Defeating terrorists without wars

[moghrabi]

Poisonous Misinterpretations

Professor Pape says that while al-Qaeda terrorists are twice as likely to be from a country where radical Salafist/Wahhabist Islam is widely practiced, they are 10 times more likely to have come from a country that has U.S. troops stationed in it. In most cases, this foreign military presence is not hostile in a traditional sense, since the local governments have agreed to their stay. But according to a Saudi poll after 9/11, 95 percent of educated Saudi males between the ages of 25 and 41 agreed with bin Laden's goal of driving Americans off their holy land.

No suicide bombers have ever come from Iran, where there are no foreign troops. Iraq had never seen a suicide bombing on its soil before U.S. troops arrived in 2003. While Ayatollah Khomeini spent the 1980s criticizing American culture, many people agreed, but none resorted to suicide bombing. When bin Laden cited U.S. forces in the land of Mecca and Medina, men hopped on planes with knives.

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/horton.php?articleid=6720

 

[peapod]

Yes I did morg, but I also felt that think had every right to say what he did when people begin talking about invading his country and replacing their leader, isn't that what we have been bitching about bush doing in iraq? This is starting to be like the twlight zone 8O

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: Defeating terrorists

Good at least you see something. You have been acting blind all this time.

Not really, I just figured you may step back once in a while and see a bigger picture, but doesn't appear to be happening.

 

[moghrabi]

Yes I did morg, but I also felt that think had every right to say what he did when people begin talking about invading his country and replacing their leader, isn't that what we have been bitching about bush doing in iraq? This is starting to be like the twlight zone 8O

I never mentioned anything about invading his country. i beg with you to find where i stated that. I apologize if i did but I didn't.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

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I absolutely agree. He has broken so many laws , that would qualif y him for trial. But in the American arrogance, they really don't think it will happen because they think they can "get away with it"

Maybe some one (the world) should do a regime change in the US ......as obviously the population isn't able to do it themselves now. Their own leader has far too much power. and will lie/cheat to maintain that power.

Well hey you can always try.

and that is exactly what I mean about the arrogance of "getting away with it....."

You make a childish comment you get a childish comment.

yep, ain't that just the "American way".??? :roll: oh well.

Not to worry , no one has intentions of a regime change in the US....... as there is increased confidence, if the US does not change its ways....it will simply continue to deteriorate from the inside and with the debt they are in..... it is still unforseen how things will end up. Enjoy your false glory while you have it. It will end ,just as other empires did. That is the self destructive nature of empires and empire building. In the meantime......Do try and stay away from the war room......as I think there have been too many now and they have caused far too much world turbulence.

 

[moghrabi]

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Good at least you see something. You have been acting blind all this time.

Not really, I just figured you may step back once in a while and see a bigger picture, but doesn't appear to be happening.

Shouldn't be you that must look at the big picture. I posted something that you should read. That should give you an isnsight.

 

[peapod]

Hey, just my 2 cents, take or leave it...I guess after while all the hate gets to you :? :? Think I will go smell some flowers now, ta ta come out swinging on the count of three....one...two...

 

[Ocean Breeze]

when people begin talking about invading his country and replacing their leader, isn't that what we have been bitching about bush doing in iraq?

I brought it up.....metaphorically only......not to be taken literally. Shoulda known better. My bad. Apologies....

 

[I think not]

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yep, ain't that just the "American way".??? :roll: oh well.

Not to worry , no one has intentions of a regime change in the US....... as there is increased confidence, if the US does not change its ways....it will simply continue to deteriorate from the inside and with the debt they are in..... it is still unforseen how things will end up. Enjoy your false glory while you have it. It will end ,just as other empires did. That is the self destructive nature of empires and empire building. In the meantime......Do try and stay away from the war room......as I think there have been too many now and they have caused far too much world turbulence.

Actually we don't believe we have an empire, those are your perceptions. GWB is a blip in time, he's a screwball in my opinion but nothing I can do about it. As for your prophecies, many before you and many after you have said and will say the same. If it happens it happens, I'm not going to worry about it as much as you are hoping for it.

 

[peapod]

Thats very big of you ocean, I know you did not really mean it literally, but you can see how it might get americans upset...okay everyone...

*group hug*
There are far easier ways to flip think out...bwhahahahhahaha...just kidding, honest

Well now, I will all drink to all your good health, I'm off to sample the new green tea frappachinos at starbucks.

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: Defeating terrorists

Good at least you see something. You have been acting blind all this time.

Not really, I just figured you may step back once in a while and see a bigger picture, but doesn't appear to be happening.

Shouldn't be you that must look at the big picture. I posted something that you should read. That should give you an isnsight.

I read everything you post.

 

[moghrabi]

RE: Defeating terrorists

Enjoy it while i flip ITN out.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: RE: Defeating terrorists without wars

yep, ain't that just the "American way".??? :roll: oh well.

Not to worry , no one has intentions of a regime change in the US....... as there is increased confidence, if the US does not change its ways....it will simply continue to deteriorate from the inside and with the debt they are in..... it is still unforseen how things will end up. Enjoy your false glory while you have it. It will end ,just as other empires did. That is the self destructive nature of empires and empire building. In the meantime......Do try and stay away from the war room......as I think there have been too many now and they have caused far too much world turbulence.

Actually we don't believe we have an empire, those are your perceptions. GWB is a blip in time, he's a screwball in my opinion but nothing I can do about it. As for your prophecies, many before you and many after you have said and will say the same. If it happens it happens, I'm not going to worry about it as much as you are hoping for it.

Will thank you kindly NOT to TELL me what I am hoping for or how I feel about anything. ( when will the USers stop TELLING others what to do, what to think and how to think ???? Sheesh. ) Amazing how you can minimize the bush factor as a blip in time when he has already caused this much damage for the US and in the world at large. The after effects of this blip might last some time post his departure. Interesting that you are not concerned. each to his own.

Now, what is the US next NON MILITARY move in dealing with the terrorist issue??? How will it account for other nations being attacked because they are involved with the US?Iraq equation??? Will it just "ignore" it , in it's usual arrogant style?? (while spewing insincere , shallow platitudes???)

 

[I think not]

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Will thank you kindly NOT to TELL me what I am hoping for or how I feel about anything. ( when will the USers stop TELLING others what to do, what to think and how to think ???? Sheesh. )

And I will thank you to stop looking down on us from your high horse or your condescending reference to Americans as USer's because thats what the intention is.

Amazing how you can minimize the bush factor as a blip in time when he has already caused this much damage for the US and in the world at large. The after effects of this blip might last some time post his departure. Interesting that you are not concerned. each to his own.

I am concerned, I am not obsessed with it as you are.

Now, what is the US next NON MILITARY move in dealing with the terrorist issue??? How will it account for other nations being attacked because they are involved with the US?Iraq equation??? Will it just "ignore" it , in it's usual arrogant style?? (while spewing insincere , shallow platitudes???)

No, I figured we let Canada take a leading role, you know as keepers of the peace. You can always send diplomats to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflicts, why don't you do that? Or in any other part of the world? Honest question, no sarcasm.

 

[AMB]

RE: Defeating terrorists

well war dose stop some things and in any end there is none perfect pecause one side well brake out.all terrorists are muzlem yet not all muzlems are terrorists.in witch words the only other way to stop terrissem is to convert them i for one am aganst that and as well.one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter and no war in this earth or the next can solve this i think it is a failed event and well go on ever more for it is now a growing cause the cuntrys binladin had named off are being bommed and nothen well stop it till well what they want done is done.

 

[moghrabi]

Re: RE: Defeating terrorists

well war dose stop some things and in any end there is none perfect pecause one side well brake out.all terrorists are muzlem yet not all muzlems are terrorists.in witch words the only other way to stop terrissem is to convert them i for one am aganst that and as well.one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter and no war in this earth or the next can solve this i think it is a failed event and well go on ever more for it is now a growing cause the cuntrys binladin had named off are being bommed and nothen well stop it till well what they want done is done.

Translated into English is .....???????

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: RE: Defeating terrorists without wars

Will thank you kindly NOT to TELL me what I am hoping for or how I feel about anything. ( when will the USers stop TELLING others what to do, what to think and how to think ???? Sheesh. )

And I will thank you to stop looking down on us from your high horse or your condescending reference to Americans as USer's because thats what the intention is.

Amazing how you can minimize the bush factor as a blip in time when he has already caused this much damage for the US and in the world at large. The after effects of this blip might last some time post his departure. Interesting that you are not concerned. each to his own.

I am concerned, I am not obsessed with it as you are.

Now, what is the US next NON MILITARY move in dealing with the terrorist issue??? How will it account for other nations being attacked because they are involved with the US?Iraq equation??? Will it just "ignore" it , in it's usual arrogant style?? (while spewing insincere , shallow platitudes???)

No, I figured we let Canada take a leading role, you know as keepers of the peace. You can always send diplomats to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflicts, why don't you do that? Or in any other part of the world? Honest question, no sarcasm.

hey, ITN ......this is getting too intense.... how about a form of truce??? :wink:

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You can always send diplomats to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflicts

Why??? maybe the collective we should let them sort it out themselves. Eventually they have to realize that fighting with each other is counterproductive. Maybe they have been meddled with too much now.

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: Defeating terrorists without wars

hey, ITN ......this is getting too intense.... how about a form of truce??? :wink:

Sure. I'll admit I got snappy. Sorry.

 

[moghrabi]

RE: Defeating terrorists

Surrender.

 

[moghrabi]

RE: Defeating terrorists

Ya he snapped at me and called me an extreme terrorist with ties to Abu Nidal Popular Front for the Defeat of the American Empire.

I don't even know this group.