Cruel Britannia - Britain must pay $31 trillion in damages for its cruelty
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WAAAAAAAAAAAA! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
How very cowardly of you Blackleaf. You are on the hot seat and the first thing out of your mouth is
"Blame America"
From one who boasted "The Sun Never sets on the British Empire" you sound very timid.
"Don't pick on me! Pick on him!"
Take your medicine like a man. No wonder it was easy to get our Independence.
you know that's going to get a reaction....whereas Britain gained it's independence from a weak and dying roman empire by the very nature of retreat, America gained her's from a virtual baby of an empire....if you study your history, you will know that the continent of Europe had it's eye on Britain, it realised how powerful it's navy had become and decided to group together to fall on it before it could become the power it eventually became anyway.
It's just very fortunate for the rest of Europe an Englishman (with roots in Lincolnshire actually) decided to gather a few of his wealthy trader friends and throw their toys out of the pram. If it was easy...you'd have won a skirmish on your own.
You had a LOT of help my friend, a LOT of help, never think it was easy or you did it on your own...
well if you call an allience with Spain, France, Portugal and half the holy roman empire on your own thats fine......
My post was mostly tongue in cheek if you will. It was pointing towards a guy who spouts off about the British Empire every chance and when someone posts something blaming the world's woes on the British the first thing he does is say
"It's America's fault"
That to me says "Please leave me alone and pick on him instead." or "Don't take my lunch money... that kid has more."
Now to answer your post saying the Brits gained it's indepedence from Rome... how so? When the Romans left Britain they (Rome) were already on the way down the tube.
I agree wit you that we had help... mostly from the French towards the end. That just sped up the eventual defeat. The Brits had help from the Germans with Hessian troops. They also had loyalist militia. But in the end the we won... fair and square. I said it was easy to rib him a bit as I know it is a sore spot for him.
Never won a skirmish on our own? Most every battle was fought w/o the help of foreign armies. The first battle fought was a total rout. Lexington and Concord. The redcoats got splattered all the way from Concord to Boston.
That's what they teach us here Eaglesmack, probably a bit of an over exaggeration, he definatly lost more than he won. That's why I said a "fair bit of the holly roman empire" because as you know, that was basically Germany, we hired hessians from them (althouh I imagine they werent particularly effective) and of course we had militia's of our own.
I always just call it a draw anyway, I mean, I know for a long time the ultimate goal of Washington's men was to remove us from the new world altogether....that was not done and we still had a rather large foothold in north america by the end.
And that was exactly what I meant about the withdrawl of the Roman Empire from Britain, it was dying...dead in the water, whereas the British Empire was just starting to grow when you left us..
although I never felt the rest of Europe's intentions towards the the newly found independent colonies was honourable..(I just cant help feeling that, in an ideal world, they would have liked to walk in and take over...and that's why i still think the British Nnavy had a lot to do with the growth of the US anyway.)
I'm with you on that one.Probably isn't going to stop anytime soon either.
BTW, I forgive you your $31 trillion debt to me.
The White Man isn't screwing up the world.
Canada, Europe, USA, we are democrascies.
We are free... we choose our own path.
If a leader we CHOOSE f's up, we put somebody new in after a set period of time.
Our majority chooses the events that happen from our leaders.
So blame us all.
I personally see nations that prosecute their people, and dictatorships, where there is no freedom, are hurting this world.
Canada, Europe, USA, we are democrascies.
We are free... we choose our own path.
If a leader we CHOOSE f's up, we put somebody new in after a set period of time.
Our majority chooses the events that happen from our leaders.
So blame us all.
I personally see nations that prosecute their people, and dictatorships, where there is no freedom, are hurting this world.
America is a noble nation.
We chose our President, we were attacked on our home soil, we MUST deal with the issue of terrorism.
While nations like France, and Spain stand by and point fingers, America is ATTEMPTING to take what was dicatorship in Iraq and turn it into a democracy.
Its like we see a innocent man locked up in box, guarded by a warden, a man named America tries to help this man get out of the box and be free, and a crowd around the man America, named World, points fingers and taunts the man America trying to free the innocent man from the box guarded by the warden.
Its absolutely disgraceful, if France and Belgium, and other nations don't want to make a difference in nations where the people are treated cruelling, then don't try to stop our efforts.
These European nations, with the exception of Britain, anger me.
We chose our President, we were attacked on our home soil, we MUST deal with the issue of terrorism.
While nations like France, and Spain stand by and point fingers, America is ATTEMPTING to take what was dicatorship in Iraq and turn it into a democracy.
Its like we see a innocent man locked up in box, guarded by a warden, a man named America tries to help this man get out of the box and be free, and a crowd around the man America, named World, points fingers and taunts the man America trying to free the innocent man from the box guarded by the warden.
Its absolutely disgraceful, if France and Belgium, and other nations don't want to make a difference in nations where the people are treated cruelling, then don't try to stop our efforts.
These European nations, with the exception of Britain, anger me.
Blackleaf's attempt at dodging the issue aside, I agree with him a bit. One can't forge ahead much by looking backkwards. Try driving by looking in the rearview mirror. What's important is current and future times and not to repeat old mistakes. Ooooops, the US blew it there. It's empire building schemes will cuse more grief just like the Brit's plans did.
America is an exception to history.
Unlike the Greek or Roman empires, America is never going to die, I see America as the world power till the end of time.
And yes there will be an end of time.
Unlike the Greek or Roman empires, America is never going to die, I see America as the world power till the end of time.
And yes there will be an end of time.
I agree, but just remember, the US and Canada....along with a great many other democratic countries are a result of that empire building today....cant all be bad can it?
Well, I don't know about you but I think Canada, nice as it is, is in a pretty sorry state. Same with the US. Internal problems galore.
hehe and theres the line when we say "ooopss....had nothing to do with it" lol just remember the state of the other empire builders empires and the newly developed nations from them...and the state they're in...as I say...could be worse
Quite. If it keeps ignoring its internal problems eating away the guts and concentrating on external matters, there won't be much of anything left once someone decides to poke the balloon with a pin. For instance, look at the place since 9/11. What's been spent on fixing up the inside in comparison to having been spent on outside matters? It's a pretty large fraction. Yet, there are more homeless than before, systems are ailing, crime is rampant, etc. I would suggest the best thing to do would be to tuck tail in and say," to hell with the rest of the planet", and fix the yard and the house up.
The stupidest thing a historian can do is compare past deeds to current morals. The second stupidest thing a historian can do is ignore the concept of progression.
You see this with inventions all the time "If Bell didn't invent the telephone we wouldn't have one!"
No, If Bell didn't invent the telephone, someone else, probably in the next few years, would have.
If Britain didn't end up being the top dog, someone else would have. If that wasn't a European power because things had gone differently, It could have been the Ottomans in the Middle East, the Mali Empire in Africa, or China. Depending on what Suleiman, Abubakari II or Zheng He had managed to pull off.
Then we would have someone writing a book about how "Evil" the Ottomans, Mandike or Chinese are and how THEY are the root cause, and a tiny island of the shores of third world europe named England was oppressed by them.
People are people, the world turns, move on with it.
You see this with inventions all the time "If Bell didn't invent the telephone we wouldn't have one!"
No, If Bell didn't invent the telephone, someone else, probably in the next few years, would have.
If Britain didn't end up being the top dog, someone else would have. If that wasn't a European power because things had gone differently, It could have been the Ottomans in the Middle East, the Mali Empire in Africa, or China. Depending on what Suleiman, Abubakari II or Zheng He had managed to pull off.
Then we would have someone writing a book about how "Evil" the Ottomans, Mandike or Chinese are and how THEY are the root cause, and a tiny island of the shores of third world europe named England was oppressed by them.
People are people, the world turns, move on with it.