The Liberals were booted from power to clean up their act. But all they did was vote in another lawyer from Quebec with ties to Chretien and Martin.
Nice job. Have fun looking across the floor at the government. You'll be looking for a long time.
Conservatives at 41% - majority territory
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The Liberals were booted from power to clean up their act. But all they did was vote in another lawyer from Quebec with ties to Chretien and Martin.
Nice job. Have fun looking across the floor at the government. You'll be looking for a long time.
Forced to do the same eh? So if they were forced to why weren't the Libs who faced a huge deficit like Ontario, you can't claim one was right while the other wasn't.
Health care transfers were increased after the books were balanced.
It's easy to ask for some sort of proof.
See, now was that so hard?
No, never did, but I'm not foolish enough to assume that the new Liberal Harper isn't abandoning everything he believes trying to get full power for nothing.
I'll wait and see instead, it could be wrong, it could be right.
Are we talking about the same defecit that was created by the accounting firm "hired" by the provincial Liberals? How convenient. I guess SARS, storms and a black out which shut down Ontario for 3 days could have nothing to do with it either.
All Mcguinty needed was a tax grab of $900 per Ontario resident for 4 straight years to balance that sucker out. $22 billion in extra revenue to balance a bogus 3.5 billion dollar defecit.
I've provided the exact same amount of proof as you did. Thanks for proving my point.
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only senseless pedantry. either you understand the horse Harper rode in on or you don't. I couldn't care less. if its that important to you I'll go back and edit my original statement by prefixing it with IMO even though it will be obviously redundant.
No, I'm talking about the deficit the Tory's had when they took power from the NDP and the reccession.
Mcguinty is a doink and a liar.
Proof of what, that Iraq didn't have WMD's, unmaned drones, mobile weapons factories, nuclear programs links to Al Queada, links to 9/11....all of it bs and the evidence was flimsy supporting any of it.
A proof is not a proof until it is proven, good thing Cretien knew this.
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Then it's only you that believes this.
To bad, I was looking forward to reading about this sounds interesting but most fiction is.
Please explain to me how giving money to provinces solves the fiscal imbalance. I thought the whole idea of the fiscal imbalance was getting to federal government OUT of issues that are provincial jurisdiction. How about not giving the provinces any money, and letting them raise taxes. The myth of the fiscal imbalance is nothing more than provincial governments wanting to pass the buck because they can't don't want to take the heat for raising taxes.
Your not in touch with your government. Some people get 100 bucks a month if they have kids. I Eat popcorn and drink beer while you work!
I'm looking at another government that needs to be booted to clean up their act. At least the liberals are still in the house unlike the previous corrupt conservative government.
I'm talking about the proof that Harper would send us into Iraq if he had a majority. It's pure speculation on your part and you know it.
I'm not at all surprised. Drinking beer while others work to support your lifestyle is an exemplary trait of the leftists. I'm sure you would be all for welfare paying out $100K per year.
If dreaming of the good ol days of 20 years ago makes you feel better, go right ahead. The fact remains that the Liberals are a corrupt and bankrupt party that's sporting a leader that has a greater allegiance to the country of France than Canada. Good luck in the next election. lol
That line is almost as tired and lame as the hidden agenda line. Theres so much more you could say about Dion, but not that he has greater allegiance to France.
You know, you would sound a whole lot more sincere if you weren't painting people with a stereotypical brush. Needless to say, just because you're of one political ideology or another doesn't make you either a welfare bum or a self-made success. Things like this, and talking about areas of the country having "pockets of common sense" show you to be little more than an insulting propagandic machine and makes you come across as an arrogant idiot that knows better than more than 59% of the country (all those who aren't Conservatives must be on the left side of the political spectrum, after all); it's doing nothing but killing what would otherwise be some valid points you raise.
Likewise, if dredging up arguments from 15 years ago (and 3 majority and 2 minority governments ago) to justify why a party should be vilified as "corrupt and bankrupt" is not only practiced, but revered, then you would be nothing more than a hypocrit. You're practicing the methods of Conservative politicians, who, like I said earlier, cannot make a statement without mentioning the Liberals; for a governing party that was supposed to centre around "common sense" and bringing dignity back to government, it's quite sad.
Actually, I did not comment on this. Yet I think Harper will be accountable if he had a majority not to send troops in since the money already spent on miltary hardware is useless and would put our soilders in harms way.
Welfare at $100K a year, rofl.. Conservatives are doing that already, for corporations and its in the billions. As for general welfare, I support 15000 K a year with job placement. Let welfare pay for itself, through contract work.
As for my lifestyle, a beer and a bag of popcorn is great.
Still whining that the liberals are corrupt. They are less corrupt then the conservatives. You never know Harper may win the next election with his hand in the pockets of the poor and handing out silver corporate welfare. Its better then a Dion Majority government.
I'd like to hear more about your thoughts on this Wheat Board stuff, Bit.....I think I understand what your saying, but I'm not 100% sure because I haven't been keeping up with the issue.
Harper is expected to just scrap the Board from my understanding. Living in Ontario we don't have such silly things as a wheat board, so the issue isn't on my radar to often.
Harper tabled a motion in the House of Commons in 2003 to back the U.S. in Iraq.
He of course won't do it now because he knows he was wrong.
Not sure about the next invented threat by the U.S. as Harper seems quick to jump on the American disater wagon.
Iraq is the primary reason I won't vote for the cons.
The Tories are climbing!!
Even 44% in their "weak spot" Ontario.
Canadians know that the Liberals lied about Harper putting men, with guns, in our cities.
He has had a good year of minority government, no screw ups, and the Liberals are in a mess with their dork of a leader Dion. If the Liberals wanted to rebrand their corrupt image in Canada, they would not be getting someone who was associated with Chretien!!
And FYI: Population in the Maritimes is stagnant and their is only so many seats out there anyways.
Quebec, hasn't quite shifted, but has made a statement about their politics. Quebec is a divided "nation within a nation". You could count on Quebec being Liberal/Bloc a 5 years ago, but Quebec is in a culture war and a big divide. They have made a shift right with the ADQ, and the Conservatives are on par (1% above) the Liberals in that province. Tories could never count on Quebec for a vote, but now things have changed, so don't anyone cast Quebec in with LPoC. Maybe Montreal, but not the entire province.
And many seats will be added to the west next election, Alberta is having a huge rush of population, and look how they swing - 100% Tory Blue. So Alberta is growing and thats growth for the Conservatives.
BC is growing too, and outside of the Lower Mainland it is a Conservative province.
Why can people not admit the majority of people in this country prefer the Conservatives over any other party.
Hardcore liberals, like many in this thread, cannot come to the realization that the Conservatives can be effective, popular, and win a majority.
I would have been Liberal in the 90s, but after all the chaos with Sponsership Scandal, and the Liberals corruptness shines through, I will never bring myself to ever vote Liberal again, unless things change drastically.. to which I would vote independent, lol.
And why are people saying "O just wait and see what he does if hes in a majority."
Thats the same retrick we have been hearing all along: LAST ELECTION: "Harper has a hidden agenda don't let him in power!"
He has a good minority government and the Liberals once again will say this election: "SURE, Harper put on a mask during his minority government, but don't give him the chance to reveal his hidden agenda in a majority government."
Thats all you Liberals can say!! Conservatives = evil. What will you say when we have a good period of time under a Conservative majority?
"oh, oh, hes just, um..."
Give it up, this nation is fed up with the LPoC, and slowly BUT SURELY this nation is making a tilt to the right, and guess what people, the right isn't as evil as the left will make them out to be.
Even 44% in their "weak spot" Ontario.
Canadians know that the Liberals lied about Harper putting men, with guns, in our cities.
He has had a good year of minority government, no screw ups, and the Liberals are in a mess with their dork of a leader Dion. If the Liberals wanted to rebrand their corrupt image in Canada, they would not be getting someone who was associated with Chretien!!
And FYI: Population in the Maritimes is stagnant and their is only so many seats out there anyways.
Quebec, hasn't quite shifted, but has made a statement about their politics. Quebec is a divided "nation within a nation". You could count on Quebec being Liberal/Bloc a 5 years ago, but Quebec is in a culture war and a big divide. They have made a shift right with the ADQ, and the Conservatives are on par (1% above) the Liberals in that province. Tories could never count on Quebec for a vote, but now things have changed, so don't anyone cast Quebec in with LPoC. Maybe Montreal, but not the entire province.
And many seats will be added to the west next election, Alberta is having a huge rush of population, and look how they swing - 100% Tory Blue. So Alberta is growing and thats growth for the Conservatives.
BC is growing too, and outside of the Lower Mainland it is a Conservative province.
Why can people not admit the majority of people in this country prefer the Conservatives over any other party.
Hardcore liberals, like many in this thread, cannot come to the realization that the Conservatives can be effective, popular, and win a majority.
I would have been Liberal in the 90s, but after all the chaos with Sponsership Scandal, and the Liberals corruptness shines through, I will never bring myself to ever vote Liberal again, unless things change drastically.. to which I would vote independent, lol.
And why are people saying "O just wait and see what he does if hes in a majority."
Thats the same retrick we have been hearing all along: LAST ELECTION: "Harper has a hidden agenda don't let him in power!"
He has a good minority government and the Liberals once again will say this election: "SURE, Harper put on a mask during his minority government, but don't give him the chance to reveal his hidden agenda in a majority government."
Thats all you Liberals can say!! Conservatives = evil. What will you say when we have a good period of time under a Conservative majority?
"oh, oh, hes just, um..."
Give it up, this nation is fed up with the LPoC, and slowly BUT SURELY this nation is making a tilt to the right, and guess what people, the right isn't as evil as the left will make them out to be.