Defeating terrorists without wars

[I think not]

sure would seem so , AT THE MOMENT. Reasons, are obvious...and require no explanation. Mind you , things could change. It all depends on the USG and if it starts to act SMART as opposed to using muscle only and invading nations that posed no threat to them. ( and LYING so much, they all have the pinnochio syndrome.) Their convoluted LIES are an insult to the world's intelligence.

Yes but I am speaking of the American people bashing which seems to be one of your favorite passtimes, so I believe Canadians can be fair game also don't ya think?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

sure would seem so , AT THE MOMENT. Reasons, are obvious...and require no explanation. Mind you , things could change. It all depends on the USG and if it starts to act SMART as opposed to using muscle only and invading nations that posed no threat to them. ( and LYING so much, they all have the pinnochio syndrome.) Their convoluted LIES are an insult to the world's intelligence.

Yes but I am speaking of the American people bashing which seems to be one of your favorite passtimes, so I believe Canadians can be fair game also don't ya think?

you still don't get it ........ It is the malignant US GOVERNMENT that the US population put in place that is the bone of contention. Not sure the population realized what they were doing when they reinstalled the currrent gov't. Maybe they were locked into their own form of "brainwashing". .....based on FEAR.

but this is now digressing too far from the original topic. (my bad too.....)

 

[moghrabi]

Re: RE: Defeating terrorists without wars

OK OC put your eyeballs back in their sockets.

To defeat Islamic terrorists you shut down their terrorist schools, their Madrassas, their Imans .
Then you deprogram the brainwashed idiots, including the homegrown ones. They need to be brought into the 19th century (the 21st is too big a jump) and taught the 12 Commandments. The extra two have to do about not treating women like chattel, and something to do with human rights.

Most of the west never follow the 10 commandments. As for human rights, leave this issue to who respect human rights (for sure not Americans). As for women, how do you compare there treatment to the western way. The woman is used and abused in the west more than any part of the world.

 

[I think not]

you still don't get it ........ It is the malignant US GOVERNMENT that the US population put in place that is the bone of contention. Not sure the population realized what they were doing when they reinstalled the currrent gov't. Maybe they were locked into their own form of "brainwashing". .....based on FEAR.

but this is now digressing too far from the original topic. (my bad too.....)

Nonsense, you haven't jumped off your horse for weeks. You really need to chill a tad. Nobody is perfect. People make mistakes.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

you still don't get it ........ It is the malignant US GOVERNMENT that the US population put in place that is the bone of contention. Not sure the population realized what they were doing when they reinstalled the currrent gov't. Maybe they were locked into their own form of "brainwashing". .....based on FEAR.

but this is now digressing too far from the original topic. (my bad too.....)

Nonsense, you haven't jumped off your horse for weeks. You really need to chill a tad. Nobody is perfect. People make mistakes.

yes, people make "mistakes"........but some mistakes are just more destructive than others. Ok.....let's go with the "mistake" premise.........how , is the US going to correct this mistake?? How much more damage will the US population tolerate before they do something about it??? IF they care enough . If this "mistake " did not affect the world at large....it would be a non issue. as what the US does within its own borders is its business.

 

[I think not]

yes, people make "mistakes"........but some mistakes are just more destructive than others. Ok.....let's go with the "mistake" premise.........how , is the US going to correct this mistake?? How much more damage will the US population tolerate before they do something about it??? IF they care enough . If this "mistake " did not affect the world at large....it would be a non issue. as what the US does within its own borders is its business.

I don't hear you saying anything about the Brits re-electing Blair, or the Aussies re-electing Howard etc.... Haven't these populations caused an "impact" on the world stage also?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

yes, people make "mistakes"........but some mistakes are just more destructive than others. Ok.....let's go with the "mistake" premise.........how , is the US going to correct this mistake?? How much more damage will the US population tolerate before they do something about it??? IF they care enough . If this "mistake " did not affect the world at large....it would be a non issue. as what the US does within its own borders is its business.

I don't hear you saying anything about the Brits re-electing Blair, or the Aussies re-electing Howard etc.... Haven't these populations caused an "impact" on the world stage also?

fair enough. But let's not forget who was the instigator of the elective invasion......and who followed like sheep.....(most likely because they thought there was something in it for them ) Reality is that the US has a bigger impact on the world than either the Brits or the Aussies. (at the moment)

 

[bulldog]

sure would seem so , AT THE MOMENT. Reasons, are obvious...and require no explanation. Mind you , things could change. It all depends on the USG and if it starts to act SMART as opposed to using muscle only and invading nations that posed no threat to them. ( and LYING so much, they all have the pinnochio syndrome.) Their convoluted LIES are an insult to the world's intelligence.

Yes but I am speaking of the American people bashing which seems to be one of your favorite passtimes, so I believe Canadians can be fair game also don't ya think?

you still don't get it ........ It is the malignant US GOVERNMENT that the US population put in place that is the bone of contention. Not sure the population realized what they were doing when they reinstalled the currrent gov't. Maybe they were locked into their own form of "brainwashing". .....based on FEAR.

but this is now digressing too far from the original topic. (my bad too.....)

Sorry to have to inform you of this, patient, but the malignancy has spread over the entire North American continent. Put your affairs in order.

Dr. Bull Dog

 

[peapod]

Gertroot said 8O 8O
Oh yes Canadian Values...

Gotcha

Now, what does that have to do with this message board?? People come to this board to post topics. It seems that the majority of this message board are interested in american politics and the Iraq war. That appears will not be changing.
So yes, I guess it is a canadian value that its the will of the people that decide. The will of this board is clear, so I suggest, you start proving what they post, and the links they provide are untrue.

 

[I think not]

fair enough. But let's not forget who was the instigator of the elective invasion......and who followed like sheep.....(most likely because they thought there was something in it for them ) Reality is that the US has a bigger impact on the world than either the Brits or the Aussies. (at the moment)

I see, so the British and Australian people are sheep, but you see clearly.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

fair enough. But let's not forget who was the instigator of the elective invasion......and who followed like sheep.....(most likely because they thought there was something in it for them ) Reality is that the US has a bigger impact on the world than either the Brits or the Aussies. (at the moment)

I see, so the British and Australian people are sheep, but you see clearly.

Nope, and no need to draw conclusions like this.

Now, let's explore the ways that terrorism can be countered WITHOUT wars. (which only enhance the rational for more terrorism). Iraq is now the "breeding" ground / recruitment area for anyone who needs training in terrorism. A whole new generation of terrorists are being trained. So what bush has done is only fostered MORE terrorism. ....by invading Iraq . Iraq might end up being an albatross around the US neck for some time to come........due to the lies that were used to invade in the first place and the ensuing consequences.---which most likely are only beginning to be played out. He has destabilized a region and fostered more rage at the US. Inflaming the Muslim world was not smart.

 

[Just the Facts]

He has destabilized a region and fostered more rage at the US. Inflaming the Muslim world was not smart.

I'm still waiting for any indication of what Thailand did to inflame the Muslim world.

 

[moghrabi]

RE: Defeating terrorists

The Thailand issue is more like the Catholics and protestants in England. It is a normal aggressive little war between religious zealots.

 

[Just the Facts]

Re: RE: Defeating terrorists

The Thailand issue is more like the Catholics and protestants in England. It is a normal aggressive little war between religious zealots.

Can you back that up? From what I've been reading, it's been a fairly one-sided "agressive little war", until recently when the Buddhists and Thai gov't have finally said enough is enough.

The protestant-catholic conflict in Ireland, I'm assuming is what you're referring to, has nothing whatsoever to do with religious zealots. The division among denominations is purely a secondary happenstance, where British Loyalists happen to be protestant and nationalists happen to be catholic. There is no parallel whatsoever to Thailand.

 

[I think not]

Nope, and no need to draw conclusions like this.

Now, let's explore the ways that terrorism can be countered WITHOUT wars. (which only enhance the rational for more terrorism). Iraq is now the "breeding" ground / recruitment area for anyone who needs training in terrorism. A whole new generation of terrorists are being trained. So what bush has done is only fostered MORE terrorism. ....by invading Iraq . Iraq might end up being an albatross around the US neck for some time to come........due to the lies that were used to invade in the first place and the ensuing consequences.---which most likely are only beginning to be played out. He has destabilized a region and fostered more rage at the US. Inflaming the Muslim world was not smart.

Nah, lets stick to the sheep for a moment. The US, GB and Australia are full of sheep, warmongering people, right?

 

[bulldog]

fair enough. But let's not forget who was the instigator of the elective invasion......and who followed like sheep.....(most likely because they thought there was something in it for them ) Reality is that the US has a bigger impact on the world than either the Brits or the Aussies. (at the moment)

I see, so the British and Australian people are sheep, but you see clearly.

Nope, and no need to draw conclusions like this.

Now, let's explore the ways that terrorism can be countered WITHOUT wars. (which only enhance the rational for more terrorism). Iraq is now the "breeding" ground / recruitment area for anyone who needs training in terrorism. A whole new generation of terrorists are being trained. So what bush has done is only fostered MORE terrorism. ....by invading Iraq . Iraq might end up being an albatross around the US neck for some time to come........due to the lies that were used to invade in the first place and the ensuing consequences.---which most likely are only beginning to be played out. He has destabilized a region and fostered more rage at the US. Inflaming the Muslim world was not smart.

Dare I say it? Ummm. Let's put it nicely.

Drop about 25,000 tons of pork rinds on the ME.
Build a mall with stylish clothing in every city - air-conditioned.
Pump 20,000 movies a day through the airways and 80 decibels of rock and roll.

That ought to do it.

Bull Dog :lol: :lol:

 

[manda]

Perhaps if someone had of thought of initiating a stealth mission to capture Saddam, and Osama, and skipped all this bloody hype, all of these deaths could have been avoided, and both of them would have been tried by the hague already, but nooo... Bush can't think like that, he like to make noise and big "booms" :x . I don't think anyone has ever made me so angry without doing something to me personally.

 

[I think not]

He has that effect on people. Everytime I see him on television, I feel he is insulting me personally.

 

[moghrabi]

fair enough. But let's not forget who was the instigator of the elective invasion......and who followed like sheep.....(most likely because they thought there was something in it for them ) Reality is that the US has a bigger impact on the world than either the Brits or the Aussies. (at the moment)

I see, so the British and Australian people are sheep, but you see clearly.

Nope, and no need to draw conclusions like this.

Now, let's explore the ways that terrorism can be countered WITHOUT wars. (which only enhance the rational for more terrorism). Iraq is now the "breeding" ground / recruitment area for anyone who needs training in terrorism. A whole new generation of terrorists are being trained. So what bush has done is only fostered MORE terrorism. ....by invading Iraq . Iraq might end up being an albatross around the US neck for some time to come........due to the lies that were used to invade in the first place and the ensuing consequences.---which most likely are only beginning to be played out. He has destabilized a region and fostered more rage at the US. Inflaming the Muslim world was not smart.

Dare I say it? Ummm. Let's put it nicely.

Drop about 25,000 tons of pork rinds on the ME.
Build a mall with stylish clothing in every city - air-conditioned.
Pump 20,000 movies a day through the airways and 80 decibels of rock and roll.

That ought to do it.

Bull Dog :lol: :lol:

You must be related to Bush by the way you think.

 

[moghrabi]

Re: RE: Defeating terrorists

The Thailand issue is more like the Catholics and protestants in England. It is a normal aggressive little war between religious zealots.

Can you back that up? From what I've been reading, it's been a fairly one-sided "agressive little war", until recently when the Buddhists and Thai gov't have finally said enough is enough.

The protestant-catholic conflict in Ireland, I'm assuming is what you're referring to, has nothing whatsoever to do with religious zealots. The division among denominations is purely a secondary happenstance, where British Loyalists happen to be protestant and nationalists happen to be catholic. There is no parallel whatsoever to Thailand.

My apologies regarding Ireland and mixing it with England. I will research the matter more regarding the situation in Thailand.