Congress says "No, no...we insist"

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Congress Spends Half Billion On Tanks Army Doesn’t Even Want



How many WH Tours would that cover?
Via Fox News:
Built to dominate the enemy in combat, the Army’s hulking Abrams tank is proving equally hard to beat in a budget battle.
Lawmakers from both parties have devoted nearly half a billion dollars in taxpayer money over the past two years to build improved versions of the 70-ton Abrams

But senior Army officials have said repeatedly, “No thanks.”

It’s the inverse of the federal budget world these days, in which automatic spending cuts are leaving sought-after pet programs struggling or unpaid altogether. Republicans and Democrats for years have fought so bitterly that lawmaking in Washington ground to a near-halt.

Yet in the case of the Abrams tank, there’s a bipartisan push to spend an extra $436 million on a weapon the experts explicitly say is not needed.

“If we had our choice, we would use that money in a different way,” Gen. Ray Odierno, the Army’s chief of staff, told The Associated Press this past week.

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Sal

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Am I missing something here...doesn't this fall upon the Republican shoulders and not upon Obama?
 

EagleSmack

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isn't it congress...that's why I'm confused...don't they have a majority...sorry, don't understand how this works?

No no no my friend. That is what the libs like to whine about... the Republicans in Congress.

Congress has two "Houses"... The Senate and the House of Representatives.

The Democrats control the Senate and the Republicans control the House of Representatives.

So the Democrats control 2 of the 3 legislative bodies. The Senate and the Executive Office (President Obama).

The Democrats whine like b*tches because the Republicans won't let them do whatever they want.
 

Sal

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No no no my friend. That is what the libs like to whine about... the Republicans in Congress.

Congress has two "Houses"... The Senate and the House of Representatives.

The Democrats control the Senate and the Republicans control the House of Representatives.

So the Democrats control 2 of the 3 legislative bodies. The Senate and the Executive Office (President Obama).

The Democrats whine like b*tches because the Republicans won't let them do whatever they want.
thanks, I was confused about the Senate and the House of Representatives.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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No no no my friend. That is what the libs like to whine about... the Republicans in Congress.

Congress has two "Houses"... The Senate and the House of Representatives.

The Democrats control the Senate and the Republicans control the House of Representatives.

So the Democrats control 2 of the 3 legislative bodies. The Senate and the Executive Office (President Obama).

The Democrats whine like b*tches because the Republicans won't let them do whatever they want.
The Presidency is a legislative body?
 

EagleSmack

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The Presidency is a legislative body?

Well that was a mistake on my part. I was trying to differentiate between the three branches. Executive, Legislative, and Judicial but was going too quickly.

But you were just being a troll. Right?

does this mean I'm still confused?

He was being a troll. I should have slowed down a bit before Ward Churchill came in.

The bottom line is the Republicans do not control Congress as the retards would like to make everyone believe. However they control the House of Representatives so the Senate (controlled by the Democrats) and the Executive Branch (Controlled by Democrats) have a convenient scapegoat for their failures.

When Obama first took office the Democrats completely controlled both Houses. There was nothing to stop the Democrats. Basically the dog caught the bus and didn't know what to do with it. So they made everything worse. Because of the disaster of Obama's first two years the Rebublicans gained the House of Representative in the mid-term elections. Now the Dems can do what they always do... lie, blame and fail.
 

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The military industrial comples is indeed complex. Cut the funding and lose jobs.

Republicans do dominate in total...277 to Dems 254

And yes, most refer to 'the house' as Congress and 'the Senate' as separate entities.allthough the article has chosen to not reflect these details.



113th United States Congress


Senate

Democratic (53)

Republican (45)



House of Representatives


Democratic (201)

Republican (232)
 

EagleSmack

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The military industrial comples is indeed complex. Cut the funding and lose jobs.

Republicans do dominate in total...277 to Dems 254

And yes, most refer to 'the house' as Congress and 'the Senate' as separate entities.allthough the article has chosen to not reflect these details.



113th United States Congress


Senate

Democratic (53)

Republican (45)



House of Representatives


Democratic (201)

Republican (232)

Well this is where your numbers are meaningless. The houses are separate and it doesn't matter how many are from the GOP or Democrats except in each separate house.

The GOP controls only the House of Reps and the Democrats control the Senate and Presidency... end of story.

So SAL... Tay is a prime example of the typical of a fan of the Democrats twisting things so they appear to be blameless to as many dumb Americans as possible.
 

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Well this is where your numbers are meaningless. The houses are separate and it doesn't matter how many are from the GOP or Democrats except in each separate house.

The GOP controls only the House of Reps and the Democrats control the Senate and Presidency... end of story.

So SAL... Tay is a prime example of the typical of a fan of the Democrats twisting things so they appear to be blameless to as many dumb Americans as possible.
But you don't twist thing to make excuses for the republicans who are belligerent toward democrats just because they don't always get their own way. In the OP it seems to say that both dems and repubs are pushing together to foist these tanks on a military that says they don't need them. How do you make this into an us verses them battle when they are both pushing for the same thing?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Well that was a mistake on my part. I was trying to differentiate between the three branches. Executive, Legislative, and Judicial but was going too quickly.

But you were just being a troll. Right?
No, I was giving you a chance to correct yourself.

Being a troll would have been something like "Hey, Smacky, if you think the Presidency is a legislative body, I'll assume you joined the Marines after you flunked out of high-school civics."



He was being a troll. I should have slowed down a bit before Ward Churchill came in.
See, now, this is being a troll. So let's analyze. You accuse me of being a troll for giving you a chance to correct yourself, then in the same post throw what you conceive as an insult at me.

You're a hypocrite. That's not trolling. That's speaking the truth.
 

EagleSmack

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But you don't twist thing to make excuses for the republicans who are belligerent toward democrats just because they don't always get their own way.

The Republicans that have been elected into office answer to their constituents... not to the Democrat party. If their constituents wanted a Democrat they certainly could have elected one.

No, I was giving you a chance to correct yourself.

Being a troll would have been something like "Hey, Smacky, if you think the Presidency is a legislative body, I'll assume you joined the Marines after you flunked out of high-school civics."




See, now, this is being a troll. So let's analyze. You accuse me of being a troll for giving you a chance to correct yourself, then in the same post throw what you conceive as an insult at me.

You're a hypocrite. That's not trolling. That's speaking the truth.

You were trolling. As you are now.
 

EagleSmack

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No matter what the Corps taught you, Smacky, mindless repetition of a statement is not an argument.

And again!

"Duh. . . you wuz so!" The crystalline purity of Marine logic.
I don't recall saying that. That must be the troll blood getting warmed up Ward.

Someone seems a little green about the Marines. Poor guy. Dress Blue envy?