Describe the United States in a sentence.

Daz_Hockey

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I think you might have a point there shortman...the two most evil words in the english language: what if
 

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shortmanx5 said:
after reading most of Daz_Hockey's statements i figured out what is wrong with you its jealously. what would the world be like if the best didnt let it be known whos the boss. when england had some power they did the same thing then the poeple that broke away from you saved your asses in wwII. just be happy you dont speak german or russian, cuz without the usa thats what would have happened to your little island.

There were other countries that participated in WWII shortman, the stereotypical American attitude you have brought with you to this board does very little to promote common sense and a fair knowledge of history. Do us both a favor and STFU.
 

Daz_Hockey

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plus...I've had time to read that post now....I take your points, but it's been proven that germany would not have beaten britain in the end anyway....



AND IT IS YOU WHO SHOULD THANK BRITAIN FOR LEAVING YOU ALONE FOR 2 HUNDRED YEARS.....and stopping the french from taking ur land...now stop throwing those stereotypical insults, cus they are not based in fact
 

Daz_Hockey

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you dont need to give me ontario, thats urs, I have nothing against canada, what I do have issues with is this "we saved your asses" malaki when we all know it is clearly untrue and discredits all the other countries who fought for us in that particular conflict...like canada for example
 

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I agree, also there are days that I could scream with frustration with all the Anti Bush shit. Who did the world blame before JW?
 

Daz_Hockey

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wasnt it us?......Mugabe's still going on about it "the british empire this, and the british empire that"...the man should give it a rest, lets face it, it's always the leader of the worlds most powerful nation who gets the blame...and if he happens to be an inbread nepotism-loving idiot....more the better....oh cant you just see those Bush/english royal family roots eh?
 

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Well we could annoint them and put them in with the Royal Cactus line. Gotta have a flower. Now we can re-write History, and that offer of Ontario is still on the table.
 

Daz_Hockey

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we could get him to stake a claim at the royal crown (god no) and the bushes could unite canada with the us and the uk lol

what's ontario's motto again?...it's latin, summit like: "loyal we were found, loyal we remain" so they wouldnt need that much convincing, proper anglophiles there
 

Daz_Hockey

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I was happy....honest, so it never ticks canadians off when *they say stuff like that then?
 

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OK, call me crazy, but I thought it was a forgone conclution that without American intervention in WWII, the UK more than likely would have been toast....
 

Daz_Hockey

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no, the battle of britain was already won, they couldnt beat us in the air, they most definatly couldnt beat us in the sea...how was it a fore-gone conclusion?....supplies were running a bit low, but the russian convoys would have kept us going as well as the stuff sent from canada and the rest of the commonwealth.

it's a proven myth...it would have dragged on for years, but the fact is also that Hitler was the biggest anglophile in the world....I am afraid you have fallen foul of a common mistake
 

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It's entirely a myth Daz, you know full well Churchill was getting supplies from the US. And Roosevelt had to find a way to ship everything to England as "surplus".
 

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I was always under that impression. You learn something new each day, I guess.
 

Daz_Hockey

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yes I know this, but if they could not beat us in the air, or the sea, and with an anglophile hitler, do you honestly believe it was solely the us who saved everyone?...come on admit it
 

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Daz_Hockey said:
yes I know this, but if they could not beat us in the air, or the sea, and with an anglophile hitler, do you honestly believe it was solely the us who saved everyone?...come on admit it

:?

Dude, he was bombing the bejesus out of you guys. What Anglophile Hitler? You mean their were sympathizers within England to make peace with Hitler, NOT the other way around.
 

Daz_Hockey

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nah, I dont mean to infuriate you anymore.....but, check out Dunkirk, he stopped 15 miles from it to allow us to get out, read Mein Kampf, he outlines his ideas for an allience with the british, he was very much an anglophile, sent Hess to make peace, and if that failed "call him mad", he was bombing the crap out of us yes......but he knew realistically beating us was a non-starter...(have you seen the plans for operation seelion?...half hearted at best).

No, he bombed us because of Churchill's refusal to make peace, now I'm not saying that was wrong of churchill cus it wasn't...but if you look at the facts....Hitler found himself in the wrong war...sure he wanted to beat the french....no doubt, and as allies to the french he knew we'd hve to stick by them.

but do you honestly think that half hearted air attack against us was an attempt to beat us?....no it was basically saying "if you dont side with me, we'll continue to do this"....he knew he could not hope to beat us, while your reconditioned ships were of use, and your men without a doubt sped up the end of the war......check the facts, he'd already bit off more than he could chew in the middle of the battle of britain going to war with russia, who in the end would have beaten him.

And do you honestly think with the troops needed for the russian front he could spare any for an invasion of britain?....come on face facts, it had less to do with the US than you give yourselfs credit for, yes you came over, brough a HUGE amount of men, and yes it did help.(not until you started listening to us though....check your first battles in the african campaign, you got your ASSES WHOOPED) numbers are nothing if you do not have a plan.

and basically, you provided the means to take the war to the enemy, nothing more, we were most certainly NOT dead in the water and it amazes me you seriously entertain that thought.

and yes Hitler was an Anglophile...he was OBSESSED with the mighty british empire.....he always wanted peace with us, he knew this was impossible so he performed a half hearted face saving excersize.
 

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RE: Describe the United S

As someone who has lived between two empires since I was incorporated I am more than familiar with both schools of bullshit and all the various flavours, everyone knows that Canada single handedly won the second world war.
 

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Daz_Hockey is right about Hitler being an Anglophile,
and Churchill's books on World War II condensed into
a huge 2-volume set for Time-Life Magazine back in the
1960s are a real eye-opener on how little America
took the brunt and burden of WWII when you look at
the stats on dead and wounded soldiers.

Daz_Hockey is also right that America was a means, a logistical strength, but certainly not the leader nor the main holder of the burdens, but definitely an invigorating lending lease hand, for we had the real
brunt of a 2-front war with other anglo countries
helping.

Only recently have we seen several movies about
the Russian side of the war, one on Stalingrad snipers
showing Kruschev as one of the lead Generals there.