Daz_Hockey i cant believe the bs that comes out of your mouth, at first he didnt bite offf more than he could chew because england was losing and was not a huge threat. It was only until the usa came did you stand a chance of an invasion of france. With out the usa england would have just kept on getting bombed and then an invasion would have come or surrerner because of all the bombing. The navy was all the brits had going for them in wwII and still it wasnt all that good.
Describe the United States in a sentence.
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it would have been germany fighting the russians and the german airforce just bombin the hell out of london and etc
I won't shortchange America's role in the outcome
of World War II, but the details of what Daz_Hockey
has posted are accurate.
of World War II, but the details of what Daz_Hockey
has posted are accurate.
RE: Describe the United S
yes but I think you'll find we would not have lost it......and as for the BS remark....check your facts....it's possible to surmise that russia would have taken the whole of germany and mybe upto france.
I am not belittling your (the US's) involvement in the war, quite on the contrary, but my country has had to put up with ppl like shortmanx saying that we would have capitulated....actually just like Joseph Kennedy....what an arsehole he was, according to him, and most of the US foreign embassy we were already dead before you came along.
Darkbeaver has a point actually, it was the commonwealth forces like canada flying in the spitfires who defeated the germans in the air, before america got involved.
LOOK, I'M NOT SAYING AMERICA DIDNT PROVIDE THE MAN POWER......but it is a FACT not BS....Britain would have allied themselves with russia, as they had already started to and germany would have been defeated in maybe 8 years, they were running out of steam in the middle of the battle of britain.
see sense man, just cus your an american, you dont have to get on this stereotypical "america won the war" BS bandwagon...because as jimmoyer points out, the evidence disproves it....but I do think russia would have over run germany in the end, if it wasnt for Stalin's incompatency, theyd have beaten them sooner.
please do not take that standard attitude anymore cus it's been proven otherwise
yes but I think you'll find we would not have lost it......and as for the BS remark....check your facts....it's possible to surmise that russia would have taken the whole of germany and mybe upto france.
I am not belittling your (the US's) involvement in the war, quite on the contrary, but my country has had to put up with ppl like shortmanx saying that we would have capitulated....actually just like Joseph Kennedy....what an arsehole he was, according to him, and most of the US foreign embassy we were already dead before you came along.
Darkbeaver has a point actually, it was the commonwealth forces like canada flying in the spitfires who defeated the germans in the air, before america got involved.
LOOK, I'M NOT SAYING AMERICA DIDNT PROVIDE THE MAN POWER......but it is a FACT not BS....Britain would have allied themselves with russia, as they had already started to and germany would have been defeated in maybe 8 years, they were running out of steam in the middle of the battle of britain.
see sense man, just cus your an american, you dont have to get on this stereotypical "america won the war" BS bandwagon...because as jimmoyer points out, the evidence disproves it....but I do think russia would have over run germany in the end, if it wasnt for Stalin's incompatency, theyd have beaten them sooner.
please do not take that standard attitude anymore cus it's been proven otherwise
Its not proven otherwise, thats your bias opinion. You cant be serious that canada saved britian, i know its hard to admit that we helped save your country.the facts are that you were losing before we joined and after we joined the war was won in 4 years. thats the facts, another fact is that the brit had half as many planes as the germans, but thye raf did hold them back. But how long do you think that would have lasted, britian would have lost if we didnt join just admit it. No one wants to admit it but its the truth. Russia couldnt have beaten germany by themselves. the reason they lost was because they fought a 2 front war and without the usa there would have only been the eastern front. becuase you are kidding yourself if you believe britian could have opened the western front without the usa. Germany would have won the war as it not for the usa and russia. those are the major players that finish up the war. without eiether of those countries you wouldnt have one. Your navy wasnt as awesome as you think, the brits havent had the worlds best navy in some 70 years maybe more, so dont act like the navy was going to save your ass. the japs had a better navy at the time than the brits.
your kidding yourself if you believe all the usa brought was man power. how about production power, you wouldnt have been able to keep fighting the war had it not been for the usa getting money and supplies to you. england didnt have the production power to win the war, one reason we won is becuase we could build more ships than they could sink.
what tank did britian use the most during wwII, i believe it was the american sherman tank. question what would you have fought with was it not for the usa
RE: Describe the United S
you simply cannot win a war by air power alone....and what else did they have?
our navy would have kicked the crap out of any attempt to land on our island.....and please stop using that "england" would have been bombed rubbish, scotland got it too..
also, one point that has to be made about America's god-almighty heaven sent role in ww2.....who exactly funded the irish militants who kept their lights on at night so the nazi's knew where to bomb on the the west coast eh?
IRISH AMERICAN'S.....and general AMERICAN symperphises, so what they giveth, they taketh away too...this is the double edged sword that britain has had to live with about america...that while America professes to being our ally in our time of need, where were a lot of powerful americans when we were being bomb by TERRORISTS for over 30 years?.....funding them through Shinn Fein rallies thats where....example a. the Kennedys
you simply cannot win a war by air power alone....and what else did they have?
our navy would have kicked the crap out of any attempt to land on our island.....and please stop using that "england" would have been bombed rubbish, scotland got it too..
also, one point that has to be made about America's god-almighty heaven sent role in ww2.....who exactly funded the irish militants who kept their lights on at night so the nazi's knew where to bomb on the the west coast eh?
IRISH AMERICAN'S.....and general AMERICAN symperphises, so what they giveth, they taketh away too...this is the double edged sword that britain has had to live with about america...that while America professes to being our ally in our time of need, where were a lot of powerful americans when we were being bomb by TERRORISTS for over 30 years?.....funding them through Shinn Fein rallies thats where....example a. the Kennedys
RE: Describe the United S
Britains naval power was also fighting in 2 feilds of conflict as well....or do you forget this?...our navy was larger than japans, we should know, it was modelled after ours....funny they sided with us until we sided with you, so who's to blame for our involvment in that conflict?.
no, it is not my bias...these are facts....dont belittle my country with quotes like that, the german's were by no means as powerful as you describe, it was only because of Stalin's purges that THEY didnt whoop germany's ass right away anyway, and the fact that BRITAIN ALONE were supplying the russians has escaped your notice too?
no, unless germany came up with a superwepon like an A-bomb within the next few years, which clearly they wouldnt have...russia would have beaten them and to state otherwise is to insult my country, the other Anglo countries then(which encompass the british empire and dont forget it then) and also Russia, but that wouldnt be an un-stereotypical world view of what america thinks anyways.
Britains naval power was also fighting in 2 feilds of conflict as well....or do you forget this?...our navy was larger than japans, we should know, it was modelled after ours....funny they sided with us until we sided with you, so who's to blame for our involvment in that conflict?.
no, it is not my bias...these are facts....dont belittle my country with quotes like that, the german's were by no means as powerful as you describe, it was only because of Stalin's purges that THEY didnt whoop germany's ass right away anyway, and the fact that BRITAIN ALONE were supplying the russians has escaped your notice too?
no, unless germany came up with a superwepon like an A-bomb within the next few years, which clearly they wouldnt have...russia would have beaten them and to state otherwise is to insult my country, the other Anglo countries then(which encompass the british empire and dont forget it then) and also Russia, but that wouldnt be an un-stereotypical world view of what america thinks anyways.
Daz_Hockey
Hitler's biggest mistake was opening the second front in Russia, where he got his ass kicked. The Germans couldn't even provide soldiers on the Russian front with warm clothing. There was no way the Germans could have made a landing on British soil. The British navy would have ripped them to shreds. Canada's military was growing exponentially and by D-day, we had the third largest navy and our military had a million men and women in uniform. If the Americans had stayed out of the war like they did for the first two years or so, the war would have lasted longer but the results would have been basically the same. Ships and aircraft were already being built by the thousands in Canada. I won't even mention the number of air crews that were trained in Canada.
Hitler's biggest mistake was opening the second front in Russia, where he got his ass kicked. The Germans couldn't even provide soldiers on the Russian front with warm clothing. There was no way the Germans could have made a landing on British soil. The British navy would have ripped them to shreds. Canada's military was growing exponentially and by D-day, we had the third largest navy and our military had a million men and women in uniform. If the Americans had stayed out of the war like they did for the first two years or so, the war would have lasted longer but the results would have been basically the same. Ships and aircraft were already being built by the thousands in Canada. I won't even mention the number of air crews that were trained in Canada.
RE: Describe the United S
yes, I completely agree, and I appologise for my long winded effort there, but effectivly as you say, as soon as Hitler went to war with Russia, after again, losing to the commonwealth's forces, there was no chance Germany could have won and the results would hve been the same, America was stirring for trouble against the japanese though, I think effectly that cost a lot of commonwealth troops lives as well because (even with hindsight it was a bad idea) we were allied to Japan and they would not have gone to war with us if it had not been for america.
yes, I completely agree, and I appologise for my long winded effort there, but effectivly as you say, as soon as Hitler went to war with Russia, after again, losing to the commonwealth's forces, there was no chance Germany could have won and the results would hve been the same, America was stirring for trouble against the japanese though, I think effectly that cost a lot of commonwealth troops lives as well because (even with hindsight it was a bad idea) we were allied to Japan and they would not have gone to war with us if it had not been for america.
Too funny, I wish you luck with that request Blackleaf. Thanks for all the cool threads you post. Cheers.
RE: Describe the United S
I think America should have a look at Canada, believe it or not, I think they have a larger population of middle-easten asians than we have, and they dont have too much trouble.
I'm probably gonna get had ago at by another American now because I said that,a nd anything I say must be wrong
I think America should have a look at Canada, believe it or not, I think they have a larger population of middle-easten asians than we have, and they dont have too much trouble.
I'm probably gonna get had ago at by another American now because I said that,a nd anything I say must be wrong
Don't have over NORAID members to the British, and the British won't hand over those Islamic terrorists, wanted by the US but are in Britain, to the Americans. If Americans fund Irish terrorists to bomb the British, then why should we hand over Islamist terrorists?
No amount of threatening by the Americans will change our minds.
No amount of threatening by the Americans will change our minds.
I will hand over Ontario to you Blackleaf, a formal thankyou from Canada. Remember Daz you turned that down that province.
RE: Describe the United S
it's a world perspective blackleaf, they'll never change, to many americans I know, terrorism started on 11/9 (yeah 11/9).....they dont care about our problems, they really dont.
to them we are the ones in the wrong there, even though this problem with ireland has exsisted over a thousand years longer than america has been about and god-knows who started it...you wont change a lot of their minds, it boils down to not thinking beyound ur borders...ohhhh I feel the insults flying at me already
it's a world perspective blackleaf, they'll never change, to many americans I know, terrorism started on 11/9 (yeah 11/9).....they dont care about our problems, they really dont.
to them we are the ones in the wrong there, even though this problem with ireland has exsisted over a thousand years longer than america has been about and god-knows who started it...you wont change a lot of their minds, it boils down to not thinking beyound ur borders...ohhhh I feel the insults flying at me already