Crime or Mental illness

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Schizophrenic meds are horrific. The side effects render the patient useless even to themselves much of the time. that is why it is so difficult to get them to stay on them. Most bi-polar people I know are on lithium which makes them lethargic unless they have been on them for a long time and then some of them can function almost normally.

Cliffy - You know as well as I it depends upon the severity of the illness. Next - What else can be done is the question.

Little known fact - many soldiers with PTSD also succumb to a Psychotic condition - for persons that are Psychotic, drugs work well. For those with PTSD they do not.
 

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When it comes to crime, Canadians have been very vocal that too many lenient sentences are being handed down, hence the tough new proposals.

When it comes to mental health, a major problem is that a lot of people who suffer from mental health problems simply don't want help. Don't believe me? Go to the Downtown Eastside and see how many people you can convince to enter treatment, you won't have much success. And you can forget treating people in the first place, what these people need is a cure, and that cure is hearing the gospel and walking into the open arms of Jesus Christ.

Thinking we have a crime problem when crimes rates go down every year proves the fallacy of Harper's plan. People keep bitching about deficits and government waste, yet they support locking up pot growers for multiple year sentences, which cost a fortune. This is Harper trying to appease his wannabe Texan colleagues, **** them.

How many mentally ill people go undiagnosed due to substance abuse issues? It's easier just to label them as a junkie and lock em up, is how I see it. Screw treating the underlying issue, throw em in the pen and let them rot seems to be the current way of the government.
 

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Cliffy - You know as well as I it depends upon the severity of the illness. Next - What else can be done is the question.

Little known fact - many soldiers with PTSD also succumb to a Psychotic condition - for persons that are Psychotic, drugs work well. For those with PTSD they do not.
Of course it depends on severity. My point is that most are not that severe that they require life long medication. Most can be trained to recognize onset and control the psychosis. The military is another story for sure. PTSD is caused by mental and emotional trauma and not chemical imbalances, although many civilians suffer the same. My insanity is caused by brain trauma, not chemical imbalance, but scar tissue on my brain. There is no medication that would work for me but I have taught myself how to deal with it. Mental Health is useless to me.
 

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Of course it depends on severity. My point is that most are not that severe that they require life long medication. Most can be trained to recognize onset and control the psychosis. The military is another story for sure. PTSD is caused by mental and emotional trauma and not chemical imbalances, although many civilians suffer the same. My insanity is caused by brain trauma, not chemical imbalance, but scar tissue on my brain. There is no medication that would work for me but I have taught myself how to deal with it. Mental Health is useless to me.

But for others it gives them a life. Each and every case is different.

Also with PTSD your chances of dementia are doubled. A little known fact ref PTSD.