Have you been to Venezuela? Do you know this or are you relying on your mass media propaganda machine?
Chavez... tick tick tick
- Thread starter EagleSmack
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No. That is why I don't really have an opinion on the man. I'm just curious why so many in the western establishment hate him.
ABC Report: Hugo Chavez DEAD ??
Eaglesmack you should change the title of this thread too..
"Official Hugo Chavez is dead thread" :lol:
Eaglesmack you should change the title of this thread too..
"Official Hugo Chavez is dead thread" :lol:
Propaganda is alive and well Chavez was elected by the majority of the people,
as said before the poor who had no voice came out in droves to vote for him
while the middle class and the rich with international connections vote against
him fair enough, His majority actually went down from over eighty percent to
somewhere near sixty five or seventy percent.
Chavez is a product of backlash that is true. He came to power as a result of
corrupt governments propped up by American foreign policy and big companies
and the International Monetary Fund. The sins of the past have caught up to
Western exploitation, More and more South and Central American nations are
switching away from American influence. America is on the down slide and can
no longer control unofficial colonialism economically,
Chavez has his distractions but when the west tries to shut out leaders they can't
control. It always ends in a disaster. Cuba, is another example. The worst is
Iraq where they installed Saddam and then they couldn't control him. The US
gave daily pictures of Iranian troop movements during the Iran/Iraq war and
when it ended they began to have problems.
Chavez and the rest of South America will settle their own problems. On the bright
side Chavez is no where near as bad as Pinochet in Chile was, oh right he was
propped up by America too.
as said before the poor who had no voice came out in droves to vote for him
while the middle class and the rich with international connections vote against
him fair enough, His majority actually went down from over eighty percent to
somewhere near sixty five or seventy percent.
Chavez is a product of backlash that is true. He came to power as a result of
corrupt governments propped up by American foreign policy and big companies
and the International Monetary Fund. The sins of the past have caught up to
Western exploitation, More and more South and Central American nations are
switching away from American influence. America is on the down slide and can
no longer control unofficial colonialism economically,
Chavez has his distractions but when the west tries to shut out leaders they can't
control. It always ends in a disaster. Cuba, is another example. The worst is
Iraq where they installed Saddam and then they couldn't control him. The US
gave daily pictures of Iranian troop movements during the Iran/Iraq war and
when it ended they began to have problems.
Chavez and the rest of South America will settle their own problems. On the bright
side Chavez is no where near as bad as Pinochet in Chile was, oh right he was
propped up by America too.
Like Romney said; "just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping I'll believe it."
Your 100% wrong, even Jimmy Carter questioned the legality of the election.. saying it was an unbelievable turnout..
World News - If you thought that Costa Rica’s political landscape was something of a disaster zone then think again – you could be Venezuelan. Hugo Chavez became one of many “Elected Dictators” this week when he was voted in by the Venezuelan People (actually he was not) and will stay in office now for another 6 years. Poor Venezuelans.
Who is Hugo Chavez? Why is Hugo Chavez a dictator? Let’s look at the facts:
Chavez since he came to power has jailed his political opponents on trumped up charges. This includes his most recent challenger Henrique Capriles who he accused of being the ring leader on an assault on the Cuban embassy some years ago.
Chavez has closed the anti-Chavez television stations and made all newspapers join his revolution or go bust. In other words media is all pro-Chavez inside Venezuela. He has even tried to block out parts of the Internet but he’s not work outed how to do that quite just yet.
The largest single opposition voting bloc of Venezuelans is in Miami (that’s where they all flee to when Chavez accuses them of something or they get too successful). He closed the Miami embassy so they could not vote.
Chavez installed electronic vote counters that even Jimmy Carter’s electoral team did not believe. With an alleged 81% turnout (unheard of in Venezuela – where were the jungle natives going to vote to get to this crazy turnout figure?) Chavez could win by 10% easily.
Chavez funded his campaign with state cash. The Opposition had to rely on what they had and the Internet. Outside funds were hard to get hold of because bringing foreign currency into Venezuela is hard when you have no way to cash it (unless you are Chavez that is).
Finally, state workers and the military were told they’d lose their jobs if they voted for anyone apart from Chavez.
Chavez stole the election. So if you think we’ve got it bad here with a bunch of crazies running the country, always remember things could be far worse. We could be living in Venezuela.
SOURCE: Dictator Hugo Chavez Fraudulently Gets Re-Elected in Venezuela | The Costa Rican Times
Yup, the US don't like it much when they lose control of their puppet states. That why I don't believe any of the hate propaganda coming out of it.
Source? Hugely doubtful at best.
Now, had you said American sponsored dictatorships...
Colombian conflict (1964)
2007–2009
On March 1, 2008, the Colombian armed forces launched a military operation 1.8 kilometres into Ecuador on a FARC position, killing 24, including Raúl Reyes, member of the FARC Central High Command. This led to the 2008 Andean diplomatic crisis between Colombia and Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa, supported by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez.
2007–2009
On March 1, 2008, the Colombian armed forces launched a military operation 1.8 kilometres into Ecuador on a FARC position, killing 24, including Raúl Reyes, member of the FARC Central High Command. This led to the 2008 Andean diplomatic crisis between Colombia and Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa, supported by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez.
I think you were talking about Hugo Chavez funding money to FARC in Columbia, which kills women and children. Another communist group..
Such a wonderful free country, that if you say anything bad while in Venezuela against Chavez you will be arrested or your business shut down.
I prefer to be stopped for speeding in Mexico.. my wife telling me to hand the officer a license with 50 pesos folded under.. of course I thought that would instantly get me a cozy jail cell with big bubba.. quickly found out that was the way things are done in Latin America..
Corruption, imported from Spain..
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Case in point... another dumb azz statement.
Typical morons.... make it up as you go.
Not too mention simply shutting down all opposition media and forcing the country to listen to him babble for hours. His jackboot nazi thugs swearing violence if their dying generalisimo is voted out of office.
Venezuela will never be free now.
Great confession!
You are forgiven, my son. Go and sin no more.
For your act of contrition, repeat "Obama is my president" ten times.
LOL o.k. that's funny. and witty.
Obama, America's token Nig Nog..
"I voted for Obama, see, I'm not a racist." I have heard this more than once..
"America is not racist, we have a black President" - yeah, sure. o.k., just look at Arizona, driving while being Mexican can get you tossed into jail...
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Do you not know history? The Americans kept Saddam in power for a long time
they gave him satellite images of where Iranian troops movements were almost
daily that was in the news at the time years ago.
No I don't make it up as I go along, it just gets swept away with time.
As for people shouting look at the economic record compared to the rest of the
world or Canada or America. I agree by our standards things would not be the
best however, the poor of that country outnumber the others and they voted for
Chavez. Its an irony that comes back to haunt the country as a whole. These
people were forgotten and they had no vote. Once they got it they have used it
their advantage. Perhaps not the best way but then it is their vote and they can
do what they like with it.
As for so called crimes of Chavez, well its really *** for tat if true at all. South
America has long been a place of old scores must be settled and that is due to
political instability that was fostered by outside powers for decades.
they gave him satellite images of where Iranian troops movements were almost
daily that was in the news at the time years ago.
No I don't make it up as I go along, it just gets swept away with time.
As for people shouting look at the economic record compared to the rest of the
world or Canada or America. I agree by our standards things would not be the
best however, the poor of that country outnumber the others and they voted for
Chavez. Its an irony that comes back to haunt the country as a whole. These
people were forgotten and they had no vote. Once they got it they have used it
their advantage. Perhaps not the best way but then it is their vote and they can
do what they like with it.
As for so called crimes of Chavez, well its really *** for tat if true at all. South
America has long been a place of old scores must be settled and that is due to
political instability that was fostered by outside powers for decades.
Sure you are. Now you're caught it yet another one of your typical BS tirades and you're moving the goal post.
What does the US supplying Iraq sat images during the Iran-Iraq War have to do with putting him in power?
How did the US put Saddam in power?
Well?
Carlos Salinas de Gortari Mexican President was an American puppet until he stole most of Mexico riches and devalued the dollar..
Also, Haiti, President René Garcia Préval the US gave millions to the leaders and after the earthquake people asked where did all that money go that was to help the people...
I'm not being racist, pointing out the fact that he is America puppet. lol
I'll fix it for ya... how's that.
