Conservatives to seek ban on ‘bath salts’ drug

[Locutus]

The Conservative government revealed plans Tuesday to ban a dangerous, hallucinogenic drug that has been linked to the gruesome attack in Florida where a man chewed off part of another man’s face.


Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq told a news conference Tuesday the government plans to regulate MDPV, a key ingredient in the drug commonly known as “bath salts,” also referred to on the street as Ivory Wave, Vanilla Sky, Cloud Nine, and Whack.


The aim is to give law enforcement tools to combat the “new and emerging drug that ruins lives and causes havoc in communities across the country,” Aglukkaq said.


The government intends to add the drug — which causes paranoia, hallucinations and aggressive behaviour — to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, placing it in the same category as heroin and cocaine.




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[SLM]

If the potential side effect of 'face eating' doesn't stop people from using it, I don't know what will.

Oh yeah, maybe if they make it illegal. That's sure to work!

In the end all it really means is that things we used to buy over the counter will be put behind lock and key.

 

[MapleDog]

Marijuana gives the munchies for chips,bath salt give the munchies for people's faces.

Which one should be legalized.

 

[damngrumpy]

What amazes me is the number of alternatives that the drug trade comes up with.
Governments will soon be banning garlic and tomatoes or celery stalks because
someone will find an alternate use for them. We have the date rape drugs, the
party drugs, cocaine, and several other new and innovative combinations. When
will the social conservative crowd get the message, people are unfortunately, going
to use drugs?
Throughout history this has been the case. from booze to drugs the beat goes on.
All the while if they had backed off on the tame stuff, like pot, at least many would be
content to do that instead. There is a great myth out there that pot leads one to the
next great high, and that is no more true than say, drinking booze will lead you to the
dreaded cocaine.
The real problem is in any event not being addressed at all. Access to jobs, equal
opportunity for wealth, a social stable climate that is not dominated by one group, and
education,.these are far better weapons than using a police club and a court judge the
latter two don't work at all. History has proven law, legislation, and political agendas
will never work in the face of legislating social morality education and changing the view
of society does. Most people don't drink and drive anymore, the reason is not because
of the law really, its because you and I and all the other neighbours believe such action
is unacceptable. When we determine its unacceptable, most people change their habits
if not we allow the courts to use different solutions keeping society in mind.
At present the courts and governments taunted by ideologues are using the law that is not
acceptable to the large segment of society, and besides you can't declare war on drugs
without addressing the issues that drive so many to use them.

 

[Nuggler]

The Conservative government revealed plans Tuesday to ban a dangerous, hallucinogenic drug that has been linked to the gruesome attack in Florida where a man chewed off part of another man’s face.


Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq told a news conference Tuesday the government plans to regulate MDPV, a key ingredient in the drug commonly known as “bath salts,” also referred to on the street as Ivory Wave, Vanilla Sky, Cloud Nine, and Whack.


The aim is to give law enforcement tools to combat the “new and emerging drug that ruins lives and causes havoc in communities across the country,” Aglukkaq said.


The government intends to add the drug — which causes paranoia, hallucinations and aggressive behaviour — to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, placing it in the same category as heroin and cocaine.




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Where will Harpo and the lads get their supply if it's illegal ? (insert rolling eyes here)

(eat face here)

 

[lone wolf]

Hell, I can remember getting buzzed inhaling ozone - the byproduct of a high school science project

 

[Nuggler]

Hell, I can remember getting buzzed inhaling ozone - the byproduct of a high school science project

Y'otta try freon...............voice goes up and there's a slight buzz...........on second thought.

Good for balloons though.





.................gone fishin.

 

[SLM]

Where will Harpo and the lads get their supply if it's illegal ? (insert rolling eyes here)

(eat face here)

You get a greenie just for the edit, lol.

 

[JLM]

What amazes me is the number of alternatives that the drug trade comes up with.
Governments will soon be banning garlic and tomatoes or celery stalks because
someone will find an alternate use for them. We have the date rape drugs, the
party drugs, cocaine, and several other new and innovative combinations. When
will the social conservative crowd get the message, people are unfortunately, going
to use drugs?
Throughout history this has been the case. from booze to drugs the beat goes on.
All the while if they had backed off on the tame stuff, like pot, at least many would be
content to do that instead. There is a great myth out there that pot leads one to the
next great high, and that is no more true than say, drinking booze will lead you to the
dreaded cocaine.

.

You make good points, but I've thought of one more- Booze, drugs etc. does reduce inhibitions so through experience I can see someone boozed up trying something more harmful. In my case it wasn't - I tried a joint, got absolutely nothing out of it and went right back to drinking beer. That was 47 years ago and I haven't touched a joint since. :lol:

 

[damngrumpy]

JLM I agree with what you say to a point. I am not an advocate for pot, or booze
for that matter. Booze, like rum and beer have been my choices like yours, pot it
never appealed to me but hey who am I to condemn someone else for a choice that
is no more harmful and probably less harmful than booze.
The problem is we let society go to hell in a hand basket in pursuit of the almighty
buck without regard to the consequences. If people were happy at least in some
measure with their lot in life they would approach drug use differently. A few examples,
we don't let children grow up and have a mind of their own. We fill them with our
religious and political values and in many cases we don't allow questions.
We can go all the way down to children can't throw snowballs on a playground because
someone might get hurt. We have entire minor hockey leagues that don't keep score.
We fill them full of our beliefs and send them out into the world to meet people who have
different ideas and there is no self control mechanism because we never allowed it to
happen. We didn't insist they get their fanny out of bed to go to their part time job in the
summer. In many cases we didn't insist they get a part time job.
We did everything for them for a generation and now we want them to behave like we did.
Please. I was drinking by the time I was sixteen, I was smoking when I first became a teen.
We drove cars on the frozen lake in the middle of the night, danger? What's that?
The only thing that can curb this is, Honest Education. No bull facts and interaction with the
people who partly or basically ruined their lives through health and other consequences backed
up with the real impact it could have for them. In addition, we have to show them the advantages
to not engaging in the worst behaviour. None of this Just Say No nonsense.
Yes it will cost money, an investment in progress always does and yes it will take participation and
time. Investments yield returns, looking for excuses, and engaging in verbal drivel does not.
Its time society addressed the real issues and provided help instead just condemnation and punishment.

Most of us should be aware, what they are really talking about is banning Epsom salts right?
Epsom Salts is a product used in agriculture. It is magnesium sulphate basically. but I
imagine more has been added to whatever they are ingesting.
The war on drugs has now come down to declaring war on magnesium sulphate does anyone
know how silly this is? Good God we have more enemy alien products than we have
defences. I think I'll go sniff some peanut butter.

 

[JLM]

Yep, that peanut butter has even gotten to be dangerous stuff in the past couple of years. Apparently there is a reason for this. We are too clean, what with people showering/bathing daily...........we used to pull the tub off the wall every Sunday night. We are not building up a resistance to any impurities, we are being sanitized physically as well as mentally.

 

[TenPenny]

Most of us should be aware, what they are really talking about is banning Epsom salts right?

Epsom salts is a synthetic amphetamine type drug?

I think you're confusing bath salt with 'bath salt'

The key ingredients that go into bath salts are the synthetic compounds MDPV (3,4-Methylenedioxypyrovalerone), mephedrone, pyrovalerone, and methylone. But there are many other ingredients used in addition to these, or in place of them. For example, many of the “bath salts” seized have been found to contain extremely high levels of caffeine.

 

[damngrumpy]

Yes I was confusing it somewhat I was also making a joke of the whole thing in
comparison to the problems that are real. This stuff is dangerous up to a point
but we have allowed it by attacking the weaker or soft drugs. spending billions
to control them. Face it there is way too much action on youth and illegal booze
and pot. For some reason the parents who did all the same things are hell bent
on making sure the adult teens will not do the same things they did.
Yes I said adult teens. When these young folks are eighteen and finished school
they are adults and society has not caught up to that yet. Americans are worse
they have an age of adults at 21 which is really not realistic.
It was 21 in my youth as well but I got in the bars a few years before that. This
age of majority is another great game like prohibition and the war on pot. It serves
on useful purpose and consumes billions to demonstrate we need more police and
a bigger court bureaucracy and that is the main goal really.

 

[taxslave]

Epsom salts is a synthetic amphetamine type drug?

I think you're confusing bath salt with 'bath salt'

The key ingredients that go into bath salts are the synthetic compounds MDPV (3,4-Methylenedioxypyrovalerone), mephedrone, pyrovalerone, and methylone. But there are many other ingredients used in addition to these, or in place of them. For example, many of the “bath salts” seized have been found to contain extremely high levels of caffeine.

All I got out of that is "methyl-ethyl bad $hit. And that is without even looking in the CANUTEC manual. None of them are in my compendium of pharmaceuticals either although it is getting to be a rather old book.

 

[TenPenny]

. None of them are in my compendium of pharmaceuticals either although it is getting to be a rather old book.

They aren't in there because they're new and synthetic, and that's why they aren't illegal: they're too new to have been listed.