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Chances are it'll be a lot less.
Remember: almost ALL countries are fiddling their figures.
Chances are it'll be a lot less.
Remember: almost ALL countries are fiddling their figures.
COVID-19 'Pandemic'
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DOUGLAS MURRAY We need to make China pay for coronavirus…and we need to walk away
COMMENT
Douglas Murray
2 May 2020
The Sun
JUST one trouble with conspiracies is that they sometimes turn out to be true. Especially when you are dealing with a government like China’s.
As viewers of the series Chernobyl know, non-democratic governments have a history of covering up their errors.
The Chinese authorities have done everything they can to hide what happened in Wuhan - especially the origins of coronavirus
In that case, the Soviets did everything they could to stop the world learning about the meltdown at their nuclear reactor.
Today the Communist Party of China has done everything it can to hide what happened in Wuhan. Especially the origins of the disease which has shut down the world.
Yesterday President Trump broke one of the taboos in all this. Which is needed.
The question is: What is the likelihood the coronavirus originated in the exact part of China that has a laboratory looking into just such viruses?
To date the Chinese authorities have allowed the world to believe in the bat-eating, wet-market theory on the origins of the epidemic.
They prefer embarrassment over suspicion.
But all along, people have wondered whether something less “accidental” is at play.
Now the US President has told reporters he has seen strong evidence that Covid-19 originated from the laboratory in Wuhan. The President’s remarks change the game.
China should be in enough trouble as it is. Even if it was true that the virus is an accident caused by a strange food custom, the Chinese Communist Party has a lot to answer for.
DARKER THEORIES
Why did it keep the news of the virus to itself for so many weeks? Why did it pretend it is not lethal as we now know it is?
Or pretend that it was hard to transmit? Why did they refuse to allow in inspectors from the World Health Organisation?
And why have the WHO now been refused inclusion in China’s own investigation into the origins of Covid-19?
Questions also remain over the WHO’s seeming collusion with China over the crisis.
The CCP’s actions would be bad enough if the virus came from a wet market. But it must know that it is in a whole different realm of trouble if the virus turns out to have come from its lab.
If the CCP knew all along the virus had leaked from there then its cover-up is even more appalling. Because it means they knew exactly what they — and soon the world — were dealing with.
But in the absence of trust-worthy information, darker and wilder theories take shape in the shadows. For example, could the virus have come from the Wuhan lab and been released deliberately?
To those deeply skeptical of the CCP, it’s not hard to believe it might have done that.
They are in a trade war with America with a President who was making them lose. Now the CCP has managed to shut down the entire US economy with a virus.
The question for the rest of the world will soon be simple: What to do about this?
There are several steps. The first is to try to determine exactly how this virus came about. To have an international panel look into every possible cause. With no area of inquiry ruled out.
Now Donald Trump has claimed to have seen strong evidence that Covid-19 originated from a laboratory in Wuhan
To those deeply skeptical of President Xi Jinping and the CCP, it's not hard to believe that the virus was released deliberately Credit: Getty
That panel should also investigate how the communist regime lied their way through this virus. We need to learn just how they managed to make a local problem into a global one.
Then there is the question of what price they should pay. For accidental or not, there is no way that the CCP should be allowed to get away with this.
Goodness knows they have tried. Throughout this crisis there have been a set of PR gestures by the Chinese authorities.
In the absence of trust-worthy information, darker and wilder theories take shape in the shadows.
The government and government-linked firms such as Huawei have made a big show of donating masks and other equipment.
It is dismal. Like watching somebody who has just burned down your house offering you a watering can.
Last month, German newspaper Bild infuriated China by suggesting Beijing should pay reparations for the coronavirus pandemic.
It printed an “invoice’ for nearly 150billion euros (£130billion) leading the Chinese embassy in Berlin to accuse the paper of stirring up prejudice.
But once the engine of the other global economies — including ours — roars back into motion, we must make China pay.
We must re-think our relationship with them. We should recognise the country is not just a competitor but a liability.
We must punish them for the large-scale theft of information from British and American businesses it has engaged in for years.
We must do whatever we can to disrupt their “belt-and-road” empire-building, which the CCP has worked its way into, and “bought up” small and poor countries.
But it is not only such countries that are at the mercy of China and its President Xi Jinping. We may be in Britain too.
Before this Wuhan disaster kicked off, our Government approved Huawei to provide part of our 5G capability.
All of our allies warned against this. Our intelligence-sharing partners in the Five Eyes network (America, Australia, New Zealand and Canada) all strongly warned the British Government against allowing a firm that is indistinguishable from the CCP from having such access.
Experience shows Chinese firms cannot be trusted to provide such sensitive — and strategic — technology.
The Huawei decision was a rare misstep by the Johnson government. Now is the time to correct it.
We do not need to provoke China. But nor do we need to pander to it. And we should not be putting our future security in their hands.
Trade sanctions may be the only way to make the CCP understand just how much damage it has done to the UK and global economy.
Whatever the origins of this virus, we must show China that there is a cost to lying on this scale.
A cost to causing the whole world to be locked in our homes. And a cost to starting this global pandemic — whether deliberately or not.
Douglas Murray is the author of The Madness Of Crowds: Gender, Race And Identity, Bloomsbury, £20
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11531209/douglas-murray-we-need-to-make-china-pay/
DOUGLAS MURRAY We need to make China pay for coronavirus…and we need to walk away
COMMENT
Douglas Murray
2 May 2020
The Sun
JUST one trouble with conspiracies is that they sometimes turn out to be true. Especially when you are dealing with a government like China’s.
As viewers of the series Chernobyl know, non-democratic governments have a history of covering up their errors.
The Chinese authorities have done everything they can to hide what happened in Wuhan - especially the origins of coronavirus
In that case, the Soviets did everything they could to stop the world learning about the meltdown at their nuclear reactor.
Today the Communist Party of China has done everything it can to hide what happened in Wuhan. Especially the origins of the disease which has shut down the world.
Yesterday President Trump broke one of the taboos in all this. Which is needed.
The question is: What is the likelihood the coronavirus originated in the exact part of China that has a laboratory looking into just such viruses?
To date the Chinese authorities have allowed the world to believe in the bat-eating, wet-market theory on the origins of the epidemic.
They prefer embarrassment over suspicion.
But all along, people have wondered whether something less “accidental” is at play.
Now the US President has told reporters he has seen strong evidence that Covid-19 originated from the laboratory in Wuhan. The President’s remarks change the game.
China should be in enough trouble as it is. Even if it was true that the virus is an accident caused by a strange food custom, the Chinese Communist Party has a lot to answer for.
DARKER THEORIES
Why did it keep the news of the virus to itself for so many weeks? Why did it pretend it is not lethal as we now know it is?
Or pretend that it was hard to transmit? Why did they refuse to allow in inspectors from the World Health Organisation?
And why have the WHO now been refused inclusion in China’s own investigation into the origins of Covid-19?
Questions also remain over the WHO’s seeming collusion with China over the crisis.
The CCP’s actions would be bad enough if the virus came from a wet market. But it must know that it is in a whole different realm of trouble if the virus turns out to have come from its lab.
If the CCP knew all along the virus had leaked from there then its cover-up is even more appalling. Because it means they knew exactly what they — and soon the world — were dealing with.
But in the absence of trust-worthy information, darker and wilder theories take shape in the shadows. For example, could the virus have come from the Wuhan lab and been released deliberately?
To those deeply skeptical of the CCP, it’s not hard to believe it might have done that.
They are in a trade war with America with a President who was making them lose. Now the CCP has managed to shut down the entire US economy with a virus.
The question for the rest of the world will soon be simple: What to do about this?
There are several steps. The first is to try to determine exactly how this virus came about. To have an international panel look into every possible cause. With no area of inquiry ruled out.
Now Donald Trump has claimed to have seen strong evidence that Covid-19 originated from a laboratory in Wuhan
To those deeply skeptical of President Xi Jinping and the CCP, it's not hard to believe that the virus was released deliberately Credit: Getty
That panel should also investigate how the communist regime lied their way through this virus. We need to learn just how they managed to make a local problem into a global one.
Then there is the question of what price they should pay. For accidental or not, there is no way that the CCP should be allowed to get away with this.
Goodness knows they have tried. Throughout this crisis there have been a set of PR gestures by the Chinese authorities.
In the absence of trust-worthy information, darker and wilder theories take shape in the shadows.
The government and government-linked firms such as Huawei have made a big show of donating masks and other equipment.
It is dismal. Like watching somebody who has just burned down your house offering you a watering can.
Last month, German newspaper Bild infuriated China by suggesting Beijing should pay reparations for the coronavirus pandemic.
It printed an “invoice’ for nearly 150billion euros (£130billion) leading the Chinese embassy in Berlin to accuse the paper of stirring up prejudice.
But once the engine of the other global economies — including ours — roars back into motion, we must make China pay.
We must re-think our relationship with them. We should recognise the country is not just a competitor but a liability.
We must punish them for the large-scale theft of information from British and American businesses it has engaged in for years.
We must do whatever we can to disrupt their “belt-and-road” empire-building, which the CCP has worked its way into, and “bought up” small and poor countries.
But it is not only such countries that are at the mercy of China and its President Xi Jinping. We may be in Britain too.
Before this Wuhan disaster kicked off, our Government approved Huawei to provide part of our 5G capability.
All of our allies warned against this. Our intelligence-sharing partners in the Five Eyes network (America, Australia, New Zealand and Canada) all strongly warned the British Government against allowing a firm that is indistinguishable from the CCP from having such access.
Experience shows Chinese firms cannot be trusted to provide such sensitive — and strategic — technology.
The Huawei decision was a rare misstep by the Johnson government. Now is the time to correct it.
We do not need to provoke China. But nor do we need to pander to it. And we should not be putting our future security in their hands.
Trade sanctions may be the only way to make the CCP understand just how much damage it has done to the UK and global economy.
Whatever the origins of this virus, we must show China that there is a cost to lying on this scale.
A cost to causing the whole world to be locked in our homes. And a cost to starting this global pandemic — whether deliberately or not.
Douglas Murray is the author of The Madness Of Crowds: Gender, Race And Identity, Bloomsbury, £20
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11531209/douglas-murray-we-need-to-make-china-pay/
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Trudeau will be fine.
It's going to be ugly - speaking of countries that have non-working universal healthcare.
Trudeau will be fine.
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In alberta the government is trying to force the reopening of a meat packing plant that has had more than 900 covid cases.
Because putting a hamburger on the table is just that important.
The union says 85% of the workers are afraid to return to work tomorrow.
That doesn't include the guy who died.
In alberta the government is trying to force the reopening of a meat packing plant that has had more than 900 covid cases.
Because putting a hamburger on the table is just that important.
The union says 85% of the workers are afraid to return to work tomorrow.
That doesn't include the guy who died.
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The thing aboot meat plants, disinfecting the entire place take minutes.
So please explain how putting 1/3 of our food back on the table is a bad thing.
1/3 of the meat in Canadian stores comes just one of those processors.
The thing aboot meat plants, disinfecting the entire place take minutes.
So please explain how putting 1/3 of our food back on the table is a bad thing.
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This is about thinning and mind controlling the herd: create a situation, get everybody to obey through fear and then provide a solution. They want everybody vaccinated, chipped and dumbed down with a cashless society and a one world government. They already accomplished most of their plan. They scared the shit out of most people and shut down the whole planet. While we are locked away in self inflicted house arrest, most of their plan has been accomplished without a whimper.
This is about thinning and mind controlling the herd: create a situation, get everybody to obey through fear and then provide a solution. They want everybody vaccinated, chipped and dumbed down with a cashless society and a one world government. They already accomplished most of their plan. They scared the shit out of most people and shut down the whole planet. While we are locked away in self inflicted house arrest, most of their plan has been accomplished without a whimper.
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Its animal fat that bodies run on but that's okay, you go ahead and be like him and his shorter lifespan, I dont mind one bit.
The guy on the left is over 50 years old, eats one meal a day, and never eats meat.
Meat is not necessary. It is not essential. It is a lifestyle choice
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So that is the objective . After all these years of plenty we are going back to borscht and potato soup . Great accomplishment .
The guy on the left is over 50 years old, eats one meal a day, and never eats meat.
Meat is not necessary. It is not essential. It is a lifestyle choice
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Yet you and your buds make a point to self distance and brag about it . Stick it to the man Cliff . Stick it to the man .
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Geez, even war mongers have a sense of empathy and compassion.
George W. Bush calls for care and compassion during pandemic
Geez, even war mongers have a sense of empathy and compassion.
George W. Bush calls for care and compassion during pandemic