Common citizenship?

Would you support a common citizenship and passport between Canada and another?

  • Totally.

    Votes: 3 15.8%
  • In principle.

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • Not at all.

    Votes: 13 68.4%
  • Other option.

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • Total voters
    19

PoliticalNick

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Mar 8, 2011
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You don't trust a free labour market? You think workers all need to be molly-coddled?

Afraid to lose your job?

I don't trust opening our borders and social systems up to people who have never paid a penny towards Canada.

I'm afraid that many people will lose their jobs to foreigners who will work for $5/day and have no skills or training. Aren't you afraid for your family when all of a sudden most of the truckers can't speak or read english, have zero experience and are barreling down the roads at highway speed next to your kids? Aren't you scared when we have untrained personnel with no idea of what they're doing running excavators for $2.50/hr.

Oh, BTW, I am afraid to lose my job. Not because I am lazy or don't do a good job but because I have a girlfriend & 5 kids that depend on my income to eat and have a house and transportation. I have police & schools & welfare bums relying on my $50k contribution to the taxman every year. I have charities I support counting on my donations to give poor CANADIANS a christmas meal and gifts. Things like this obviously never enter your peanut sized brain when you propose asinine ideas of bringing in foreigners to use our health & welfare systems and steal our jobs.
 

taxslave

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I don't trust opening our borders and social systems up to people who have never paid a penny towards Canada.

I'm afraid that many people will lose their jobs to foreigners who will work for $5/day and have no skills or training. Aren't you afraid for your family when all of a sudden most of the truckers can't speak or read english, have zero experience and are barreling down the roads at highway speed next to your kids? Aren't you scared when we have untrained personnel with no idea of what they're doing running excavators for $2.50/hr.

Oh, BTW, I am afraid to lose my job. Not because I am lazy or don't do a good job but because I have a girlfriend & 5 kids that depend on my income to eat and have a house and transportation. I have police & schools & welfare bums relying on my $50k contribution to the taxman every year. I have charities I support counting on my donations to give poor CANADIANS a christmas meal and gifts. Things like this obviously never enter your peanut sized brain when you propose asinine ideas of bringing in foreigners to use our health & welfare systems and steal our jobs.

But think of all the good paying jobs that would be created for government employees to administer to the perceived needs of this influx of needy. I can see thousands of jobs for social workers, elder care, immigration lawyers, translators, the list goes on.
 

Machjo

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But think of all the good paying jobs that would be created for government employees to administer to the perceived needs of this influx of needy. I can see thousands of jobs for social workers, elder care, immigration lawyers, translators, the list goes on.

I doubt it. Most would want to stay with their families. Wealthier and more educated Mexicans would not want to pay really high taxes so they'd likely vote Conservative or something. I don't think it woudl really be that bad.

The main thing would just be removing bureaucracy and obstacles to movement.

The rest of the irrational fear is just stereotypes I think.
 

PoliticalNick

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I doubt it. Most would want to stay with their families. Wealthier and more educated Mexicans would not want to pay really high taxes so they'd likely vote Conservative or something. I don't think it woudl really be that bad.

The main thing would just be removing bureaucracy and obstacles to movement.

The rest of the irrational fear is just stereotypes I think.
Not in the least. It is very rational and logical that the poor in a poor country will do anything to be the poor in a rich country with one of the best social welfare programs in the world. You are not gonna see someone who has to beg on the streets in Mexico where there is very little welfare stay there to be with their family. What you will see is that beggar move their whole family to Canada because our welfare checks are bigger than most Mexican's paychecks.

I'm not picking on Mexico. It would be the same for any developing or 3rd world nation.

I don't know how you came up with this scheme but you are obviously a socialist mental midget.
 

Machjo

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Not in the least. It is very rational and logical that the poor in a poor country will do anything to be the poor in a rich country with one of the best social welfare programs in the world. You are not gonna see someone who has to beg on the streets in Mexico where there is very little welfare stay there to be with their family. What you will see is that beggar move their whole family to Canada because our welfare checks are bigger than most Mexican's paychecks.

I'm not picking on Mexico. It would be the same for any developing or 3rd world nation.

I don't know how you came up with this scheme but you are obviously a socialist mental midget.

Do you honestly believe Canadian social security would remain unchanged if there was an influx of applicants. It woudl not take long for it to be streamlined to the point where it would be better to be poor in cheap Mexico than expensive Canada.

Some Canadian poor might even move their for affordability.
 

damngrumpy

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Mar 16, 2005
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Oh for Gods sake Canada is a large empty country so lets theoretically fill it up
with every Tom **** and Harry we can find. Canada is a nation unto itself and
should remain so. If the Turks and Caicos want to join Canada as part of our
nation I would entertain that idea but not some common citizenship.
No I don't want Mexico part of a common citizenship either.
 

JLM

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Oh for Gods sake Canada is a large empty country so lets theoretically fill it up
with every Tom **** and Harry we can find. Canada is a nation unto itself and
should remain so. If the Turks and Caicos want to join Canada as part of our
nation I would entertain that idea but not some common citizenship.
No I don't want Mexico part of a common citizenship either.

Poor old D ick gets short shrift, but if his name was Prick, there'd be no problem! -:)
 

PoliticalNick

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Do you honestly believe Canadian social security would remain unchanged if there was an influx of applicants. It woudl not take long for it to be streamlined to the point where it would be better to be poor in cheap Mexico than expensive Canada.

Some Canadian poor might even move their for affordability.

You are obviously smoking crack. What do you think would happen when we have an extra 3 million people drawing on what is an already underfunded social system when they haven't paid anything into it? I cannot fathom how you believe this would be good for Canada in any way.

Do you really believe our poor would move to Mexico where there is no social assistance? Do you think 3 million Canadians would move to Mexico totake jobs at $4/hr instead of the $25/hr they make here.

I'm not sure what drugs you are taking but they are seriously making you delusional and you should consider quitting.
 

darkbeaver

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Oh for Gods sake Canada is a large empty country so lets theoretically fill it up
with every Tom **** and Harry we can find. Canada is a nation unto itself and
should remain so. If the Turks and Caicos want to join Canada as part of our
nation I would entertain that idea but not some common citizenship.
No I don't want Mexico part of a common citizenship either.

No Canada is not an empty Country, yes it does have room for many more people. The reasons for this question being asked is the certainty of Fortress North America. Now if you want to understand empty, as in completely, you should study the American (US) economic desert, the driest on the planet. Dunes of IOUs as far as the eye can see.
 

PoliticalNick

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Canada has more land than it really needs. The compassionate thing to do would be to share it with the third world.

Sure...they can have everything north of the diamond mines and everything east of Saskatchewan. Oh, wait, that is part of the third world. :lol:
 

BaalsTears

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Sure...they can have everything north of the diamond mines and everything east of Saskatchewan. Oh, wait, that is part of the third world. :lol:

Most Canadians live within two hundred miles of the US border. There is plenty of room for others. Canadians should share. Americans share the USA with Latin Americans. Canada should do the same. Be compassionate. Open your hearts.
 

PoliticalNick

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Most Canadians live within two hundred miles of the US border. There is plenty of room for others. Canadians should share. Americans share the USA with Latin Americans. Canada should do the same. Be compassionate. Open your hearts.

My heart is open. What I won't open is my country and my wallet.
 

PoliticalNick

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That's selfish. There are tens of millions of people in the third world who deserve Canadian compassion.

There are millions of people in Canada who deserve compassion and assistance. I'll look after them. Our govt already send million upon millions of tax dollars to the third world, they don't need to come here and use our social services for free too.
 

SLM

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You're is a contraction of you are. I certainly wasn't trying to call anyone a sentence.

Hey don't knock it 'til you try it.;)

Personally, if I was teasing someone on the 'their/there' thing, I'd take it that one step further. But maybe that's just me. :)