China: Find a Bastard, Make Him Ours!!!!

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Holy Carnegie, Batman ... the WalMart of Mining....

The next big one will be mining areas around undersea vents - 30 mr deep - 20 mr wide or more - 100's of mr long - These numbers are not highly accurate - but it is coming
 

petros

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The next big one will be mining areas around undersea vents - 30 mr deep - 20 mr wide or more - 100's of mr long - These numbers are not highly accurate - but it is coming
My specialty! Although the ones I've dealt with are 1.65 Billion years old.

The JPost is a definite no no.
Damn, I've always considered them to be pretty damn open and honest.

AHEM!!!!
It's all about resources Colpy. All about resources.

Harper's "bum boys".

http://www.suncor.com/en/about/3986.aspx

http://www.suncor.com/en/newsroom/2418.aspx?id=1150050
 

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ya, that's not even the tip of the iceberg either.

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Yes China is a rouge country but if we are to apply the same rules to others America might well
qualify as well. It is true, China was a friend to Libya, and American had relations with his little
killing machine as well. Documents uncovered this weekend clearly demonstrate America's CIA
left people there to be dealt with by the secret police. There was even Merry Christmas notes
sent back and forth.
China is friends with Mugabe, yes and in the past so was Canada and other countries as well,
Does that make us a rogue state?

North Korea, there is a group of upstanding people, and if China was not friendly with them they
would have done something really stupid by now. China keeps that animal in its cage.
China is a nation on the move to a new empire status, and it is really no different than the old days
of the British, French and others who procured slaves for the markets in the Colonies including
America.

Should we say oh well this is alright because they are rising in world power? Absolutely Not.
We need to see it for what it is and in so doing we can confront our own shortcomings and be
determined to not condone such action. In so doing we must then insist our companies behave
responsibly and bring their factories home to stop supporting slave labour and child labour in the
third world. We won't do that though will we? It is fine to criticise and wag our finger at someone
else, but when we look closer, we see our own part in this disgusting little plan all in the name of
world trade, progress, profit and the New World Order. Incidentally, the term New World Order,
was coined by Mr Hitler, that in itself is pause for though eh?
When America, was meddling in the affairs of South America some were critical of Juan Peron in
Argentina. Harry Truman said "Yes Peron is a son of a bitch, but the difference is he is our
son of a bitch"

There in lies the problem, we are quick to blame others and be critical of others while we seldom
act to corral our own short comings on the world stage. I agree China is a serious problem and we
will end up in conflict with that country before this is over, but we must ensure we do all we can to
live up to the principles we cherish. That is getting more difficult because in the West we have
fewer and fewer principles. Countries like China are rouge states and basically evil, but them they
are a lending tree to finance our waste and China is a profit machine, for investment, after all Slave
Labour provides bigger dividends for our pension funds, and that is what really matters right?
We can get it cheaper and live better shopping for Chinese made goods, while complaining we are
not getting paid enough. Integrity is oh so complicated these days
 

petros

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China is friends with Mugabe, yes and in the past so was Canada and other countries as well,
Does that make us a rogue state?
Well we've been sleeping with the enemy in Libya and Syria. Everytime a nation wants to nationalize it's resources we're there guns a blazing, BS sanctions to provide media fluff, or free trade agreements with Commies. We're not angels by any means.
 

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Looks like China has learned from the best. It used to be the USA that adopted every corrupt fifth world nation.

And no, Colpy there will be no war with China. The Chinese are not about to attack the people who buy their products and the country completely lacks global reach.
 

damngrumpy

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They are really fascists posing as communist. They gave up the peoples government idea a long time
ago, in favour of greed and capitalism. It is not good when we demand people change their ways.
Remember Reagan demanded the Russians tear down the Berlin wall and they did? Cold war ends
and America's economic problems begin. America bribes China with investment opportunities and
they take capitalism to a whole new height leaving America damn near a have not state in the world.
China is a dictatorship but communist in name only,
 

gerryh

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They are really fascists posing as communist. They gave up the peoples government idea a long time
ago, in favour of greed and capitalism. It is not good when we demand people change their ways.
Remember Reagan demanded the Russians tear down the Berlin wall and they did? Cold war ends
and America's economic problems begin. America bribes China with investment opportunities and
they take capitalism to a whole new height leaving America damn near a have not state in the world.
China is a dictatorship but communist in name only,


I didn't say what they were, one way or another. I was just asking for a clarification of your use of red with China.
 

petros

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Remember Reagan demanded the Russians tear down the Berlin wall and they
did?
Nope because I remember trade unionists at the Lenin Shipyards in Gdansk and Ukrainian coal miners started a wave of revolt and strikes.

Reagan had **** all to do with it.
 

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Nope because I remember trade unionists at the Lenin Shipyards in Gdansk and Ukrainian coal miners started a wave of revolt and strikes.

Reagan had **** all to do with it.

Reagan simply used it as a photo op, things were moving as surely as the tide coming in, and for some reason lots of people have decided to believe that Reagan had something to do with it. That's PR at work. I'm still amazed at how successful it was.
 

petros

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Reagan simply used it as a photo op, things were moving as surely as the tide coming in, and for some reason lots of people have decided to believe that Reagan had something to do with it. That's PR at work. I'm still amazed at how successful it was.
It's was on TV. It has to be true. If you want to see the REAL Reagan at his finest look into the demise of Yugoslavia.....