Defeating terrorists without wars

Ocean Breeze

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stratochief said:
Back to the initial question:

I just don't know how the world can defeat the Americans without war.
:thumbleft: :scratch:

actually it can. Call in all the debts for starters. Cancel and re route trade agreements. ......a form of isolation. Money is the US achilles heel.
 

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moghrabi said:
bulldog said:
Ocean Breeze said:
I think not said:
Ocean Breeze said:
fair enough. But let's not forget who was the instigator of the elective invasion......and who followed like sheep.....(most likely because they thought there was something in it for them ) Reality is that the US has a bigger impact on the world than either the Brits or the Aussies. (at the moment)

I see, so the British and Australian people are sheep, but you see clearly.

Nope, and no need to draw conclusions like this.

Now, let's explore the ways that terrorism can be countered WITHOUT wars. (which only enhance the rational for more terrorism). Iraq is now the "breeding" ground / recruitment area for anyone who needs training in terrorism. A whole new generation of terrorists are being trained. So what bush has done is only fostered MORE terrorism. ....by invading Iraq . Iraq might end up being an albatross around the US neck for some time to come........due to the lies that were used to invade in the first place and the ensuing consequences.---which most likely are only beginning to be played out. He has destabilized a region and fostered more rage at the US. Inflaming the Muslim world was not smart.

Dare I say it? Ummm. Let's put it nicely.

Drop about 25,000 tons of pork rinds on the ME.
Build a mall with stylish clothing in every city - air-conditioned.
Pump 20,000 movies a day through the airways and 80 decibels of rock and roll.

That ought to do it.

Bull Dog :lol: :lol:

You must be related to Bush by the way you think.

How did you guess my secret? Oh my goodness, you must be psychic. I mean it - you ought become a professional.

BTW, it worked on Russia, and they caved. Food, clothes and entertainment will do it every time. It's just called winning the war with good old fashioned advertising and free samples.

Bull Dog
 

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Ocean Breeze said:
stratochief said:
Back to the initial question:

I just don't know how the world can defeat the Americans without war.
:thumbleft: :scratch:

actually it can. Call in all the debts for starters. Cancel and re route trade agreements. ......a form of isolation. Money is the US achilles heel.

I think I made mention of changing some trade agreements in another thread...china will own th US in a matter of years anyway, if it keeps moving in the same direction and with the momentum it is moving now.
 

moghrabi

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They have all of this and more. I know the area. They are looking for freedom to decide their own future and not what is imposed on them.
 

Ocean Breeze

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moghrabi said:
Use the Euro.

exactly, changing the currency would be the most powerful approach.

( remember that SH was going to switch the currency in Iraq to the Euro ......before the US decided he was not nec anymore and killed thousands to remove him from power??)
 

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manda said:
Ocean Breeze said:
stratochief said:
Back to the initial question:

I just don't know how the world can defeat the Americans without war.
:thumbleft: :scratch:

actually it can. Call in all the debts for starters. Cancel and re route trade agreements. ......a form of isolation. Money is the US achilles heel.

I think I made mention of changing some trade agreements in another thread...china will own th US in a matter of years anyway, if it keeps moving in the same direction and with the momentum it is moving now.


one might say that China owns the US now..... when one examines the trade issues etc. Who all does the US owe money to??? Might have to source this info out to get a better picture of their "fiscal" situation....


good points Manda.
 

Ocean Breeze

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moghrabi said:
That is one of the reasons they invaded Iraq.

exactly.......and notice how this is "never mentioned". ??? Would make the US look like the ass it is.......and more.
 

moghrabi

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This would definitely make the US look the ass it is plus the stench that comes with the ass.
 

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I honestly beleive that GW should be charged with war crimes. He knowingly sent thousands of poorly armoured men into a war (and ultimately their deaths) that wasn't fought for the reasons a war should be fought, or even the reasons they were told they were fighting for. It's so saddening for those families that have lost someone, thinking that it didn't have to happen. I support the troops, just not the leader
 

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manda said:
I honestly beleive that GW should be charged with war crimes. He knowingly sent thousands of poorly armoured men into a war (and ultimately their deaths) that wasn't fought for the reasons a war should be fought, or even the reasons they were told they were fighting for. It's so saddening for those families that have lost someone, thinking that it didn't have to happen. I support the troops, just not the leader

I absolutely agree. He has broken so many laws , that would qualif y him for trial. But in the American arrogance, they really don't think it will happen because they think they can "get away with it"

Maybe some one (the world) should do a regime change in the US ......as obviously the population isn't able to do it themselves now. Their own leader has far too much power. and will lie/cheat to maintain that power.
 

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I'd vote ya in for a week manda, but I'd want a co-deputy PM spot with Ocean :lol:
 

moghrabi

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This time is not gonna happen. they failed in all aspects. They lost the war to a bunch of fighters, they lost the respect of the world for them, they lost their standing as the most democratic country by having bush steal votes, they lost their image as a humane country that cares about Human Rights by opening the chambers in Guantanamo and the abuse in Abu gharieb.

Any other thing I missed please add it to my list. This will make Azerbaijan a better place to live.
 

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Canucklehead said:
I'd vote ya in for a week manda, but I'd want a co-deputy PM spot with Ocean :lol:

Absolutely, I'd need all the help I could get, cleaning up the mess those before us have made of things

Thanks, I'll let you know if I ever get in to politics :p
 

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Ocean Breeze said:
I absolutely agree. He has broken so many laws , that would qualif y him for trial. But in the American arrogance, they really don't think it will happen because they think they can "get away with it"

Maybe some one (the world) should do a regime change in the US ......as obviously the population isn't able to do it themselves now. Their own leader has far too much power. and will lie/cheat to maintain that power.

Well hey you can always try.