COVID-19 'Pandemic'

B00Mer

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Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

Says a lot about the citizens of Vancouver .

Have you heard what's going on in the USA and Mexico..

They are breaking into stores for food and other shit..

It's now a war zone in México, looting, killing, rape. It's the purge.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/gang-of-70-thieves-loots-mexico-state-supermarket-2/

https://www.660citynews.com/2020/03/25/mexico-police-investigate-store-robberies-as-virus-spreads/

Gee, I hope Canuck isn't down there ;) :lol:
 

petros

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Where is the exponential spread we have been told about?
Give it two weeks. Which local hockey arenas has Vancouver booked for morgues? Any warehouses being converted to hospital space yet? Go to BC and city Tenders and have a boo at what is being rounded up.
 

Avro52

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They still would have been inferior.
Today's EVs rely on digital tech. Whether Ford or GM or Chrysler were making EVs over the past 117 years or not, they would have never altered the pace that digital has evolved.
By the way with current EVs an equivalent of 8 years of gasoline goes into an EV battery with a lifespan of 5 years. That means an ICE is still 20% greener than a Tesla.


The warranty is 8 years on a Tesla battery so I suspect that is the minimum life span.

Are saying that running my car for eight years on gas is the equivalent to the amount of gas it takes to make one battery?

I know it currently takes more energy to build EV's but that will also change over time. Humans are quite remarkable.

We've got a few hundred years to get it right.
 

captain morgan

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Make driving a real thrill.


Never a dull moment. At very least, it will keep the driver very alert what with the chances of death being so random


Numbers please.

I use about 3500 liters a year for reference.


google is your friend.


PS - while you're at it, get some quotes on replacement batteries for your EV
 

Avro52

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Never a dull moment. At very least, it will keep the driver very alert what with the chances of death being so random
google is your friend.
PS - while you're at it, get some quotes on replacement batteries for your EV


I don't have an EV.

I'll let the claimant explain.
 

petros

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Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

Numbers please.
I use about 3500 liters a year for reference.
You didn't try googling "How many gallon equivalent to making a Tesla battery" first?

Keep in mind that doesnt include manufacturing the rest of the EV.
 

Blackleaf

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Date....?

Well that's what I called it.
 

Blackleaf

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Well, I've done it. My first 8 to 4 shift. And I'm absolutely knackered.
 

Avro52

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You didn't try googling "How many gallon equivalent to making a Tesla battery" first?
Keep in mind that doesnt include manufacturing the rest of the EV.

You don't have the numbers in your photographic mind.

1 battery = 28,000 liters of gas.

We are talking about the battery manufacturing only.

I'm betting the actual number is about 4500 liters for an entire battery pack.

Just a guess.
 

Blackleaf

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Fraser Nelson
30 March 2020
The Spectator

UK coronavirus growth slowing, key adviser reveals



There are now signs of the growth in UK Covid cases slowing, according to Professor Neil Ferguson, who is emerging as the de facto chief strategist of the government response to the crisis. No government data has been issued to confirm this trend but Ferguson has access to other real-time data through SAGE, the medical emergency committee. He was on BBC Radio 4's Today programme and said:-

'In the UK we can see some early signs of slowing in some indicators. Less so deaths, because deaths are lagged by a long time from when measures come in force. But if we look at the numbers of new hospital admissions, that does appear to be slowing down a little bit now. It has not yet plateaued, so still the numbers can be increasing each day, but the rate of that increase has slowed.'

This is quite significant and raises the prospect of Britain being further along the epidemic curve than some had feared. Perhaps seeing a peak earlier than expected (given the ten-day time lag between infections and death). It also squares with what James Forsyth revealed over the weekend: that the government thinks the virus deaths will peak in early April, rather than May as they had earlier feared. A study last week from Prof Tom Pike of Imperial College's engineering department also pointed to a mid-April peak, with deaths dropping off rapidly after that peak is hit.

It’s unclear whether an earlier peak would be bad news (that we have not managed to ‘flatten the curve’ as much as hoped, meaning more deaths but a shorter duration) or whether the main Imperial College London group, which Ferguson chairs, is revising its assumptions on the potency of the virus.

Ferguson's interviews can disclose pieces of hugely important information not mentioned in his own reports let alone government statements. His original study, which promoted the government lockdown, said that this virus could claim 500,000 British lives: more than every other disease in Britain put together. But this was the top of a large range, the lower point (assuming various lockdown measures were followed) being 7,000. When giving evidence in parliament last week, Prof. Ferguson said social distancing means he’s now looking at fewer than 20,000 Covid deaths, two-thirds of which would have occurred anyway. This points to his rock-bottom figure of about 7,000, a death toll far other conditions like seasonal flu (which typically takes 17,000 British lives a year).

Ferguson’s model, like all models, seeks to estimate a great many things: how contagious the virus is and, crucially for NHS planning, how many people it is likely to hospitalise. And kill. For example, Ferguson's study assumes a death rate of 0.9 per cent, nine times higher than seasonal flu. The Italian experience indicates a 10 per cent death rate but a model last week from two professors at Stanford university posit a 0.01 per cent death rate. So highest figure in this range is, literally, a thousand times more than the lowest figure.

If UK Covid hospitalisations rates are slowing, as Prof Ferguson says, that is not a model: it's hard data. it could be a blip – or a sign that we might be a bit closer to turning the corner.

Prof Ferguson also told BBC Radio4 that between three per cent and five per cent of Londoners could be infected: given the capital's 8.9 million population that's almost 450,000 people. This is consistent with estimates from the Chief Medical Officer: that the real number of infections is 10 to 20 times higher than the figure for those who have tested positive. Why the gap? Because Covid can be fought off by most people's immune systems with mild or no symptoms: when that happens, antibodies are created.

If those with antibodies are immune to reinfection (which the government believes likely, but it's still unproven) then this suggests a small army of people in the capital ready to return to work. But to identify them, you'd need an antibody test. Prof Ferguson told the BBC that such a test is 'days rather than weeks' away. For what it's worth, that's not my understanding. My sources say it's closer to two or three weeks away. Everyone is desperate for a test, and a vaccine, but those involved in the UK Covid response take very different positions on this. Some want to cut red tape and get 3.5 million tests delivered. Others are wary of a rushing a test which might not work.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/uk-coronavirus-cases-slowing-key-adviser-reveals
 

Hoid

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You don't have the numbers in your photographic mind.

1 battery = 28,000 liters of gas.

We are talking about the battery manufacturing only.

I'm betting the actual number is about 4500 liters for an entire battery pack.

Just a guess.
Battery costs dropped 80% in the 6 years leading up to 2017.

Have they dropped another 80% since then or has the cost curve flattened?

Worst day in history for Canadian oil, therefore lets talk Tesla and how those EVs really don't make sense
 

Hoid

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9 people died in a care home in Bobcaygeon.

That would be the heartland of Ontario as i recall.