Chris Alexander..............is he leadership material?

Curious Cdn

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Any opinions? (I'm not impressed)

The Conservatives need to the head for the middle or they will be unelectable and marginal. Do you really want perpetual Liberal governments with the NDP in opposition? That is what you are going to get if you think that Canadians are going to vote for Republican wannabees They may believe themselves to be just ducky but most of the rest of Canada won't vote for them.
 

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The Conservatives need to the head for the middle or they will be unelectable and marginal. Do you really want perpetual Liberal governments with the NDP in opposition? That is what you are going to get if you think that Canadians are going to vote for Republican wannabees They may believe themselves to be just ducky but most of the rest of Canada won't vote for them.


I kind of thought we had good gov't. with Harper, but I guess my good wisdom was over shadowed on election day. Liberals and N.D.P. want to be all things to all people and that just will not work. There's winners in this world and there's losers and you have to let them figure out which they want to be.
 

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Non of the present candidates are impressive, they might be able to fill the job as opposition, but non are capable of winning leadership.

Not sure about Kevin O Leary, he might have a chance, but even with him it would be a bit of a long night shot.
 

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I kind of thought we had good gov't. with Harper, but I guess my good wisdom was over shadowed on election day. Liberals and N.D.P. want to be all things to all people and that just will not work. There's winners in this world and there's losers and you have to let them figure out which they want to be.

Appealing to the majority means that you are representing most of us and that democracy is working.

Non of the present candidates are impressive, they might be able to fill the job as opposition, but non are capable of winning leadership.

Not sure about Kevin O Leary, he might have a chance, but even with him it would be a bit of a long night shot.

I doubt that Canadians are ready for our own creepy, Trumpy type. Most of us are neither that angry nor that poorly educated.
 

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Appealing to the majority means that you are representing most of us and that democracy is working.



I doubt that Canadians are ready for our own creepy, Trumpy type. Most of us are neither that angry nor that poorly educated.

The majority of Canadians voters aren't so smart.....
They fell for a show-boater last year...
 

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Its funny how some folks believe voters are stupid when they vote for a party those folks don't like but voters are smart when they vote for the party those folks like. I think those folks are the stupid ones
 

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The majority of Canadians voters aren't so smart.....
They fell for a show-boater last year...


The main problem is that most of the voters today aren't cognizant of what happened in 1968, actually most of THEM probably weren't even born. The handwriting was on the wall the day he threw "his hat in the ring". You know that feeling you have when the roller coaster at the fair reaches the first summit on the track? That was the feeling I had.........................."here we f**king go" :) :)
 

Curious Cdn

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Well judging from your post you are obviously an example of the poorly educated.

You like creepy, loudmouth con-men, do you rube? Think they'll make Amerca "great again", do you?

Sucker.

The main problem is that most of the voters today aren't cognizant of what happened in 1968, actually most of THEM probably weren't even born. The handwriting was on the wall the day he threw "his hat in the ring". You know that feeling you have when the roller coaster at the fair reaches the first summit on the track? That was the feeling I had.........................."here we f**king go" :) :)

Je me souviens ... I remember. The very name "Trudeau" still makes me wince.
 

Durry

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You like creepy, loudmouth con-men, do you rube? Think they'll make Amerca "great again", do you?
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You obviously have not been watching the stock market performance since Trump got elected.

Oh I forgot, your one of those dumbos that doesn't even know what a stock market is,,,fool!!
 

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Well considering that Trudeau made it, I guess this guy feels he has a chance, hel#l many now have a chance, even 19yr old feel they can try!!
 

Curious Cdn

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You obviously have not been watching the stock market performance since Trump got elected.

Oh I forgot, your one of those dumbos that doesn't even know what a stock market is,,,fool!!

Hmmmm. I wonder why uncertainty and instability triggers stock trading?
 

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I kind of thought we had good gov't. with Harper, but I guess my good wisdom was over shadowed on election day. Liberals and N.D.P. want to be all things to all people and that just will not work. There's winners in this world and there's losers and you have to let them figure out which they want to be.


Harper had good points about him. His BIG mistake was engaging in identity politics! Barbaric cultural practices hotline for example. Now we have Leitch talking about a Leitchean... er... I mean Canadian values test. It's that kind of silliness that turn even people like me way off of the conservatives. I'm very pro free trade, pro open borders, pro free markets, but I'm not into race-baiting one bit.
 

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Another problem with Harper was his extreme confrontationalism. I'll give credit where credit is due. Harper had publicly thanks Layton for helping with the official apology to the survivors of the Indian residential school for example. But that was one of his few true acts of non-partisanship. His choice of words usually grated, were sometimes insulting, and he seemed like a bully totally unable to compromise. when you act like that, it's like a pressure cooker. Eventually it all bursts under pressure and then people vote for politicians like Trudeau.


Ironically, though I agree more with some of Harper's views than Trudeau's, Trudeau does have this going for him: he at least tries to reach out to other parties. Whereas Harper saw a majority as his key to power, Trudeau gives his MPs and even cabinet ministers freedom to disagree with him on some points. In that way, Trudeau and Manning probably share more in common than Harper and Manning. Manning too was not nearly as partisan. Radical. Yes. Right. Yes. But Preston Manning was no bully. He always spoke softly, tried to find consensus. Heck, even Preston Manning supports a carbon tax. He's an intellectual conservative. Harper and his ilk were barbarian knuckle draggers.
 

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Harper had good points about him. His BIG mistake was engaging in identity politics! Barbaric cultural practices hotline for example. Now we have Leitch talking about a Leitchean... er... I mean Canadian values test. It's that kind of silliness that turn even people like me way off of the conservatives. I'm very pro free trade, pro open borders, pro free markets, but I'm not into race-baiting one bit.


"Open borders".....................Really? What would be the benefits?

Another problem with Harper was his extreme confrontationalism. I'll give credit where credit is due. Harper had publicly thanks Layton for helping with the official apology to the survivors of the Indian residential school for example. But that was one of his few true acts of non-partisanship. His choice of words usually grated, were sometimes insulting, and he seemed like a bully totally unable to compromise. when you act like that, it's like a pressure cooker. Eventually it all bursts under pressure and then people vote for politicians like Trudeau.


Ironically, though I agree more with some of Harper's views than Trudeau's, Trudeau does have this going for him: he at least tries to reach out to other parties. Whereas Harper saw a majority as his key to power, Trudeau gives his MPs and even cabinet ministers freedom to disagree with him on some points. In that way, Trudeau and Manning probably share more in common than Harper and Manning. Manning too was not nearly as partisan. Radical. Yes. Right. Yes. But Preston Manning was no bully. He always spoke softly, tried to find consensus. Heck, even Preston Manning supports a carbon tax. He's an intellectual conservative. Harper and his ilk were barbarian knuckle draggers.


Well written and thought out!
 

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Yeah, I'm not impressed either with him or a couple of other contenders for the leadership, ESPECIALLY after their comments about the Alberta Rally.


This is disheartening because it will likely mean another 4 years of Liberals which is likely going to be disastrous for the country. There isn't, to my mind, anyone who seems to want to be a leader. Instead, we have a bunch of wimps who refuse to stand up for their principles and are too afraid to "offend" and speak out against those who "...already hate them". I agree whole heartedly with that sentiment. All we have are a bunch of gutless wannabe leaders when what we really need are real Leaders!


JMHO