Conservative MPs demand accountability for India trip

White_Unifier

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The entire family trotting around in Halloween costumes for 4 days before "business" wasn't leisure?

I mean he tried to present it as leisure.

Now, I have nothing wrong with the PM deciding hey, I have to go on a business trip anyway, so why not make it a leisure trip at the same time. Makes sense. But as far as I can tell, that's not how he presented it. He presented it as primarily a business trip with leisure being just an added bonus. Based on that, he was quite misleading since that was clearly a leisure trip first and foremost and a business trip a distant second to that. Had he been honest about it and paid out pocket (minus legitimate security), fine. But that does not appear to be what he did.

If he's going to portray it as primarily a business trip, then we have every right to question why he didn't just use Skype.
 

Colpy

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Would it be possible to get a days work out of any of these wankers?

They are doing their job, which is holding the gov't to account.

The Liberals have seriously damaged our relations with the world's largest democracy, and politicized the civil service in an attempt to shield Justin from the consequences of his own lies and stupidity.

2019 can't come soon enough.
 

petros

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I mean he tried to present it as leisure.

Now, I have nothing wrong with the PM deciding hey, I have to go on a business trip anyway, so why not make it a leisure trip at the same time. Makes sense. But as far as I can tell, that's not how he presented it. He presented it as primarily a business trip with leisure being just an added bonus. Based on that, he was quite misleading since that was clearly a leisure trip first and foremost and a business trip a distant second to that. Had he been honest about it and paid out pocket (minus legitimate security), fine. But that does not appear to be what he did.

If he's going to portray it as primarily a business trip, then we have every right to question why he didn't just use Skype.

"Added bonuses" are ethical violations.
 

White_Unifier

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But he isn't, is he?

Much like tater tot pimping his ass on the speaking tour at $30k per visit while he was supposed to be in Parliament, you know, getting paid to represent his constituents

I never said he paid it. I was just making the hypothetical point that had he been honest about the fact that it was a leisure trip first and foremost and offered to pay the leisure portion of the trip (which in this case ought to have been most of it seeing how in practical terms, it was primarily a leisure trip), then I would not have seen anything particularly unethical about it.

My problem is with the fact that he's presented it as if it was primarily a business trip and, correct me if I'm wrong, he didn't even offer to pay for the leisure portion of it. And worse yet, when we analyse what he appears to have accomplished there, he could have accomplished the same at a fraction of the cost through Gmail, WhatsApp, and Skype on a lower-end Samsung smartphone over Wi-Fi.

As for his speaking tours, I totally agree with you that he should not be collecting money whenever Parliament is in session at the very least. And even when it's not in session, he shouldn't be accepting payment when he's hired in his capacity as PM (though I agree that it's a grey area if they're hiring him to speak about his father, his life outside of his position as PM, or as the son of Pierre. We could give him the benefit of the doubt there. But as far as I can tell, those speaking tours were hiring him in his capacity as an MP and they were sometimes while Parliament was in session, and that eliminates all moral ambiguity.
 

captain morgan

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They are doing their job, which is holding the gov't to account.

The Liberals have seriously damaged our relations with the world's largest democracy, and politicized the civil service in an attempt to shield Justin from the consequences of his own lies and stupidity.

2019 can't come soon enough.

Trudeau's actions as they relate to carting his family along on so many trips stands a very good chance of being regarded as a flagrant misuse of government funds.

Although election day is 2 years away, the campaigning will be starting up soon enough and I expect that all Parties will be reminding the public of JT's many very poor decisions on the travel agenda