Okay, pilgrim, read this:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000D4FEC-7D5B-1D07-8E49809EC588EEDF
You obviously have no clue as to what evolution is.
Your turn, please provide proof that your christ existed. I mean scientific proof, not hearsay from the book of myths (the holey babble).
BTW, what is an applaudisement? Clapping on concrete?
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Well Project Man,That is a big project that you are suggesting . If you are seeking a finit definition of god ,you can find it in a dictionary. But my advice is to ask directly, straight from the man , go and get the "in-finite answer".That could be your next project.
This could not be accomplished until death and only then would one truely know.
" then would one truely know.".......
China: Ahh,so you've bin there ,just joking .I would suggest dying to the past every moment,be dead just as the past is dead , not waiting for your body to die .
It seems to me that the right minded people are only those who don't believe in anything at all.It seems that most right minded people in this thread agree in one way or the other God is a construct of the human mind.
Why should I? Someone expressed their thoughts like LGilberts, who is probably more reputable than those who don't match your opinion, and the rest should just say: "yeah, that's right, it's very true". I am telling you what I believe, and that I don't believe in evolution, can you prove me wrong, and just prove it to me with definite facts, undoubtfull evidence sort of facts, how else can I question it, a check mate with no opposing theory, but facts only, you know???Don't beleive in evololution? WTF? Where did all that stuff come from? <see LGilberts link above>
Well, this is probably really good post, but what if someone disagrees, would you say they are narrow minded?Quote from Vereya: Well, since we live in a tangible world, and not in a myhtological one, I'd say that the framework in which we function is very much tangible, too. And as for the framer... You know, my idea of God and Gods is that Gods are the off-spring of the great creative power that has created the whole universe. They are not Creators themselves. And that power is even greater than the Gods. What that power is, I don't know yet. Most likely, I never will.
This is the most sensible things writen inthis thread, and it was on page 2.
I didn't think Earth was created when the bible was written, please SHOW me one of my phrases where I said that, or even had a smallest tiniest hint to mean to say that? WHERE?As a final statement. If you think the Earth was created when the bible was writen you are sadly mistaken. As a matter of my opinion, if you think the bible or religion has anything to do with God that's another big mistake because like God the binle is a human consruct but with the purpose of control and power.
What is BTW anyway? Applaudisements = applause, my translation was wrong.P.S. BTW, what is an applaudisement? Clapping on concrete? ROFL Gil.
I cited just that little bit of your response in order to justify this: I find your response utterly incoherent, I have no idea how to respond. "I don't that though" for instance. There's at least one word missing from that clause, and I haven't a clue what it is or what you mean. And "...I want to hear different answers. Can you???" Can I what? You've lost me entirely.
Oh, believe me, I am not as authoritarian as you think, am expressing my opinion tooWell I never said anyone was wrong but stated my opinion. L Gilbert linked to a fact based page supporting evolution. You seem to think anyone that diagrees with you is wrong. That is OK you are welcome to voice your opinion just don't expect me to bend to yours. It is a two way street.
P.S. Yes I know it was to be aplause, no offense intended, I just liked L gilbert play on words.
Oh, believe me, I am not as authoritarian as you think, am expressing my opinion tooI seem to think that everyone disagrees with my opinion never give me any answers for my question but only accuse me in my believes, that's all I see so far.
Thank you for your hospitality anyway, I am glad I am welcomed.
And even more futile vice versa :clock:I guess in a form call, Spirituality and Philosophy all we have is our opinions as I haven't seen a definitive answer to The Project Man's topic, Define God.
Maybe this is a futile task.
God is simply a trust that you make in something or I would say super natural power and as PsyOp said God is two being, a men a women, its been wrote in the first page of the bible, very much correct and now about the incident , have seen a man who did not had anything from last 80 years not even a single drop of water or food and he was recently on TV on STAR... so whats that no saying that he is god but somthing unusal
Now we need to know if the bible was a hoax or a book wroted by the hand of god. It was for sure wrote by the hand of mens, but control by god. Propaganda expert appear to be agree, Jesus story was not a hoax.
But don't expect him to help you, you are just one of hes slave. :|
And as he wrote in the bible, nobody go in heaven but the one that come from it.
(this probaly explain the religious-RICH behaviour.) :evil3:
This also mean that someone will leave heaven to then GO BACK IN HEAVEN.
I don't think its Jesus, i think Jesus was just another godsend like Jeanne d'arc.
Now we need to know if the bible was a hoax or a book wroted by the hand of god. It was for sure wrote by the hand of mens, but control by god. Propaganda expert appear to be agree, Jesus story was not a hoax.
Show me your friends, and I can tell you who you are by your friends.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Perhaps you are familiar with the ontological proof of Gods existence by the medieval writter circa 1200 ad--------- St anselm
I wont re-iterate it , but I will provide you with the counter-argument. One can prove that God does not exist by appyling a few lines of philosophical logic.
1) God by defination is the greatest being which can be conceived.
2) God is the creator of the universe.
3) The greatness of this monumental task is inversely proportional to the " handicap " of the creator ie
for a weaker god to have created the universe is certainly more impressive than for a stronger god to have done so
4) The most compromised position from which god could have created the universe is that he totally lacks existence.
ie. the most amazing superlative act of greatness would have been for a nonexistent god to have created the universe.
5) Therefore god does not exist.
there you have it!
It's physically impossible for a person to last much longer than 3 or 4 days without water. I don't care how much spirit they have, without food and with water they'd be toast within a few weeks.
God is the good that comes out of us!
We are defining God or self everyday.
The more good, the less of: self.
The more self, the less of: God
What are the perimeters?
Well, the tree says it all. I mean the tree of knowledge of: Good and evil.
If it weren’t for evil side of the tree, there would be good, but how good is good?
Without good on the other side of evil, how evil is evil?
So, it is the measure of a man that defines his god.
He is measured, judged by what he does.
If good, then he has somewhat mastered a victory over evil, but must not relent.
If evil: either he has not learned to do good: knows to do good but chooses not to, or lives all for self.
That is how God is defined: by our actions.
Show me your friends, and I can tell you who you are by your friends.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
God is poop?:laughing7::laughing7::waveoop creates plants, plants create mankind, mankinds poops the sacred cycle begins anew.:wave::wave: