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Come on Canada… This is not OK

CANADA 🇨🇦 !!!!!!!!!!!
listen up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is very interesting
If I give you $1 billion and you stand on a street corner handing out $1 per second, twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, you would still not have handed out $1 billion after 31 years!
Now read on. This is true and rather hard to really understand.
The next time you hear a politician use the word 'billion' in a casual manner, think about whether you want the 'politicians' spending YOUR tax money.
A billion is a difficult number to comprehend, but one advertising agency did a good job of putting that figure into some perspective in one of its releases.
1. A billion seconds ago, it was 1959.
2. A billion minutes ago, Jesus was alive.
3. A billion hours ago, our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.
4. A billion days ago, no-one walked on the earth on two feet.
5. A billion Dollars ago was only 13 hours and 12 minutes, at the rate our present government is spending it.
We are charged:
· Stamp Duty
· Tobacco Tax
· Corporate Income Tax
· Income Tax
· Council Tax
· Unemployment Tax
· Fishing License Tax
· Petrol/Diesel Tax
· Inheritance Tax (tax on top of tax)
· Alcohol Tax
· G.S.T.
· Property Tax
· Purchase Property Tax
· Tax on Title Searches
· Tax on Building Inspections
· Tax on supplements
· Taxes on various food items
· Taxes on Dining out
· Tax on all utilities – Phone, hydro, water, waste disposal
· Service charge taxes
· Social Security Tax
· Vehicle License / Registration Tax
· Vehicle Sales Tax
· Workers Compensation Tax
· And now Carbon Tax
AND I’m sure you can think of more......
STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 60 years ago, and our nation was one of the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt.
We had the largest middle class in the world. A criminal’s life was uncomfortable. IWhat on earth happened?
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And then:
A guy named Milton Friedman wrote a six page essay titled "The Social Responsibility Of Business Is to Increase Its Profits", which, through leaders like Ronald Reagan and Margret Thatcher ushered in the age of neo-liberal economics that basically said the bottom line is everything, and that any degree of social responsibility among employers is an obstacle to profitability and as such, socialism. So here we are today, middle class earnings have been stagnant for decades, the environment has been thrown under the bus in favour of profits, people are at each other's throats, and the share of wealth and power in the hands of a very few is greater than it ever was before.

The fantasy that government is to blame for all of this isn't entirely accurate, governments biggest fault is their reluctance to go toe to toe with the corporate elite.
 
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Good reasons/not-so-good reasons.

The world is vastly more complex, interconnected, and comfortable than it was in 1959. That ain't cheap.

Organizations, of which the government is one, will always work to ensure their survival and increase their power. And money is power.
 
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Nick Danger

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Organizations, of which the government is one, will always work to ensure their survival and increase their power. And money is power.
Yes, money is power, and the influence the corporate sector hold over government is a perfect example of that power. I watched a documentary on YouTube recently called "Inside Job", if you dig around a bit you can watch it for free. It was a detailed expose of the shenanigans going on in government that allowed the financial sector to put the world in a postition of vulnerability that gave rise to the 2008 financial crisis, where millions of people worldwide lost their jobs, their homes and their savings through corporate greed, and in the end the perps got bonus cheques.
 
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Probably the most amazing empire humanity has ever constructed is FIFA. Trillions pass through its hands (with the appropriate nick, of course), it rules with an iron fist the dictators of yesteryear (or now) can only dream of, and people and countries work incredibly hard to come under that iron fist. .
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Yes, money is power, and the influence the corporate sector hold over government is a perfect example of that power. I watched a documentary on YouTube recently called "Inside Job", if you dig around a bit you can watch it for free. It was a detailed expose of the shenanigans going on in government that allowed the financial sector to put the world in a postition of vulnerability that gave rise to the 2008 financial crisis, where millions of people worldwide lost their jobs, their homes and their savings through corporate greed, and in the end the perps got bonus cheques.
Happens every 20 years or so. It would appear to be a feature, not a bug.
 

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And then:
A guy named Milton Friedman wrote a six page essay titled "The Social Responsibility Of Business Is to Increase Its Profits", which, through leaders like Ronald Reagan and Margret Thatcher ushered in the age of neo-liberal economics that basically said the bottom line is everything, and that any degree of social responsibility among employers is an obstacle to profitability and as such, socialism. So here we are today, middle class earnings have been stagnant for decades, the environment has been thrown under the bus in favour of profits, people are at each other's throats, and the share of wealth and power in the hands of a very few is greater than it ever was before.

The fantasy that government is to blame for all of this isn't entirely accurate, governments biggest fault is their reluctance to go toe to toe with the corporate elite.
Now look at what happened to government payrolls. They have increased exponentially in both size and dollars. While the rest of us have been losing ground in real dollars. Dr. Tam just got a raise equivalent to 2 years worth of CPP that the rest of us are expected to live on. Ain't socialism grand?
 

taxslave

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Yes, money is power, and the influence the corporate sector hold over government is a perfect example of that power. I watched a documentary on YouTube recently called "Inside Job", if you dig around a bit you can watch it for free. It was a detailed expose of the shenanigans going on in government that allowed the financial sector to put the world in a postition of vulnerability that gave rise to the 2008 financial crisis, where millions of people worldwide lost their jobs, their homes and their savings through corporate greed, and in the end the perps got bonus cheques.
You gotta quit watching CBC . If what you claim was even remotely true, there would be at least 4 pipelines to the west coast. We would still be permitted to log old growth in BC.
 

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Come on Canada… This is not OK

CANADA 🇨🇦 !!!!!!!!!!!
listen up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is very interesting
If I give you $1 billion and you stand on a street corner handing out $1 per second, twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, you would still not have handed out $1 billion after 31 years!
Now read on. This is true and rather hard to really understand.
The next time you hear a politician use the word 'billion' in a casual manner, think about whether you want the 'politicians' spending YOUR tax money.
A billion is a difficult number to comprehend, but one advertising agency did a good job of putting that figure into some perspective in one of its releases.
1. A billion seconds ago, it was 1959.
2. A billion minutes ago, Jesus was alive.
3. A billion hours ago, our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.
4. A billion days ago, no-one walked on the earth on two feet.
5. A billion Dollars ago was only 13 hours and 12 minutes, at the rate our present government is spending it.
We are charged:
· Stamp Duty
· Tobacco Tax
· Corporate Income Tax
· Income Tax
· Council Tax
· Unemployment Tax
· Fishing License Tax
· Petrol/Diesel Tax
· Inheritance Tax (tax on top of tax)
· Alcohol Tax
· G.S.T.
· Property Tax
· Purchase Property Tax
· Tax on Title Searches
· Tax on Building Inspections
· Tax on supplements
· Taxes on various food items
· Taxes on Dining out
· Tax on all utilities – Phone, hydro, water, waste disposal
· Service charge taxes
· Social Security Tax
· Vehicle License / Registration Tax
· Vehicle Sales Tax
· Workers Compensation Tax
· And now Carbon Tax
AND I’m sure you can think of more......
STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 60 years ago, and our nation was one of the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt.
We had the largest middle class in the world. A criminal’s life was uncomfortable. IWhat on earth happened?
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The Federal Individual surtax. In effect, a tax they charge you for paying your taxes.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Obviously, the way to think about it is the total taxes you pay.

All the different little taxes here and there are an example of the law "Complexity trumps transparency."
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Now look at what happened to government payrolls. They have increased exponentially in both size and dollars. While the rest of us have been losing ground in real dollars. Dr. Tam just got a raise equivalent to 2 years worth of CPP that the rest of us are expected to live on. Ain't socialism grand?
Cursing the growth of government does no good. This isn't 1880. You can't just dump your waste in the river anymore.

One technique that seems to help keep government organizations on task and minimize empire-building is the Peace Corps's policy that you can work there for five years total, and then you're gone for good. Not a universal solution by any means, corporate memory is useful in many cases, but we should apply it more often, sez me.
 
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Cursing the growth of government does no good. This isn't 1880. You can't just dump your waste in the river anymore.

One technique that seems to help keep government organizations on task and minimize empire-building is the Peace Corps's policy that you can work there for five years total, and then you're gone for good. Not a universal solution by any means, corporate memory is useful in many cases, but we should apply it more often, sez me.
Quebec still dumps sewage into the river.
 

Nick Danger

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One technique that seems to help keep government organizations on task and minimize empire-building is the Peace Corps's policy that you can work there for five years total, and then you're gone for good. Not a universal solution by any means, corporate memory is useful in many cases, but we should apply it more often, sez me.
Exactly. I spent a few years in volunteer service work in a well known organization where rotation of elected representatives was encouraged. You did a term as an assistant, sort of your apprenticeship stage, a term as actual representative, and then an advisory term as "past representive", and then you took a rest. Kept people from getting too comfy in leadership positions, from "owning" the office. Refusing to step aside was not prohibited, sometimes no one else wanted the job, but usually becoming a "retread" was frowned upon.
 

taxslave

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OK, I stand corrected. It's perfectly OK to dump your sewage in the river. Nothing bad'll happen.
Up until 2 years ago Victoria dumped all their sewage into the ocean. Every logging camp on the coast was forced to have better sewage treatment than the Capital for the last two decades.
 

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Come on Canada… This is not OK

CANADA 🇨🇦 !!!!!!!!!!!
listen up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is very interesting
If I give you $1 billion and you stand on a street corner handing out $1 per second, twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, you would still not have handed out $1 billion after 31 years!
Now read on. This is true and rather hard to really understand.
The next time you hear a politician use the word 'billion' in a casual manner, think about whether you want the 'politicians' spending YOUR tax money.
A billion is a difficult number to comprehend, but one advertising agency did a good job of putting that figure into some perspective in one of its releases.
1. A billion seconds ago, it was 1959.
2. A billion minutes ago, Jesus was alive.
3. A billion hours ago, our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.
4. A billion days ago, no-one walked on the earth on two feet.
5. A billion Dollars ago was only 13 hours and 12 minutes, at the rate our present government is spending it.
We are charged:
· Stamp Duty
· Tobacco Tax
· Corporate Income Tax
· Income Tax
· Council Tax
· Unemployment Tax
· Fishing License Tax
· Petrol/Diesel Tax
· Inheritance Tax (tax on top of tax)
· Alcohol Tax
· G.S.T.
· Property Tax
· Purchase Property Tax
· Tax on Title Searches
· Tax on Building Inspections
· Tax on supplements
· Taxes on various food items
· Taxes on Dining out
· Tax on all utilities – Phone, hydro, water, waste disposal
· Service charge taxes
· Social Security Tax
· Vehicle License / Registration Tax
· Vehicle Sales Tax
· Workers Compensation Tax
· And now Carbon Tax
AND I’m sure you can think of more......
STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 60 years ago, and our nation was one of the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt.
We had the largest middle class in the world. A criminal’s life was uncomfortable. IWhat on earth happened?
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The government/politicians have and has always been the real problem, and never the real solution. Politicians have become nothing more than a bunch of arse holes. They could careless about the electorate who voted them in and pay their salaries. The only thing that these thieves and liars do that is great for us taxpayer's is to try and create more taxes, try and create more government, and work hard to try and take all of our rights and freedoms away from us. I have come to the conclusion that our politicians, and the lying and fake MSM are the real enemy, and are not our friends. They only always show their disgust and their contempt and hatred for we the peasants of Canada. 90% of them needs to be FIRED. Works for me. (y)