COVID-19 'Pandemic'

Ocean Breeze

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Just heard on CNN.

Death toll has reached 9600
 
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British politicians fear that the [coronavirus](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/coronavirus/index.html) pandemic might have been caused by a leak from a Chinese laboratory, The Mail on Sunday has revealed.

Senior sources in the British government say that while 'the balance of scientific advice' is still that the deadly virus was first transmitted to humans from a live animal market in Wuhan, a leak from a laboratory in the Chinese city is 'no longer being discounted'.

One member of Prime Minister Boris Johnson's emergency committee said last night that while the latest intelligence did not dispute the virus was 'zoonotic' – originating in animals – it did not rule out that the virus first spread to humans after leaking from a Wuhan laboratory.

The member of the 'Cobra' comittee, which receives detailed classified briefings from the security services, said: 'There is a credible alternative view [to the zoonotic theory] based on the nature of the virus. Perhaps it is no coincidence that there is that laboratory in Wuhan. It is not discounted.'

Wuhan is home to the Institute of Virology, the most advanced laboratory of its type on the Chinese mainland.

The $36million institute, based ten miles from the infamous wildlife market, is supposed to be one of the most secure virology units in the world.

The state-run People's Daily newspaper said in 2018 that it was 'capable of conducting experiments with highly pathogenic microorganisms' such as the deadly Ebola virus.

Scientists at the institute were the first to suggest that the virus's genome was 96 per cent similar to one commonly found in bats.

But despite its reputation for high security, there have been unverified local reports that workers at the institute became infected after being sprayed by blood, and then carried the infection into the local population.

A second institute in the city, the Wuhan Centre for Disease Control – which is barely three miles from the market – is also believed to have carried out experiments on animals such as bats to examine the transmission of corona viruses.

American biosecurity expert Professor Richard Ebright, of Rutgers University's Waksman Institute of Microbiology, New Jersey, said that while the evidence suggests Covid-19 was not created in one of the Wuhan laboratories, it could easily have been.

Prof Ebright said he has seen evidence that scientists at the Centre for Disease Control and the Institute of Virology studied the viruses with only 'level 2' security – rather than the recommended level 4 – which 'provides only minimal protections against infection of lab workers'.

He added: 'Virus collection, culture, isolation, or animal infection would pose a substantial risk of infection of a lab worker, and from the lab worker then the public.'

He concluded that the evidence left 'a basis to rule out [that coronavirus is] a lab construct, but no basis to rule out a lab accident'.

A study by the South China University of Technology concluded that Covid-19 'probably' originated in the Centre for Disease Control – although shortly after its publication, the research paper was removed from a social networking site for scientists and researchers.

Intriguingly, when the wildlife market was closed in January, a report appeared in the Beijing News identifying Huang Yanling, a researcher at the Institute of Virology, as 'patient zero' – the first person to be infected.

The claim was described as 'fake information' by the institute, which said Huang left in 2015, was in good health and had not been diagnosed with Covid-19.

As the rumors spread, Shi Zhengli, a lead researcher on batrelated viruses at the institute, went public to say she 'guaranteed with her own life' that the outbreak was not related to the lab.

Despite the denials, Beijing has issued new laws that call for the improved management of viruses and for facilities to ensure 'biological safety'.

In 2004, a leak from a Chinese laboratory led to an outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars), killing one person and infecting nine others.

The Chinese government said the leak was a result of negligence and five senior officials at the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention were punished.

Last night Prime Minister Boris Johnson's administration said it 'did not recognize' claims the virus came from a Chinese laboratory.

The Chinese embassy declined to comment, but in a letter to the Mail on Sunday last week, the embassy's Zeng Rong writes: 'Such reports completely disregard the tremendous efforts and huge sacrifice of China and its people, and deny China's significant contribution to global public health and safety.'

Ms Rong adds: 'China wasted no time in identifying the virus's pathogen, sharing the genetic sequence with the World Health Organisation, taking the most effective, strict and comprehensive measures to contain the spread of the disease, sharing experience with other countries in need, and providing assistance to more than 120 countries, including the UK, and to four international organisations.'

A Chinese embassy spokesman said: 'There has been no scientific or medical conclusion yet on the origin of COVID-19, as relevant tracing work is still underway.

'The WHO has made repeated statements that what the world is experiencing now is a global phenomenon, the source is undetermined, the focus should be on containment and any stigmatizing language referring to certain places must be avoided.'


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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...an-Startling-theory-no-longer-discounted.html
 

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Peter, Kate Beresford and family members in the garden watch Britain's Queen Elizabeth II during a televised address to the nation at their home


The Doyle family, in the village of Bishop's Itchington in Warwickshire, watch Queen Elizabeth II deliver her address to the nation


Val Cloke sits in her living room in the village of Hartley Wintney, west of London, watching the Queen's historic address

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...raise-monarch-stirring-televised-address.html
 

Mockingbird

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Question. If CheezWhiz said nothing and Anericans found out masks were going to Canada what would be the outcome be with the public?
If Canada were exporting masks to the US while needed in Canada how would you react?
CheezWhiz does everything "with music" meaning he puts on as big of a show as possible.


How would I feel? Well if I was told that our supply of N95 masks was going to Canada with no explanation I suppose I would be rightly pissed. However, if it were to be explained to me that the medical supply chain was something that saw multiple countries being dependent on one another to maintain, and that the supply chain was a back and forth I may be more accepting of masks leaving my country.

As an example, there is a pulp mill in Nanaimo that produces a product called K10S that is widely used in the manufacturing of medical supplies such as masks, gowns and curtains. The majority of its orders originate from, you guessed it, the good ole US of A, where it is used in the production of the aforementioned (and much needed) medical supplies, some of which are then returned to Canada. You follow me? See where I'm going here? And so if the powers that be as it were, were to explain this it is equally beneficial to keep supply chains open and friendly, I think I could come to see that it really is for the betterment of all parties involved.

Of course by no means do I suggest that a country should deplete its own supply, putting their own population at risk, that would be nonsensical. But since there is a co-dependency in many cases, it would be equally nonsensical for any country to adopt an "it's all mine" attitude. I would rather see countries work together than to retreat into their respective corners.
 
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Mockingbird

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Nope!!
New York, California, Washington States are all democratic strong holds.


Oof, how dizzy did that post make ya?

Edited to add, did you read it? The article spoke of the heartland:

On Sunday, initially at least, there was no White House briefing on the president’s public schedule. But the bad news kept coming. Coronavirus deaths continued to climb and reports of the heartland being unprepared for what may be on its horizon continued to ricochet around the media.

In the words of one administration insider, to the Guardian: “The Trump organism is simply collapsing. He’s killing his own supporters.”
 
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Mockingbird

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Nope!!
New York, California, Washington States are all democratic strong holds.


What does that have to do with anything? Last I looked he was President of the United States, not President of only the Republican States.
 

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What does that have to do with anything? Last I looked he was President of the United States, not President of only the Republican States.


It seems the states where the virus has the strongest hold are many of the Democrat states, where I suppose if Trump was a mean man it wouldn't hurt his feelings too much if the numbers in those states were "thinned out" a tad. :)
 

Avro52

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The Chinese have been at the forefront for thousands of years at pioneering in new cures. Please don't advertise your ignorance!

Trust China.

This weeks new oxymoron.
 

Avro52

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Peter, Kate Beresford and family members in the garden watch Britain's Queen Elizabeth II during a televised address to the nation at their home

The Doyle family, in the village of Bishop's Itchington in Warwickshire, watch Queen Elizabeth II deliver her address to the nation

Val Cloke sits in her living room in the village of Hartley Wintney, west of London, watching the Queen's historic address
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...raise-monarch-stirring-televised-address.html

I’m kinda shocked that she didn’t lash out at the governor of Michigan or brag about being number one on Facebook
 

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One can argue that considering that COVID-19 came to America by international travel, it was inevitable blue states would be hit hard initially. People in most red states have never left their county, much less traveled around the World. People in red states are less intelligent and educated than their blue state counterparts.
Okay if you say so .