I guess that proves football players aren't waterheads*.
*except John Madden
Sports went to shit 40 years ago when murder ball became dodge ball.
Did The Bell Just Toll?
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*except John Madden
Sports went to shit 40 years ago when murder ball became dodge ball.
Thanks for your contribution.
Hard to say. They certainly haven't had a moment like a high-skilled player and undisputed genius retiring.
Madden that clown. Commenting that Brady should just take a knee and go to overtime against St. Louis in the Super Bowl.
This year I caught a bit of a Pittsburgh game in the finals and I saw Sidney Crosby, their star player and one prone to concussions since 2011 get cross checked across the front of the head/ helmet and later in the same game he ended up falling head first into the boards behind the net.
Scary stuff and he did finish the series but I wonder if he will play again.
From 2011
The Pittsburgh Penguins finally acknowledged what has seemed obvious for weeks: Sidney Crosby is having concussion symptoms.
Crosby is exercising lightly, much as he did during his nearly 11-month concussion layoff earlier this year, and there is no timetable for his return. It is almost the same scenario the Penguins have dealt with for nearly a year, except for the brief two-week window in which Crosby returned earlier this season.
Sidney Crosby still feeling concussion symptoms - NHL on CBC Sports - Hockey news, opinion, scores, stats, standings
mullah
He's from the IFL
Iranian Football League ... hand cut off for clipping ... and eye gouged out for Illegal Procedure ... stoning for
Leverage ...
He's from the IFL
Iranian Football League ... hand cut off for clipping ... and eye gouged out for Illegal Procedure ... stoning for
Leverage ...
Back in 2013 when I posted the following comments on CTE, I did indeed believe it had the potential to be extremely harmful and life-altering for those suffering from it.
League of Denial: The NFL's Concussion Crisis
Oct 9th, 2013
I never thought I would ever question my love of football but after watching this program last night, I am now. The instances of CTE - Concussive Traumatic Encephalopathy in the brains of former football players as young as 18 years of age, is not to be taken lightly considering the appalling effects of the disease on the players and their families.
There is as yet no way of determining whether or not a player will succumb to the disease but the instances of it having been found in the brains of over 80 former NFL players is without question. How many others there may be walking around with this potential time bomb ticking away in their head will only be answered after their deaths and if their brains are then scanned for the disease.
Matt Dunigan has become an outspoken proponent of CTE research having suffered multiple concussions during his career and is admittedly dealing with the long terms effects on a daily basis. Mark Cohon - our CFL commish - has also taken a proactive approach to traumatic head injuries instituting new rules designed to protect players, fines and/or suspensions to players stepping over the line and a program of continuing education about concussions.
You were well ahead of the rest of us.
But I think this may be a watershed moment. As I said, the undeniable brilliance and real-world, in-the-trenches experience of John Urschel gives him enormous credibility.
He has not yet said exactly why he decided to quit, but he has in the past written very eloquently about the CTE dilemma in The Players Tribune. When he is ready to speak at length about his decision, I expect that what he says will lead the debate.
If it's of interest, here's his essay in The Players Tribune:
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/why-i-play-football/
Thanks for this, Tec.........will read it right now.
"Simply put, right now, not playing football isn’t an option for me. And for that reason, I truly envy Chris Borland."
It would not surprise me in the least to find that many players share these sentiments, Tec. They may indeed realize the danger to their long-term mental health but love of the game and the desire to play will keep them returning to the turf game after game. And, being the hypocrite I am, I will still keep tuning into to watch them because I just can't not watch.
I think it's setting in on Dunnigan. Last night he said BC special teams were in the top 10 in the league.
With 9 teams in the league...
With 9 teams in the league...
Someone speculated, pretty smart I think, that Urschel had two loves: math and football. Now he has two more: his fiancee and their coming child. This person speculated that football was "worth it" when balanced against his other love, but not now that it's balanced against three other loves.
In industry we have known that for decades. Also compression of the spine from a knock on the noodle. The same applies to any motorized sports.It is much like the shaken baby syndrome except an adult brain can take banging around before it is fatal.
I would sincerely love to hear industry's input on this. What do you think? Any ideas on how we can change "hitting" sports to make them safer?
The National Institute of Health and the NFL are ending their partnership, specifically the study of concussions, effective in August. The league and the NIH have long been at odds, as the NIH has conducted numerous studies into the effects of football on the long-term health of the athletes. The two sides have had a stormy relationship since its inception in 2012, as the nature of their agreement revolved around showcasing the negative aspects of the league while attempting to aid those aspects.
In what was initially a $30 million pledge to the NIH from the NFL, $16 million has gone unspent. According to ESPN's Mark Fainaru-Wada and Steve Fainaru, the NIH has decided to let the agreement dissolve without renewal due to a 2015 conflict where "the NFL backed out of a major study that had been awarded to a researcher who had been critical of the league."
Of the failure to renew, the NIH released the following statement via ESPN
"The NFL's agreement with [the funding arm of the NIH] ends August 31, 2017, and there are no current research plans for the funds remaining from the original $30 million NFL commitment."
This news comes on the heels of a recent study that found brain damage in 110 out of 111 ex-NFL players, including a kicker and a punter, positions that were previously thought "safe." It is also a mere two days after commissioner Roger Goodell responded to a letter from House members inquiring on if the NFL would honor its commitment of $18 million in funding to the NIH. The league responded that "We are currently engaged in constructive discussions with the [Foundation for the National Institutes of Health] regarding potential new research projects and the remaining funds of our $30 million commitment," in a written letter through a spokesman.
The letter continued to say that "In September 2016, the NFL pledged $100 million in support for independent medical research and engineering advancements in neuroscience-related topics. This is in addition to the $100 million that the NFL and its partners are already spending on medical and neuroscience research."
It would appear that the constructiveness of the discussions was a point of contention between the league and the NIH. In a previous Congressional study, it was reported by the New York Times that the NFL was attempting to influence the results of the NIH's findings. "[Congress's] investigation has shown that while the NFL had been publicly proclaiming its role as the founder and accelerator of important research, it was privately attempting to influence that research," the study said. "The NFL attempted to use its 'unrestricted gift' as leverage to steer funding away from critics."
In what was initially a $30 million pledge to the NIH from the NFL, $16 million has gone unspent. According to ESPN's Mark Fainaru-Wada and Steve Fainaru, the NIH has decided to let the agreement dissolve without renewal due to a 2015 conflict where "the NFL backed out of a major study that had been awarded to a researcher who had been critical of the league."
Of the failure to renew, the NIH released the following statement via ESPN
"The NFL's agreement with [the funding arm of the NIH] ends August 31, 2017, and there are no current research plans for the funds remaining from the original $30 million NFL commitment."
This news comes on the heels of a recent study that found brain damage in 110 out of 111 ex-NFL players, including a kicker and a punter, positions that were previously thought "safe." It is also a mere two days after commissioner Roger Goodell responded to a letter from House members inquiring on if the NFL would honor its commitment of $18 million in funding to the NIH. The league responded that "We are currently engaged in constructive discussions with the [Foundation for the National Institutes of Health] regarding potential new research projects and the remaining funds of our $30 million commitment," in a written letter through a spokesman.
The letter continued to say that "In September 2016, the NFL pledged $100 million in support for independent medical research and engineering advancements in neuroscience-related topics. This is in addition to the $100 million that the NFL and its partners are already spending on medical and neuroscience research."
It would appear that the constructiveness of the discussions was a point of contention between the league and the NIH. In a previous Congressional study, it was reported by the New York Times that the NFL was attempting to influence the results of the NIH's findings. "[Congress's] investigation has shown that while the NFL had been publicly proclaiming its role as the founder and accelerator of important research, it was privately attempting to influence that research," the study said. "The NFL attempted to use its 'unrestricted gift' as leverage to steer funding away from critics."
I've noticed a few boo-boos from Matt in the past couple of years, pete. I thought he got a bit carried away last night when the panel was discussing the upcoming game, speaking very loudly and not giving Rod or Jock a chance to enter the conversation. At one point, Jock just sat back with a rather whimsical look on his face and let him go until they turned it over to the on-field crew. He was noticeably calmer when it came back to the panel.
The NFL - most especially that arrogant twit at the helm - has no interest in furthering discussions or studies on the subject, no matter what they proclaim. They have been nothing but obstructive from the beginning and have actively worked to discredit valid research into CTE. Don't expect anything to change from the The League of Denial.