My friend, that's not a "retrick", that's the only trick, as in one trick pony. That's all they got, so they'll be beating that dead horse till the votes are tallied.
Conservatives at 41% - majority territory
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not scrap it. change it. its the best he could contrive out of the farmers. it'll eventually tank by design. On our nickel no less.
Strahl has ordered the Wheat Board to put together a business plan defining operations in a dual marketing system. Not two-tiered. Dual. From a man who's party is supposed to represent minimal government.
heh
and so far the opposition is so seriously asleep at the wheel nobody's told Harper the farmers had better find a different angel. currently the Wheat Board contracts are guaranteed by the Treasury Board. In a dual marketing system, that's a very perverse form of fascism. The irony is its only a matter of time before the incoming oligarchy invokes Chapter 11 of NAFTA to put a stop to it.
Because even at their new peak of phone-based questionaire popularity, 41% is not a majority. It's called basic math. 100% is the entire population; and 50% +1 would be a majority of people. Thus a majority of people do not prefer Conservatives. In fact, even at those numbers, 59% of people polled do not prefer the Conservatives; they prefer the left wing parties in all of their different suits.
Why is it so hard to believe that Harper is only playing moderate because he has a minority? We all know the real Stephen Harper, from his days at the NCC & Reform/Alliance parties. We all know his true feelings on healthcare, Iraq, and many other issues. He has been a hard-right Conservative for many years, and all of a sudden, in the last few years he has changed and become a moderate? Riiiiiight, that's about as likely as Chretien turning into an honest man :lol:
A man can have his personal beliefs and rule a country on them.
Or a even greater man can have his personal beliefs, and run a country to the most neutral advantage between the 2 pulling forces.
I think Harper can be the latter one.
Or a even greater man can have his personal beliefs, and run a country to the most neutral advantage between the 2 pulling forces.
I think Harper can be the latter one.
People obviously embrace and accept Harper's "scary, far right" side? eh?
And what I meant was Harper has the most support by a wide margin over all other parties.
I guess 64% of the nation was against Chretien when he got his majority.
Runs both ways snowles, runs both ways.
And what I meant was Harper has the most support by a wide margin over all other parties.
I guess 64% of the nation was against Chretien when he got his majority.
Runs both ways snowles, runs both ways.
You may very well be correct...but I think many Canadians are not willing to take that chance. I don't blame them.
Well, considering the right has no party splitting it, my comparison still stands as valid. You're trying to compare the two when they have little in common.
Chretien won 3 majorities, and never had the 36% support you're talking about. They did win a majority in 1997 with 38.5% (though they increased it after that), so I suppose that 61.5% were against the governing party. However, if you want to break down the left/right comparison crap like I did earlier (and you are trying to compare though it has little to do with the original argument), only 34% voted for right wing parties in 1993, 29% in 1997, and 37% in 2000, which echoes what I said earlier. Nary a majority to be found there.
Slice it any way you want, but despite what you think, the numbers say that left wing ideology is very much alive - even in today's politics where we fellate the Conservatives - and has still constitutes the majority of the popular opinion, onwards from the crumbling days of the Mulroney empire.
That's the biggest reason why I don't want a Conservative majority, especially a dynasty like Chretien. The last thing Canadian politics needs is the left uniting and turning into a two-party race. We are so polarized already, and it would do nothing but harm.
It sure would be nice to see the actual PC Conservatives to grow a set and set themselves apart from this lame duck version of 'Tory' Conservatism. Despite your political stripe, uniting the right really took a lot of voices out of power.
Ok, perhaps now you can answer a question for me...do YOU personally believe that Harper has a hidden agenda (i.e. that he will govern differently with a majority government than what he is currently doing in a minority situation)?
If the answer is yes, then you agree with me.
If the answer is no, I have a few more questions: Why do you vote for Harper? Do you like the fact that he has increased spending by 8% this year, including more money for Quebec?
Interesting how this poll came out on the same day: Link
"Nationally, the Conservatives sat at 35 per cent in the poll, versus 31 for the Liberals, 13 per cent for the NDP and 10 per cent for the Green Party"
They might not be in majority territory after all...
"Nationally, the Conservatives sat at 35 per cent in the poll, versus 31 for the Liberals, 13 per cent for the NDP and 10 per cent for the Green Party"
They might not be in majority territory after all...
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They really should include the questions asked in the polls when reporting the results. First off the results only report the mean, so the Conservatives have what, somewhere between 38 and 32 % if the error margin is 3%, and the poll results are 95 % confident that that range contains the true mean of the population. But then another poll comes out, and the Conservatives might be anywhere between 44 and 38%, also with a 95% confidence that that range contains the true population mean.
Depending on how the question is phrased, the results will vary. Too much variability...
Depending on how the question is phrased, the results will vary. Too much variability...
Not even close to being tired my friend. People of your ilk are still playing the "scary" card with Harper after 3 years. I have at least 2 and half years of Dion is a French citizen before a Canadian before it becomes even remotely tired.
You should pay more attention to the flow of the posts before making ridiculous comments. I was not the one who brought up stuff from 15 years ago. I was responding to a poster that brought it up. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
My ilk? You don't know me well enough to make comments like that. Try finding a post in here where I said anything like hidden agenda, even use the search function, really I mean it. I've been critical of Harper, I've been critical of Dion and I'll probably continue being critical of you crit13 until you learn how to discuss without wide ranging generalizations and paint brushing tactics.
oh bull****. your kind keeps on bringing it up since strawmen and ancient history is all you've got to distract people with and ancient history can be verified.