Conservative leadership race

mentalfloss

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I was actually considering voting Mackay but it looks like Alberta ****ed the Conservatives once again lol
 

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Erin O'Toole wins Conservative leadership race, reaches out to broaden blue tent

Erin O'Toole has won the leadership for the Conservative Party, promising to present a vision to make Canada more prosperous and reaching out to broaden the party's base of supporters.

After a six-hour delay due to glitches with the ballots, O'Toole took 57 per cent of the votes on the third and final ballot, compared to 43 per cent for second-place contender Peter MacKay.

O'Toole claimed victory after taking support from Leslyn Lewis, who finished with a surprisingly strong performance but dropped off on the second ballot. Derek Sloan dropped off after the first ballot.

In his acceptance speech, O'Toole promised to work to unite the party, champion Conservative values, and hold Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to account.

"We must continue to point out Liberal failings and corruption, but we must also show Canadians our vision for a stronger, more prosperous and more united Canada," he said.

"Canada can and must do better and Conservatives will work hard to earn the trust and confidence of Canadians in the next election."

Acknowledging the party needs to broaden its base to win the next election, O'Toole reached out to all Canadians in all regions of the country and from diverse backgrounds.

"I believe that whether you are Black, white, brown or from any race or creed, whether you are LGBT or straight, whether you are an Indigenous Canadian or have joined the Canadian family three weeks ago or three generations ago," he said.

"Whether you're doing well or barely getting by. Whether you worship on Friday, Saturday, Sunday or not at all … you are an important part of Canada and you have a home in the Conservative Party of Canada."

Results delayed for hours
The results were delayed by several hours because the machine used to open ballot envelopes damaged several thousand voting cards.

The technical glitch left the four candidates vying for the party's top job waiting in limbo throughout Sunday evening until the final result was announced shortly after 1 a.m. ET Monday..........More
 

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Not too thrilled with any of the candidates but I guess we could have done worse. Basically I lost interest when there was not going to be a leader from the West.
As long as turdOWE is gone I'm happy.
 

Twin_Moose

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Erin O'Toole courted the right of the Conservative Party and won

Early in the Conservative leadership race, Erin O'Toole identified an opening to Peter MacKay's right.

It presented a narrow path to victory for him — particularly for a candidate who had run as a consensus-building moderate in 2017's contest — but it was his best shot at winning.

And it worked.


With the help of social conservative members and the backing of most Conservatives in every part of the country except the Maritimes, O'Toole won an emphatic victory over MacKay early Monday morning. He captured 59 per cent of the vote and 57 per cent of the weighted points up for grabs.

It was clear from the first ballot that O'Toole was in a strong position.

The target for MacKay to hit was at least 40 per cent on the first ballot, close enough to the majority threshold that he could hold off O'Toole as the Ontario MP picked up most of the second- and third-choice support of members who voted for Derek Sloan or Leslyn Lewis.

But MacKay only dominated in his native Nova Scotia, winning barely a majority of the points at stake in Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick and falling short of 50 per cent in Newfoundland and Labrador. Quebec, where he was also expected to rack up points, went to O'Toole by a margin of 11 percentage points on the first ballot.

Lower results in the Conservative heartland — MacKay was third in Alberta and fourth in Saskatchewan, where Lewis finished first — meant that MacKay had only 33.5 per cent of points nationwide on the first ballot. O'Toole, with 31.6 per cent, was within striking distance.

In the second round, nearly two-thirds of Sloan's votes went to Lewis, a fellow social conservative. It was enough to propel her to first place in the popular vote, but only third in points. With about 21 per cent of Sloan's ballots, O'Toole was able to narrowly move ahead of MacKay on points after the second ballot.

While about a third of ballots belonging to Lewis were discarded after the second round — these members did not rank either O'Toole or MacKay on their ballot — those who did choose between the two remaining candidates went to O'Toole by a margin of nearly four-to-one, sealing his victory.

Social conservative strength
The role of the social conservative vote has been decisive in a number of recent leadership races. Andrew Scheer would not have defeated Maxime Bernier in 2017 without the backing of Conservative members who supported Pierre Lemieux and Brad Trost earlier in that contest's voting. It isn't a coincidence that a lot of the same people who worked on those two campaigns were involved with the Sloan and Lewis campaigns this time.

Doug Ford, who beat Christine Elliott in the 2018 Ontario Progressive Conservative leadership, also owed his victory to social conservative candidate Tanya Granic Allen, who backed Sloan in this race.

The support that Lewis built in this campaign — and the voters O'Toole courted — will be difficult to ignore. Lewis raised about $2 million and, after Sloan's elimination, had more raw votes than either O'Toole or MacKay on the second ballot. She was the top choice on that ballot across Western Canada, while MacKay was ahead in Ontario, Atlantic Canada and the North. After that second ballot, O'Toole was only leading in Quebec.

But after his third ballot win, O'Toole takes over a party with a membership that is not nearly as divided as it was in 2017.

With about 90,000 ballots on the final round, he won a majority of the initial 174,000 cast — something Scheer did not do three years ago. Both Western Canada, the base of the Conservative Party, and Ontario and Quebec, where the party needs to grow to form government, backed O'Toole......More
 

mentalfloss

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Bullshit.

Not at all.

The Conservatives lost a massive opportunity to widen their reach to people like myself who were actually considering to be first time Conservative voters.

Now they're stuck with a 40% max base which may or may not get them a minority government.
 

gerryh

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Not at all.
The Conservatives lost a massive opportunity to widen their reach to people like myself who were actually considering to be first time Conservative voters.
Now they're stuck with a 40% max base which may or may not get them a minority government.


McKay was and is liberal light. Why the fu ck would a conservative vote to merge the conservative party with the libs.

Keep in mind he threw his pc colleagues under the bus to ensure a position in the new CPoC and was as entitled as Payette when it came to using government jets. My opinion, McKay should have been tossed ages ago.
 

petros

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Not at all.
The Conservatives lost a massive opportunity to widen their reach to people like myself who were actually considering to be first time Conservative voters.
Now they're stuck with a 40% max base which may or may not get them a minority government.
Are you a member?
 

mentalfloss

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You do realize the Conservatives continue to gradually become more liberal, right?

Don't be in denial.

You can have a perfectly functioning progressive government with fiscally conservative policy.

And they would have had a better chance at beating Trudeau as well.
 

bob the dog

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Good luck to Erin O'Toole.

Anyone else think he looks like Bob Newhart? Do like that he has exposure to the military but not sure what side he was on. I'll be open minded and give him a chance but I won't bet money on him being the next prime minister.

Max Bernier with conservative support might have been a better idea.
 

gerryh

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Good luck to Erin O'Toole.
Anyone else think he looks like Bob Newhart? Do like that he has exposure to the military but not sure what side he was on. I'll be open minded and give him a chance but I won't bet money on him being the next prime minister.
Max Bernier with conservative support might have been a better idea.

No, Bernier was and is a whiny, self indulgent prick.