Cheers or jeers?? Wills and Kate arrive in Canada

Cheers or jeers for William and Kate's Canadian visit?

  • Cheers!

    Votes: 17 60.7%
  • Jeers!

    Votes: 2 7.1%
  • Don't care either way

    Votes: 9 32.1%

  • Total voters
    28
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gerryh

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I've read this from you many times before but have never been given any specifics. I know Canadian history and I can't think of any instances when the monarchy protected us from take over by the United States. Could you tell me when this happened?

Which monarch are you referring to specifically? George III or IV? William IV, Victoria? Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII, George VI, Elizabeth II?

What did they do to stop the United States from taking us over?


Considering its historical significance to Canada it is surprising that so few stamps have been issued to commemorate the War of 1812. A by-product of the Napoleonic Wars that preoccupied most of Europe at the beginning of the 19th century, the War of 1812, declared by the United States on Great Britain under President James Madison on 18 June 1812, is a source of pride to Canadians as many inhabitants, principally of Upper Canada, fought alongside the Regular British Army and Indian allies to thwart American plans to capture what were then the British colonies on their northern flank.

Canada and The War of 1812

King George III
 

JLM

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I've read this from you many times before but have never been given any specifics. I know Canadian history and I can't think of any instances when the monarchy protected us from take over by the United States. Could you tell me when this happened?

Which monarch are you referring to specifically? George III or IV? William IV, Victoria? Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII, George VI, Elizabeth II?

What did they do to stop the United States from taking us over?

You've lost me when it comes to the U.S. taking us over. My memory might be refreshed if you can give me the date.
 

Corduroy

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You weren't specific enough. You cited a war between Great Britain and the US during the reign of George III. That doesn't explain how George III, insane and secluded to the palace at the time, specifically prevented a US take over of Canada.
 

gerryh

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From what I could gather from your post you gave the date the Americans failed to us over.


That's right, attempted and failed due to the combined efforts of English regular forces, Indian, and local volunteers.

You weren't specific enough. You cited a war between Great Britain and the US during the reign of George III. That doesn't explain how George III, insane and secluded to the palace at the time, specifically prevented a US take over of Canada.

The British troops in Canada were ultimately under the Kings command, that's the way the armed forces work in the Commonwealth. Maybe you should take a refresher history course so you don't make basic errors like this.
 

JLM

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The British troops in Canada were ultimately under the Kings command, that's the way the armed forces work in the Commonwealth. Maybe you should take a refresher history course so you don't make basic errors like this.

Likely more on paper, Gerry, than in actual practice- I doubt if Bernie Montgomery was checking with George IV every 15 minutes before having the troops pull the trigger. (But then you did say "ultimately") :smile:
 

talloola

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That's right, attempted and failed due to the combined efforts of English regular forces, Indian, and local volunteers.


The British troops in Canada were ultimately under the Kings command, that's the way the armed forces work in the Commonwealth. Maybe you should take a refresher history course so you don't make basic errors like this.

And finally the completion of the railway, to ensure the u.s. did not come north to grab the west for
themselves. That was brilliant and pulled all of us together to be one, and kept the u.s. from saying
the west was open for the taking.
 

gerryh

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Likely more on paper, Gerry, than in actual practice- I doubt if Bernie Montgomery was checking with George IV every 15 minutes before having the troops pull the trigger. (But then you did say "ultimately") :smile:

Bernie Montgomery and George the IV?
 

Corduroy

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The British troops in Canada were ultimately under the Kings command, that's the way the armed forces work in the Commonwealth. Maybe you should take a refresher history course so you don't make basic errors like this.

That's your argument? That because the British soldiers were nominally under the control of a king too insane to direct to them, the king protected Canada from a US take over?

And finally the completion of the railway, to ensure the u.s. did not come north to grab the west for
themselves. That was brilliant and pulled all of us together to be one, and kept the u.s. from saying
the west was open for the taking.

Did Queen Victoria personally command the building of the railroad?
 

gerryh

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That's your argument? That because the British soldiers were nominally under the control of a king too insane to direct to them, the king protected Canada from a US take over?


Yes, as the King is the Commander of all his forces, through his forces he protected Canada against u.s. aggression. The war of 1812 was not the first time american forces were turned back from the British Colony's. I am sure, though, that you already know this since you are such an expert in history.

Sorry, got the R.N. transposed! :lol: (That's what Alzheimers does to you)

got the R.N. transposed? R.N.?
 

JLM

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That's your argument? That because the British soldiers were nominally under the control of a king too insane to direct to them, the king protected Canada from a US take over?



Did Queen Victoria personally command the building of the railroad?

Probably with a little help from Cornelius Van Horne!

gerryh got the R.N. transposed? R.N.?[/QUOTE said:
Thought you'd pick up on that right away................Roman Numeral.