to entertain and inform. He pays them the respect of laying out policy arguments. And then delights them with his humor, his animation, his blarney.

He made the points -- repeatedly urging Americans to "listen to this" -- that too often are ignored. That Democratic presidents produce more jobs than Republicans and that modern Republican presidents "tripled the debt" in the twelve years before Clinton took office and doubled in the eight years after he left.

He went after Republicans not simply for abandoning the middle class but for traducing the poor. Perhaps the most telling point in his speech was his explanation that Republicans would reduce Medicaid by one-third -- hurting poor kids, seniors in need of nursing homes and the disabled. The middle class had a stake in the prospects of the poor. Here he was teaching Democrats how to argue this case.

He took the Romney/Ryan mendacities -- Obama made things worse, is cutting Medicare and gutting welfare reform -- and forged them into a club to pummel them with.

But note the contrast between Clinton's address and the powerful speech by Elizabeth Warren that preceded it. Warren reprised many of the same themes about investing in our future -- but she didn't stop there. She let Americans know what the problem was: that the system was rigged against them.

That rich and entrenched interests -- "Wall Street CEOs strutting in the halls of Congress" after we bailed them out -- rigged the game for their own benefit. They pushed through the tax breaks and deregulation -- much of it during the Clinton years when Goldman Sachs' Bob Rubin drove US economic policy. They cleaned up and the middle class took it on the chin. Reviving the American Dream takes more than the right policy, it requires taking back Washington and cleaning out the stables.

More at:

Robert L. Borosage: The Old Dawg Still Can Hunt
 

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Thought Police Patrol Convention’s Radio Row

Conservative talk-show hosts who came to Charlotte to interview political figures are furious. For the first time in anyone’s memory, Radio Row — the designated set of booths available to visiting talk-show hosts — has seen restrictions placed on its use by Team Obama.

DNC staffers at Radio Row will book leading Democrats for slots on conservative stations but then cancel the appearances an hour or so before broadcast “because you’re not our audience.”

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Thought Police Patrol Convention’s Radio Row - By John Fund - The Corner - National Review Online
 

Goober

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Thought Police Patrol Convention’s Radio Row

Conservative talk-show hosts who came to Charlotte to interview political figures are furious. For the first time in anyone’s memory, Radio Row — the designated set of booths available to visiting talk-show hosts — has seen restrictions placed on its use by Team Obama.

DNC staffers at Radio Row will book leading Democrats for slots on conservative stations but then cancel the appearances an hour or so before broadcast “because you’re not our audience.”

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Thought Police Patrol Convention’s Radio Row - By John Fund - The Corner - National Review Online

Controlling the message- Right from a Republican play book.

And the Repubs need some help.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...enly-targeted-by-us-attack-ad/article4524383/

Rep. Larry Howes & Rep. David Hancock aren’t telling the truth about Minnesota’s budget,” the ad said.

One big problem: it was accompanied with a photo of Dave Hancock, minister of human services with Alberta’s Progressive Conservative government.

Minnesota Public Radio first pointed out the oops last week, but on Thursday, Alberta’s Mr. Hancock turned to Twitter to respond.
 

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The impeached, pervert, adulterer, accused rapist, serial liar sure did speak for a long time nominating the Bamster.


Are you saying that Republicans aren't adulters and liars?

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Thought Police Patrol Convention’s Radio Row

Conservative talk-show hosts who came to Charlotte to interview political figures are furious. For the first time in anyone’s memory, Radio Row — the designated set of booths available to visiting talk-show hosts — has seen restrictions placed on its use by Team Obama.

DNC staffers at Radio Row will book leading Democrats for slots on conservative stations but then cancel the appearances an hour or so before broadcast “because you’re not our audience.”

more

Thought Police Patrol Convention’s Radio Row - By John Fund - The Corner - National Review Online

Wow. I thought that Conservative media were protected under the Consititution.
 

Goober

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Are you saying that Republicans aren't adulters and liars?

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Wow. I thought that Conservative media were protected under the Consititution.

Republicans- well some have the Angels on their side.
Oh yes- The Devil was a fallen angel.
 

JaneBlonde

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I NEED A DRINK. I didn't feel like working tonight so I spent about 2hrs reading 2,000 odd comments across 8 or 9 posts on the NBC, ABC, and FOX News pages about the DNC and RNC. Seeing as I do talk about politics here, I've always thought it was important for me to spend time reading the views and opinions of Joe citizen on larger pages so that I might get a better understanding of the landscape.

Dang, was I wrong! Allow me to summarize what I have learned this evening:

1. Obama sucks, he's a liar, and has destroyed the country. 2. Romney sucks, he's a liar, and will destroy the country.
3. It's all Bush's fault. He destroyed everything.
4. It's all Clinton's fault. He also lied about getting blowjobs so you can't trust him.
5. Purple tastes like happy.
 

Goober

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I NEED A DRINK. I didn't feel like working tonight so I spent about 2hrs reading 2,000 odd comments across 8 or 9 posts on the NBC, ABC, and FOX News pages about the DNC and RNC. Seeing as I do talk about politics here, I've always thought it was important for me to spend time reading the views and opinions of Joe citizen on larger pages so that I might get a better understanding of the landscape.

Dang, was I wrong! Allow me to summarize what I have learned this evening:

1. Obama sucks, he's a liar, and has destroyed the country. 2. Romney sucks, he's a liar, and will destroy the country.
3. It's all Bush's fault. He destroyed everything.
4. It's all Clinton's fault. He also lied about getting blowjobs so you can't trust him.
5. Purple tastes like happy.

That is an excellent digestion of the various commentary.
 

Mowich

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Well he's got my vote, again. ;-)

After having watched both Romney and now, Obama.......I have to say Obama wins hands down.

He has the ability to reach into the hearts of people and energize them with his words. He appeals to the good and the decent in his fellow citizens. He reminds them that they have a duty to the country they love, a duty of care for all.

There is a fundamental difference between these two parties. The Republican party as it is today is one based on entitlement and the belief that corporations need less regulation and the rich need more tax breaks. The Democratic party believes that it is the very people they represent who should be at the heart of government policies, and that it is the American people, who when given the chance will rebuild America. I agree with him.

The one thing I fault him for is calling Britain America's closest ally. :roll:






 

Kreskin

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Bill Clinton summed up everything pretty well. The Republican plan is a double-down on trickle down. The debt has to spike and everyone rely on pure speculation to see if it works.

Aside from that I could never vote for a party that is so full of phoney baloney religious gimmicks.