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It amuses me to no end how may men on this forum have become hysterical in Kavanaugh's defense...while the female likes of Mowich remain calm, sober and reasoned.
 

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Maybe not so sober, Fords' testimony that I caught on cnn she claimed unwelcome forceful sexual contact(s) and said she even feared for her life, obviously mowichs' defintion of rape differs from mine.
 

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Maybe not so sober, Fords' testimony that I caught on cnn she claimed unwelcome forceful sexual contact(s) and said she even feared for her life, obviously mowichs' defintion of rape differs from mine.
Apparently the law's definition differs from yours, too. The law requires penetration of the vagina by the penis for rape (in those jurisdictions, including Maryland, that still use the term).
 

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Ford said she was NOT raped...that her tight swimwear underneath her clothes prevented Kavanaugh from getting to third base.
 

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Maybe not so sober, Fords' testimony that I caught on cnn she claimed unwelcome forceful sexual contact(s) and said she even feared for her life, obviously mowichs' defintion of rape differs from mine.


rape - unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.



Dr Ford wasn't raped.
 

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It amuses me to no end how may men on this forum have become hysterical in Kavanaugh's defense...while the female likes of Mowich remain calm, sober and reasoned.
No use getting excited until all the undisputable facts are laid out. Like I often say, if you don't know ALL the facts you don't really know anything!
 

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Well, Clarence Thomas certainly is, and look what a smashing success he's been!
Yes, he most certainly is (a liar), Tec. Even the vindication of Anita Hill couldn't budge him from his comfy seat. I wonder if there was even a ripple of discomfort among them(the Supremes) when that news hit the air waves. If nothing else it should sow caution in the minds of those calling for his immediate appointment to the bench after which, should he prove to be unworthy, he can be removed. Thomas put the lie to that claim.
 

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No use getting excited until all the undisputable facts are laid out. Like I often say, if you don't know ALL the facts you don't really know anything!


The only people who will ever know all the facts are those who were actually there at the time and have total recall of all said events. So far the 'total recall' part is sketchy at best and I doubt further investigation of a 3 decades old incident is going to further clarify anything.
 

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The only people who will ever know all the facts are those who were actually there at the time and have total recall of all said events. So far the 'total recall' part is sketchy at best and I doubt further investigation of a 3 decades old incident is going to further clarify anything.
Delay is all the Dems want.
 

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rape - unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.
Dr Ford wasn't raped.

What do you base this 'fact' on??..her word?? Cancel the fbi probe her word is gospel. Failing to press sexual assault charges liberating a sexual preditor[her impliction] to stalk innocents just to save face makes her capable of with holding almost anything including vaginal distress.
Dems created a winner.
 

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The only people who will ever know all the facts are those who were actually there at the time and have total recall of all said events. So far the 'total recall' part is sketchy at best and I doubt further investigation of a 3 decades old incident is going to further clarify anything.


Well that's just it, he probably didn't deserve the job right from the get go, but now that he's been put through all this sh*t, they probably owe him a lot so I'm guessing they might just end up giving him the job out of sympathy. Probably no one else will want it anyway! :) (If they can even find anyone more virtuous than Kavanaugh among the upper echelon)
 

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What do you base this 'fact' on??..her word?? Cancel the fbi probe her word is gospel. Failing to press sexual assault charges liberating a sexual preditor[her impliction] to stalk innocents just to save face makes her capable of with holding almost anything including vaginal distress.
Dems created a winner.
How about on the "fact" that not even the victim claims she was vaginally penetrated?

You really don't know how this works, do you?

But it's nice to see you've surrendered, backing off from "rape" to "sexual assault."
 

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The only people who will ever know all the facts are those who were actually there at the time and have total recall of all said events. So far the 'total recall' part is sketchy at best and I doubt further investigation of a 3 decades old incident is going to further clarify anything.
And not even them. Experts in various fields, including lawyers, know from bitter experience (which we call "verified data") that certainty and accuracy in perception and memory have nothing to do with each other.
 

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Yes that's right Hoid. Go hide from the truth. Run to your safe space and block me again.
You still haven't answered whether not PM Groper should still be PM after admitting his guilt.

Are you of the position that any unproven criminal allegations against someone on the right-wing are absolute truth but actual facts against a lefty don't matter?
I believe Mr Trudeau denied any knowledge of the event and in a tear-filled rage blamed his political enemies.
 

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Baloney.


The Democrats carefully and intentionally set him up in a smear campaign to destroy his reputation and his life, in a transparent attempt to prevent Republicans from elevating a man that would "protect and defend the constitution of the United States" to the SCOTUS.


They want to destroy the constitution.


That simple.


As far as I'm concerned, Kavanaugh was way too easy on them.
Anyone who think Ms Ford is some sort of Democratic plot is an idiot.
 

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"Vaginal distress??"
The only holes Mowich is talking about are the holes in your argument.

Yes, vaginal distress, how would term non consensual forced entry?

tbone sez:
How about on the "fact" that not even the victim claims she was vaginally penetrated?
This is the crux of the matter, she concealed her alleged sexual encounter for how long thus concealing anything else is no stretch at all.
Enduring sexual contact(s) fearing for your life as she claims spells more than a casual encounter. I think a legal eagle worth his salt could make a case for rape if indeed her account is factual, at worst life threatened sexual assault. If she had come forward years ago he and she would not be in this he said she said news maker.
 

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I think that the Judge is going to withdraw.
The Republican Party knows full well that all the stories will not disappear simply because the judge is approved for the promotion to the supreme court, and that more particulars will be put forth during the next few months, and it would be very embarrassing to the establishment.
It would be too late to apologize for such an ugly promotion after the fact, and that is why the judge will be asked to withdraw.
Yep, and just like Roy Moore, after the Democrats have done their damage watch how quickly the charges and the story dries up and blows away.

What's interesting is all the ALT-left Canadians being so goddam sure Kavanaugh is guilty based purely on unfounded allegations and yet think Trudeau, the admitted sexual assaulter, still has the moral mandate to be PM. So, unfounded allegations means a judge can't sit on the SC and rule on cases and interpret the law, but a known and admitted sexual assaulter in a position to MAKE laws is fine, as long as it's Trudeau.
Gotta love the gross hypocrisy of the ALT-left.
 

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I believe Mr Trudeau denied any knowledge of the event and in a tear-filled rage blamed his political enemies.
You believe wrong. He apologized for it and then tried to justify it by making the excuse that "sometimes men and women perceive interactions with each other differently".

Funny how the woman who made the claim, and Trudeau's resulting admission, aren't enough for you to believe her. So much for believing all women, eh?