Crime stats in Saskatoon

[Creeman]

not my land? and whose land is it then? yours. dream on buddy.

i will live as my ancestors did because it is my right to and you cannot deny me of anything no matter who you are. i would like to see it. is that your idea of human evolution? to become so advanced, that everything natural is primitive? listen to yourself. it is because of idiots like you that our world is coming to an end.

 

[darkbeaver]

not my land? and whose land is it then? yours. dream on buddy.

i will live as my ancestors did because it is my right to and you cannot deny me of anything no matter who you are. i would like to see it. is that your idea of human evolution? to become so advanced, that everything natural is primitive? listen to yourself. it is because of idiots like you that our world is coming to an end.

Nice idiot identification Creeman.:wave:

 

[Winnipegger]

I am the furthest from religious, but it is God's land. You should know this because traditional Aboriginal teachings often refer to God (creator) and spiritual awareness. We are all here on it, and we have to make the best lives for ourselves. While there are both good and bad results of progression (good: advances in medicine, bad: man relies too much on automation), it cannot be stopped, so you might as well join society.

For starters, why not go preach your gospel to the aboriginal youth trash who hang around Portage Place because they have nothing better to do. You think you are so edified, then share your ideas with your people.

 

[Creeman]

WinnipeggerI am the furthest from religious, but it is God's land. You should know this because traditional Aboriginal teachings often refer to God (creator) and spiritual awareness. We are all here on it, and we have to make the best lives for ourselves. While there are both good and bad results of progression (good: advances in medicine, bad: man relies too much on automation), it cannot be stopped, so you might as well join society.

For starters, why not go preach your gospel to the aboriginal youth trash who hang around Portage Place because they have nothing better to do. You think you are so edified, then share your ideas with your people.

you're telling me that the " if you can't beat em, join em" attitude will work for everyone. I will not assimilate because you tell me to. why can't you seem to understand anything? I can live in both worlds and having people stereo type me doesn't really help anything.

that's all we ever have been to people like you is "aboriginal youth trash". there lies the problem. you can't even recognize our people as human.

let me ask you a question. what makes you so much better than native people. i'm just curious.

 

[Winnipegger]

I never said I was better than you. I think Aboriginal youth who reject schooling and congregate outside a mall are trash.

First off, you need to decide what you want. You criticize me for saying that industry is needed on reserves to employ Aboriginals who prefer to live on reserves. So if I said abolish reserves all together, and basically relocate all on-reserve Aboriginals to cities, you would criticize that too. So, I guess the only alternative is to NOT attract jobs to reserves, let Aboriginals stay on reserves, but have government support? Hmmm, that seems like a horrible solution. What about the equation jobs = pride is flawed? if government is not doing enough in the eyes of many Chiefs, why do Aboriginals on reserves not return to their historic way of life? I am thinking because they do not want to. Otherwise, we would see an instant transformation of reserves into a collection of tipis, etc.

I grew up with an alcoholic father who was abusive. This did not affect who i wanted to be, and what I wanted out of life. I am successful because of hard work, and focusing on what i want. I had no role model (my mother as a person) but no guidance to help me shape a career, etc. I had to figure that out on my own.

 

[Creeman]

I never said I was better than you. I think Aboriginal youth who reject schooling and congregate outside a mall are trash.

First off, you need to decide what you want. You criticize me for saying that industry is needed on reserves to employ Aboriginals who prefer to live on reserves. So if I said abolish reserves all together, and basically relocate all on-reserve Aboriginals to cities, you would criticize that too. So, I guess the only alternative is to NOT attract jobs to reserves, let Aboriginals stay on reserves, but have government support? Hmmm, that seems like a horrible solution. What about the equation jobs = pride is flawed? if government is not doing enough in the eyes of many Chiefs, why do Aboriginals on reserves not return to their historic way of life? I am thinking because they do not want to. Otherwise, we would see an instant transformation of reserves into a collection of tipis, etc.

I grew up with an alcoholic father who was abusive. This did not affect who i wanted to be, and what I wanted out of life. I am successful because of hard work, and focusing on what i want. I had no role model (my mother as a person) but no guidance to help me shape a career, etc. I had to figure that out on my own.

There is nothing wrong with that Jobs=home ownership= pride equation. I simply pointed out that it is ethnocentric or perhaps eurocentric. that whole concept was brought to this continent via western civilization and to top it off it was a culture that was forced on my people. That is what I have a problem with.

FYI. there is people living traditional lives. you just don't understand to which length that they live it. i wouldn't go as far as saying living in tipis or anything like that; nevertheless, they still live off the land and practise ceremony and speak the language fluently, ect. If you haven't noticed that all the buffalo are no longer running wild in the prairies; it would be almost impossible to return to that way of life. besides, not every tribe lived in tipis or hunted buffalo ( do some research).

my grandfather always taught his kids to work and at the same time to live off the land, having said that, i am not arguing against making more jobs for people on reserves; however, I am saying that going in and further destroying land for profit is where i would draw the line. Capitalism is not something that i encourage or would teach to my people, not that they haven't already learned about it.

 

[Creeman]

I am the furthest from religious, but it is God's land. You should know this because traditional Aboriginal teachings often refer to God (creator) and spiritual awareness. We are all here on it, and we have to make the best lives for ourselves. While there are both good and bad results of progression (good: advances in medicine, bad: man relies too much on automation), it cannot be stopped, so you might as well join society.

For starters, why not go preach your gospel to the aboriginal youth trash who hang around Portage Place because they have nothing better to do. You think you are so edified, then share your ideas with your people.

Do I look like a christian to you?

My guess is that you think crown land and the Canadian government think they're god right?
They laid claims to it when we told em it wasn't ours to sell, they still proceeded with colonization anyway. It is our land; it is ours to take care of it. it's not in the same way that you think though. it is meant for all of our people to share and ensure that it is still here for our future generations. that's the difference.

 

[Winnipegger]

Too bad more people (even non-Aboriginals) do not seem to share your Grandfather's wisdom.

I am an Outsider looking in, just as all non-Aboriginals are; I do not mean to force anything on Aboriginals, but as a community that is plagued with so many issues, it needs to be rejuvinated. Reserves need to be abolished, but of course, there are many Aboriginals on reserves who want to live in such a community. So, in order for there to be adequate housing, etc, jobs need to be provided.

 

[CDNBear]

I am confused now. Are people in this blog just being straight out racist or are people just trying to figure why natives have these types of things going on in their communities?

I speak my truth here and if people cannot acknowledge it, then perhaps, you should be talking about topic that you know more about.

Creeman, I have been saying that since I got here. There are many miss conceptions and stereotypical thoughts floating around here. Like I mentioned in my reply to you in another thread, these sereotypes come from somewhere, they didn't just pop up last night, in peoples minds. It's people like me and you that have to get the word out, that we are not all gas huffing asshats. We can be and are productive citizens, that contribute greatly to society.

 

[Creeman]

Creeman, I have been saying that since I got here. There are many miss conceptions and stereotypical thoughts floating around here. Like I mentioned in my reply to you in another thread, these sereotypes come from somewhere, they didn't just pop up last night, in peoples minds. It's people like me and you that have to get the word out, that we are not all gas huffing asshats. We can be and are productive citizens, that contribute greatly to society.

yeah, you are right.

 

[CDNBear]

yeah, you are right.

This is likely the reason for your confusion on where I stand.

I generally only hold contempt for Native people who do more damage to the cause, then benefit, by playing right into the myths and stereotypes and of course politicians. But being the arrogant ass that I am, it pisses me right off, when I blow my peeps horn and make a good show of it, then some posts some new stupid move by another Native leader or criminal. It hurts my ego and my heart.

 

[Winnipegger]

Like this?

Officer deflects attack
Man charged with assault with weapon
Sun Mar 4 2007

A 23-year-old man was arrested Friday evening after he lunged at a Winnipeg police officer's head with a knife.

Patrolling city police stopped to investigate a dispute between a man and woman near Higgins Avenue and Main Street shortly after 7 p.m. The man approached the police cruiser to speak with officers, pulled a knife from his jacket pocket and lunged through the window of the cruiser.
The officer deflected the blow and the two struggled. The suspect broke away from the officer, dropped his weapon and attempted to flee the area.
After a short foot chase, the man was arrested.
Sgt. Kelly Dennison said the violent incident was unusual, and police officers are rarely attacked with dangerous weapons.
"Nobody was injured, luckily," Dennison said. "It could've been quite serious."

Dennison said the incident shows the dangers police officers face each day on the job, noting physical assaults are much more common than attacks with weapons. Elvis Alexander Turtle, 23, has been charged with assault with a weapon, possession of a weapon for dangerous purpose and obstructing an officer.

 

[Winnipegger]

http://winnipegsun.com/News/Manitoba/2007/03/08/3714244-sun.html

http://winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2007/03/08/3714225-sun.html



Where the hell are native leaders denouncing this?

 

[Winnipegger]

It is absolutely ridiculous that things like this seem to happen every f*cken day. I am so sick of this. If you cannot act like a human being, kill yourself, or go live in the wild....


Winnipeg police are looking for a man who tried unsuccessfully to sexually assault a woman in the West End last night.

Police say the man grabbed an 18-year-old woman near the corner of Sherbrook Street and Sargent Avenue about 10 p.m. yesterday then dragged her to a nearby back lane. He then tried to sexually assault her, but she got away and took off.

The man is described as being about 18 to 25 years old, Aboriginal, about 6-foot-2 or 6-foot-3, 200 pounds, with light skin, short dark hair, a thin moustache, thick dark eyebrows and scabs on his knuckles. He was wearing a white windbreaker, black jeans, white “Phat Farm” runners and a black and white camo baseball hat.
Anyone with information on the attack is asked to call police at 986-6668 or Crime Stoppers anonymously at 786-TIPS.

 

[habsfan4life]

I didn't read the whole thread but are Saskatchewan's crime rates higher than Toronto and Montreal?

 

[snfu73]

Everyone in this blog who is racist sucks.

that's all i will say.

That seems to be the overwhelming majority. What's with that?? I can't believe the crap I am reading in here. Seems that people would prefer to stick to their comfortable stereotypes than actually find out something about the issues they are discussing.

 

[snfu73]

It is absolutely ridiculous that things like this seem to happen every f*cken day. I am so sick of this. If you cannot act like a human being, kill yourself, or go live in the wild....


Winnipeg police are looking for a man who tried unsuccessfully to sexually assault a woman in the West End last night.

Police say the man grabbed an 18-year-old woman near the corner of Sherbrook Street and Sargent Avenue about 10 p.m. yesterday then dragged her to a nearby back lane. He then tried to sexually assault her, but she got away and took off.

The man is described as being about 18 to 25 years old, Aboriginal, about 6-foot-2 or 6-foot-3, 200 pounds, with light skin, short dark hair, a thin moustache, thick dark eyebrows and scabs on his knuckles. He was wearing a white windbreaker, black jeans, white “Phat Farm” runners and a black and white camo baseball hat.
Anyone with information on the attack is asked to call police at 986-6668 or Crime Stoppers anonymously at 786-TIPS.

And white folks never commit crimes? Hmmm...what colour skin did James Rosco have again? Hmmmm.

Remember that little incident...the one where Saskatoon police brought a young man named Neil Stonechild to the edge of the city in the middle of a freezing cold night...where he was found later...dead. What colour were those cops? White? Yaaaaaaa.

 

[snfu73]

Creeman, I have been saying that since I got here. There are many miss conceptions and stereotypical thoughts floating around here. Like I mentioned in my reply to you in another thread, these sereotypes come from somewhere, they didn't just pop up last night, in peoples minds. It's people like me and you that have to get the word out, that we are not all gas huffing asshats. We can be and are productive citizens, that contribute greatly to society.

Then face the facts...native canadians aren't the only ones commiting crimes. Frick, in Edmonton, kids keep getting stabbed outside of bars and crap...none of it is related to a native canadian at all. Why is no one mentioning these crimes? What race was Paul Bernardo again? What race was Robert Pickton? You don't think white folks commit crimes? It's just native folks? No, what I am seeing in this thread is an overwhelming amount of racism...and it's sad...it's scary. This is the kinda crap I would expect from Klan members. Some of you even have the nerve to claim you are christian? Is this what your god is teaching you?

 

[hermanntrude]

Canada is an extremely poor example of a democracy. Said it for years - it's crappy. We should bolt the doors of parliament and dare the mounties to undo them. A civil war fought to free a people of the grip of club democracy, where parties fight primarily to gain favours for their membership, is a worthy cause. And might in the end give this people a chance to be proud again.

advocating war? great idea. that'll help canada no end

Violence is not the answer.

 

[Winnipegger]

Well considering the number of "white" people in our country, of course crimes will be committed by us--my God, what a feeble argument, the weakest argument.

The fact is, and the crime reports confirm, that in Winnipeg, the majority of crimes are committed by Aboriginals. Ignoring that, or offering flimsy arguments to the contrary is pathetic.

CJOB Radio:
Mon March 12/2007

Winnipeg Police are looking for suspects in a shooting in the core area this morning. Police confirm a shotgun blast through a window at 389 Avenue just after 5 this morning. No-one was hurt. No arrests have been made and they are looking for a number of young, Aboriginal suspects.