Death knell for AGW

beaker

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From what i've heard a week ago,apparently the sahara was fertile at on time in the past,but the humans that lived there,damaged it with irrigation diverting the rivers screwing with nature,then POOF water gone.

if true,then we are repeating the mistakes of the past.

I had heard that theory as well, along with goats chewing everything down to the roots. Does anyone else find it odd that some posters think that because we have extreme conditions on the planet that our actions won't produce more. It has been long understood that co2 is a greenhouse gas. It is readily recognized that our burning of fossil fuels is putting massive amounts of this greenhouse gas into the air, that we are about halfway through the oil with plenty of coal to burn, and it should follow then that if we continue to burn them we will definitely make things more extreme

Where is the comprehension problem?
 

MapleDog

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I had heard that theory as well, along with goats chewing everything down to the roots. Does anyone else find it odd that some posters think that because we have extreme conditions on the planet that our actions won't produce more. It has been long understood that co2 is a greenhouse gas. It is readily recognized that our burning of fossil fuels is putting massive amounts of this greenhouse gas into the air, that we are about halfway through the oil with plenty of coal to burn, and it should follow then that if we continue to burn them we will definitely make things more extreme

Where is the comprehension problem?
Some seems to chose to believe the "scientists" that are paid by the industries to say,they are not the primary cause,or that the emissions have no effect on the environment.
 

beaker

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And cooler oceans bring drought. That's a bit of a quandary isn't it?

Not really, as has been pointed out other things cause drought like warmer air. It can hold more moisture taking it from soil and water and holding it until there is an extreme weather event. Drought in one area hurricane in another
 

petros

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Not really, as has been pointed out other things cause drought like warmer air. It can hold more moisture taking it from soil and water and holding it until there is an extreme weather event. Drought in one area hurricane in another
Where do you come up with this crap? Do you just make this **** up as you go along?
 

petros

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MapleDog

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There are 2 sides,the global warming doomsdayers,and the negationists,one has people exagerating things,the other says "don't worry be happy"
while we are stuck in the middle being screwed by both sides.

I do not say we should stop everything to go live in caves,but we could slow down on this wasteful economy system.
 

Cabbagesandking

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Alberta was once under water but it was also in a very different part of the world when it was. At around that prehistorical era, the British Isles were smack in the middle of a large continent mad up of Europe and North America. Just a few million years from the time of Alberta's bathtime.

The Sahara was once fertile. It was also once arid and before that it was fertile. It was not climate change that did any of those - unless you want to go back a few million years. It was fertile several thousand years ago for the reasons given. But, it did not have the rainfall to support a fertile region. Ground water soon is used up if not replenished.

The Sahara is now expanding because of climate change> Desertification is proceeding apace there and in several other regions as that higher moisture content precipitates uselessly in areas where it is not needed or in torrents that run off without benefit.
 

petros

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The Sahara was once fertile. It was also once arid and before that it was fertile. It was not climate change that did any of those - unless you want to go back a few million years. It was fertile several thousand years ago for the reasons given. But, it did not have the rainfall to support a fertile region. Ground water soon is used up if not replenished.

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Where do you come up with this crap?
 

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Cabbagesandking

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There are 2 sides,the global warming doomsdayers,and the negationists,one has people exagerating things,the other says "don't worry be happy"
while we are stuck in the middle being screwed by both sides.

I do not say we should stop everything to go live in caves,but we could slow down on this wasteful economy system.

Unfortunately there are no doomsayers. If you were to follow what scientists are saying in their conversations, you would know that most are deliberately downplaying the dangers and the consequences for the reason that the alarm would cause what we already see to become the norm: that is the "we can't do anything about it" meme.

We can do something about it. We cannot prevent several hundred years of an unstable climate that is not so comfortable as we knew. We still can prevent catastrophe.

The kicker is that we have only five to ten years in which to do it before we pass the tipping point into a realm of no return. That is the true evil of politicians like Bush and Harper. They know this because the science is reported to them. But, either from their religious convictions or their self interested ambition, they prevent action.

AGW is real. It is caused almost 100% by man. There can be no dispute of that. The science is unarguable. There have been climate changes in the past and there is always a reason for the change in CO2 levels that lead to it.

This time there is no other possible cause but our emissions.
 

petros

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Unfortunately there are no doomsayers. If you were to follow what scientists are saying in their conversations, you would know that most are deliberately downplaying the dangers and the consequences for the reason that the alarm would cause what we already see to become the norm: that is the "we can't do anything about it" meme.

We can do something about it. We cannot prevent several hundred years of an unstable climate that is not so comfortable as we knew. We still can prevent catastrophe.

The kicker is that we have only five to ten years in which to do it before we pass the tipping point into a realm of no return. That is the true evil of politicians like Bush and Harper. They know this because the science is reported to them. But, either from their religious convictions or their self interested ambition, they prevent action.

AGW is real. It is caused almost 100% by man. There can be no dispute of that. The science is unarguable. There have been climate changes in the past and there is always a reason for the change in CO2 levels that lead to it.

This time there is no other possible cause but our emissions.
Where do you come up with this crap?
 

CDNBear

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I'm waiting for you to name your source.
I'm waiting for him to tell me how he can be the same person that wrote this, while he claims to have been published in UN articles.

But the name of the author of the that doggerel, can not be found in the UN directory of authors, contributing or otherwise.
 
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