Conservative apology for racist comments, what hypocrites!

Derry McKinney

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Re: Conservative apology for racist comments, what hypocrite

WMD aside

No putting them aside, Blue Boy. They were the justification for the war and without WMD being there and being an imminent threat, the war was illegal. Try to sidestep it all you want, but that is reality. You are supporting war criminals.



I dont think anyone disputes that Saddam aided and abetted terrorists

Proof? He had no involvement with al Qaeda. He had nothing to do with attacks on the US.

and inflicted terrorism on his own people, slaughtering thousands over the years.

The US protected him for much of that.

You make all the excuses you want, Blue Boy. The fact is that the US launched an illegal invasion that has been a failure. It has led to a civil war, just as so many who opposed the invasion on the left and right said it would. The war is extremely unpopular around the world, including in Canada, and yet Stephen Harper would have supplied as many of our troops as he could.
 

Chake99

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The US launched a war and lied about the reasons.

If they cannot give honest reasons there most probably aren't any. We may have supported them if they said to go to get rid of Saddam, but they didn't; they made up a bunch of BS.
 

Hard-Luck Henry

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You're unlikely find many apologists for Saddam here, blue, and if 'taking out' homicidal maniacs and environmental terrorists really was the agenda, then they could've started closer to home, don't you think?

Like Pennsylvania Avenue.
 

Jay

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Or Downing St.
 

DasFX

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Re: RE: Conservative apology

bluealberta said:
Yeah, just like all the liberals who made horribly derogatory comments about the US and George Bush. No apologies there either, I see.

But the stuff about GWB and the Yanks was true and recent.
 

bluealberta

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Derry McKinney said:
Speaking the truth about George Bush and his policies is verbotten to many on the right, DasFX.

And the truth is subjective to people on the left. I take comfort in the fact that when (not if) the terrorists attack Canada, the US will be there to defend us, because God knows we couldn't do it, and nobody on the world stage gives a rats ass about Canada to want to defend us. Give it time, Chamberlains, give it time. :twisted:
 

DasFX

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Re: RE: Conservative apology

bluealberta said:
Derry McKinney said:
Speaking the truth about George Bush and his policies is verbotten to many on the right, DasFX.

And the truth is subjective to people on the left. I take comfort in the fact that when (not if) the terrorists attack Canada, the US will be there to defend us, because God knows we couldn't do it, and nobody on the world stage gives a rats ass about Canada to want to defend us. Give it time, Chamberlains, give it time. :twisted:

Firstly, I seriously doubt an attack on Canadian soil, at least on purpose. Secondly, any US response would hardly be a rescue. I seriously doubt the US would get involved just out of the kindness of their hearts.
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: Conservative apology

DasFX said:
bluealberta said:
Derry McKinney said:
Speaking the truth about George Bush and his policies is verbotten to many on the right, DasFX.

And the truth is subjective to people on the left. I take comfort in the fact that when (not if) the terrorists attack Canada, the US will be there to defend us, because God knows we couldn't do it, and nobody on the world stage gives a rats ass about Canada to want to defend us. Give it time, Chamberlains, give it time. :twisted:

Firstly, I seriously doubt an attack on Canadian soil, at least on purpose. Secondly, any US response would hardly be a rescue. I seriously doubt the US would get involved just out of the kindness of their hearts.

I hope you are right. But I don't fall for that "we have no enemies so why would anyone go after us" stuff either. I think if something happened, we would be looking for the US for a response. :twisted:
 

Chake99

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The U.S. would help us if we were attacked by terrorists just like we helped them. We DID go into Afghanistan and help them.

Iraq was a totally irrelavent pile of tripe that 9/11 was used to justify.
 

Derry McKinney

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May 21, 2005
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The US would help us, Chake. So would most of Europe and a good chunk of Asia. Hell, South Americans and Africans would chip in if they could.

This myth that we are dependent on the US has got to stop. The corporate world has been trying to make it a self-fulfilling prophecy for a quarter of a century now and they still haven't managed it.

The big problem is that some Canadians are starting to believe it. Not a lot, judging by the polls, but enough that you can't have an intelligent conversation on the internet anymore.
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: Conservative apology

Derry McKinney said:
The US would help us, Chake. So would most of Europe and a good chunk of Asia. Hell, South Americans and Africans would chip in if they could.

This myth that we are dependent on the US has got to stop. The corporate world has been trying to make it a self-fulfilling prophecy for a quarter of a century now and they still haven't managed it.

The big problem is that some Canadians are starting to believe it. Not a lot, judging by the polls, but enough that you can't have an intelligent conversation on the internet anymore.

You are right, it is hard to have an intelligent conversation with people who spread lies, unfounded allegations, and fearmongering without an hesitation. And just how long do you think it would take for all these other countries to come to Canadas aid? And what would they all want in return? Or do you honestly think that these countries would come running to our aid out of the goodness of their hearts? How naive, and how scarey. :twisted:
 

Derry McKinney

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So you choose to perpetuate the myth that we are dependent on the USA? If you want, I can introduce you to wonderboy Andrew Scheer. He hates Canada too.
 

bluealberta

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Derry McKinney said:
So you choose to perpetuate the myth that we are dependent on the USA? If you want, I can introduce you to wonderboy Andrew Scheer. He hates Canada too.

I don't hate Canada, and neither do I hate the US. Are we dependent on the US? Certainly we are in a lot of ways. In a lot of ways they are dependent on us too, just not as many. To think that we are not dependent on them is simply naivety at its finest. The difference between you and I on this topic is that I don't fear the US, and know that Canada, with half a chance, and a government that was truly out for the country instead of the party, could be competitive in any market in the world. I have confidence in Canada, and I have no fear of the US. :twisted:
 

Derry McKinney

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I'm not buying it, Blueboy. You've bought into the myth that we are dependent on the US and have no sovereignty worth saving. It's crap, but it's the kind of crap that has been bankrupting farmers since Reagan decided that raping the world was good for business, so I'm not surprised that you'd buy into it.