Conservative bosses cheating in elections

[Colpy]

Unforgiven;1393167 Really? The only way to save Canada from Harper according to you is to remove the opposition in parliament?

Okay....let's get this straight......

The idea of a coalition of three parties (the Liberals, the NDP, and the seditious Bloc) that commands the support of 63% of the Canadian people is A-OK, BUT the idea of a coalition of the Conservatives and the Liberals that commands the support of 65% of the Canadian people is "removing the opposition".

Do I have that right??

Unforgiven;1393167 Ah so it's bigotry that spurs you into taking an active role in our political future.

Better a little sensible bigotry and thoughtful self-confidence than idiotic relativism.

Unforgiven;1393167 you said that just earlier in this message you posted. I have to wonder if you know what democracy is and why you think the public would get to vote on some measure of merger within the two parties? You do understand that it's the membership of the party that votes on the make up of the party which is presented to the public to elect or not, don't you? Because you seem to have it backward in what you present here.

Did you, or did you not support the idea of a coalition to remove Harper?

Unforgiven;1393167 Canadians are never happy with the status quo. That in part, is what makes us a progressive nation. Now I understand you have a serious dislike for Asians as you feel excluded from that culture in your area. In Toronto where I live, and there is no where else that is even close to as multicultural as Toronto, I enjoy all the benefits of Multiculturalism. Where putting the focus on the good aspects of many cultures adds to the vibrant life of the city, while dealing with the small amount of negative aspects brought along with some people, who incidentally hate the idea of multiculturalism just like you, and transport their old grudges to Canada. But that is a very small problem to deal with when people pull together rather than apart as you suggest.

Ah, so you like seeing women in Burkas, men walking around openly armed when you are not permitted, the restriction of free speech, or....how about sharia law? Polygamy?

Multiculturalism is cultural suicide.

Immigrants come HERE because our culture is superior..........so why undermine it?

 

[Trotz]

Unforgiven is biased, he doesn't have a problem with Canada being destroyed because he himself is probably an immigrant and is not remotely Canadian. Yet, if Canadians started migrating to Hong Kong and India and changed the local culture he would be up in arms and would call us the racist ones - hell he's already suggested multiple times that we're racist for allowing them in so we're effectively racist despite what we do.


I've seen plenty in the Lowermainland to know that Richmond and Surrey aren't remotely Canadian anymore. "Youth Gangs" speaking in a foreign language and wielding machetes is not a part of Canadian culture. Neither are all the signs in Cantonese and the Dim-Sum restaurants every block. .

The Government of Canada was worried when we had the 2010 Olympic Games. People had a good time, the RCMP wasn't enforcing a nightlife curfew and people were proud of Canada. That's how it should be everyday but it is not.

Okay....let's get this straight......

The idea of a coalition of three parties (the Liberals, the NDP, and the seditious Bloc) that commands the support of 63% of the Canadian people is A-OK, BUT the idea of a coalition of the Conservatives and the Liberals that commands the support of 65% of the Canadian people is "removing the opposition".

The Bloc is a mixed bag but we can expect they would just use a coalition to ask for more money. It's the far-left elements within the Liberals and the NDP that I would be more worried about. Canada is already an "open country" as it is and someone like Jack Layton and his fellow NDPers have stated time and time again they would love to a have a hundred million people in Canada and cut all relations with the United States.

That's effectively what immigration amounts to. The United States has only talked of a tighter border with Canada ever since Trudeau's multiculturalism. Mexico might be the backdoor for Latinos. Canada is the backdoor for Asian and Muslim terrorists. It'll be a matter of time at our current rate that we'll need a visa just to enter the United States.

http://www.financialpost.com/magazine/Editor+Letter+case+million+Canadians/3938655/story.html

 

[CDNBear]

Unforgiven is biased, he doesn't have a problem with Canada being destroyed because he himself is probably an immigrant and is not remotely Canadian.

Actually, not only is he 100% Canadian, he's deeply patriotic. Hence his lack of a nationalist slant.

Yet, if Canadians started migrating to Hong Kong and India and changed the local culture he would be up in arms and would call us the racist ones - hell he's already suggested multiple times that we're racist for allowing them in so we're effectively racist despite what we do.

One mans migration, is another colonization.

I've seen plenty in the Lowermainland to know that Richmond and Surrey aren't remotely Canadian anymore. "Youth Gangs" speaking in a foreign language and wielding machetes is not a part of Canadian culture. Neither are all the signs in Cantonese and the Dim-Sum restaurants every block. .

I like dim sum and real Chinese food.

The Government of Canada was worried when we had the 2010 Olympic Games. People had a good time, the RCMP wasn't enforcing a nightlife curfew and people were proud of Canada. That's how it should be everyday but it is not.

I'm proud of Canada.

 

[Trotz]

You should consider a vacation to China, dormitory beds are just $5 in Shanghai and Shanghai has better cuisine than Richmond or somewhere out in Ontario.

Actually, not only is he 100% Canadian, he's deeply patriotic. Hence his lack of a nationalist slant.

There were a lot of those people in the Soviet Union but after 1991 they were a fringe minority. "Flag waving Patriotards" are half the reason our countries are in a mess. Nothing better for the Government than to rule uneducated masses who only care about beer and lady gaga.

 

[mentalfloss]

The Liberals stole something like 100 million taxpayer dollars. AFTER the referendum, not before.

If we're talking strictly dollars here - then $100 million of corruption is still peanuts compared to $30+ Billion for jet fighters we don't need. The difference out of your pocket is likely $5 for the former and $100 for the latter.

Either way, corruption is bad and we need way more transparency in order to resolve this problem. I haven't been following the politics lately, but which party is most in favour of transparency right now?

 

[Avro]

If we're talking strictly dollars here - then $100 million of corruption is still peanuts compared to $30+ Billion for jet fighters we don't need. The difference out of your pocket is likely $5 for the former and $100 for the latter.

Either way, corruption is bad and we need way more transparency in order to resolve this problem. I haven't been following the politics lately, but which party is most in favour of transparency right now?

100 million is a drop in the bucket considering they paid down the debt by over a 100 billion. How much has the con overspending cost us so far?

200 billion?

Heck, if the cons had there way we'd be more in debt because they wanted to get involved in Iraq.

Fiscal conservative is an oxymoron.

 

[DaSleeper]

I never saw any liberals crying about the $2 billions cost for a useless gun registry.......

 

[captain morgan]

If we're talking strictly dollars here - then $100 million of corruption is still peanuts compared to $30+ Billion for jet fighters we don't need. The difference out of your pocket is likely $5 for the former and $100 for the latter.

So, stealing 100 million to line the pockets of party friends is A-OK, but spending 30 billion on a contract that was initiated by the Liberals and is for the benefit of all Canadians is bad.

Gotcha

 

[mentalfloss]

So, stealing 100 million to line the pockets of party friends is A-OK, but spending 30 billion on a contract that was initiated by the Liberals and is for the benefit of all Canadians is bad.

Gotcha

Ha! Is that true?

Wow.

I'm definitely not voting for either then.

And to answer my question on transparency, I looked it up and none of the major parties seem to really care about that. The closest thing to it is the NDP's push for net neutrality.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Pared of all the noise this still comes down to the conservatives once again being major hypocrits... when other people break the rules it's bad but due to their near perfection(in conservative minds) it's somehow an act of courage to engage in the same sleazy and illegal behaviour they spent years whinning about from the other side of the House.

 

[polaris]

Contempt...misleading the House (lies)...cheating on election expenses...Attack ads...criminal lobbying...ignoring or firing scientific advisors...giving money to the wealthy while cutting services to the needy...deception...manipulation...

Some may say it is the art of politics...I say it is the artifice of evil.

 

[DaSleeper]

Contempt...misleading the House (lies)...cheating on election expenses...Attack ads...criminal lobbying...ignoring or firing scientific advisors...giving money to the wealthy while cutting services to the needy...deception...manipulation...

Some may say it is the art of politics...I say it is the artifice of evil.

I suppose you must be talking about government in general, because all those things have been done by all parties.....

 

[Cliffy]

Pared of all the noise this still comes down to the conservatives once again being major hypocrits... when other people break the rules it's bad but due to their near perfection(in conservative minds) it's somehow an act of courage to engage in the same sleazy and illegal behaviour they spent years whining about from the other side of the House.

They all do that but it is more about jealousy than outrage.

 

[CDNBear]

I suppose you must be talking about government in general, because all those things have been done by all parties.....

Nah, only the neo-cons are capable of such unethical behavior DaS.

You should know how ideological blinders and moral relativism is the way to view reality, by now.