CBC's Anti-Harper Bias

[ottawabill]

I don't think I have ever contributed a nickel to the CBC, besides tax dollars.

I think the CBC is too bloated and needs the fat trimmed. CBC should stick to what it does best, Hockey and News in my opinion.

Just Hockey!! I really don't think they do news well either....
They continually produce shows with the same actors re-cycled over and over..and anytime they do get it right they move the show to stupid time slots until you have no idea where it is..

They activly mock the U.S....just bad manors if nothing else for a media outlet....They seem to think we are all very intested in all things Britsh. and they do it all for a billion dollars..then have advertizing... If they we truely public, they'd work with the money they have or as with PBS have annoying drives instead of wasting so much tax money on cheap one sided agenda's

 

[DurkaDurka]

Just Hockey!! I really don't think they do news well either....
They continually produce shows with the same actors re-cycled over and over..and anytime they do get it right they move the show to stupid time slots until you have no idea where it is..

They activly mock the U.S....just bad manors if nothing else for a media outlet....They seem to think we are all very intested in all things Britsh. and they do it all for a billion dollars..then have advertizing... If they we truely public, they'd work with the money they have or as with PBS have annoying drives instead of wasting so much tax money on cheap one sided agenda's

I never said I agreed with the political slant of their news. From a technical stand point, I think they do hockey and the news best. CBC Dramas/Movies ooze cheese, I see better produced shows on youtube.

 

[TenPenny]

Just Hockey!! I really don't think they do news well either....
They continually produce shows with the same actors re-cycled over and over..and anytime they do get it right they move the show to stupid time slots until you have no idea where it is..

They activly mock the U.S....just bad manors if nothing else for a media outlet....They seem to think we are all very intested in all things Britsh. and they do it all for a billion dollars..then have advertizing... If they we truely public, they'd work with the money they have or as with PBS have annoying drives instead of wasting so much tax money on cheap one sided agenda's

I can't even imagine what you're saying, because none of that bears any resemblance to the CBC.

What a bunch of ill informed hot air from a group of people who seem to know nothing. Trailer Park Boys, for chrissakes.

If this is what passes for thought, you guys need a good headsmack.

 

[GenGap]

Their was no bias in that. I knew what Harper was refering too.

Geez! Dam Extreme Conservatives think it is a hidden agenda of CBC! :idea:

This most recent CBC incident occured a couple weeks ago, but for those who may have missed the clip....

Heres the actual newscast

and the CBC apology...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apctTk7ovWs&NR

 

[CDNBear]

Their was no bias in that. I knew what Harper was refering too.

Geez! Dam Extreme Conservatives think it is a hidden agenda of CBC! :idea:

Ya it was so unbiased and non erroneus and there was such a non problem with it that the CBC rendered an apology.

No bias in that Conservative controlled newsroom.

 

[GenGap]

Yes, their was an mistake, they did not think that people would not think to see the difference. They apogolized for their mistake. Their was no bias, no hidden agenda. :roll:

Conservative viewers whined they did not want the almighty Harper chopping off their heads.

Going to have some popcorn and beer now.

Cheers!:lol:

Ya it was so unbiased and non erroneus and there was such a non problem with it that the CBC rendered an apology.

No bias in that Conservative controlled newsroom.

 

[ottawabill]

I can't even imagine what you're saying, because none of that bears any resemblance to the CBC.

What a bunch of ill informed hot air from a group of people who seem to know nothing. Trailer Park Boys, for chrissakes.

If this is what passes for thought, you guys need a good headsmack.

Well maybe if you actually watched the cbc without the rose coloured glasses you'd see the truth.

Most of their produced shows are the same over the top humour with re-cycled CBC payrolled actors.
Many of their shows have stereotyped American's (however the new reports will call the U.S. on Stereotyping Canadians) The Rick Mercer "Talking to American's" comes to mind, you could get the same stupidity from Canadian's if you want to edit out the smart ones.

The network is Toronto centric not National, even to a bias for the Leaf's. They produce local shows and only show them locally. There mandate is to bind the country but I don't seen then teaching each region about another region of the nation. Continually show British programing Britsh dramas, and 10,000 part series that only few people have the time to sit through. THEY JUST DON"T GET IT. and for thoses that thing they do get it..just look at their ratings...It's a hell of a lot of money for few people showing interest, but i guess the same as most of the public sector bang for you buck doesn't matter....good salaries matter more.

 

[TenPenny]

Well maybe if you actually watched the cbc without the rose coloured glasses you'd see the truth.

Most of their produced shows are the same over the top humour with re-cycled CBC payrolled actors.
Many of their shows have stereotyped American's (however the new reports will call the U.S. on Stereotyping Canadians) The Rick Mercer "Talking to American's" comes to mind, you could get the same stupidity from Canadian's if you want to edit out the smart ones.

Oh, look. You found one example of a half hour show in a full week schedule to support your stupid idea, although Rick Mercer is not a CBC payrolled actor.

What a pathetic attempt at presenting a simple idea. You, apparently, don't watch the CBC. Therefore, you are unqualified to comment on its programs. Why let facts get in the way of your anti-CBC bias. After all, if it's "truth" you're looking for, there's alway FOX.

 

[Tonington]

Does Land and Sea air from coast to coast to coast? That show certainly gives a glimpse of what it's like across Canada. The shows this week about the Next Great Prime Minister and Test the Nation were quite successful.

Don Newman's Politics is great. I've seen him take to task every single person on the show if they weren't willing to shoot straight, regardless of what political affiliation they have.

Harper and I don't see eye to eye on everything, but I also share some similar opinions. I enjoy CBC programming, I watched all the time when I was a kid. Not having any cable for a while there weren't many alternatives. The Nature of Things with Suzuki was a great show for thirsty young minds, no matter what people think of him now.

The National is by far the best national news broadcast. They show great documentaries on the network as well.

 

[ottawabill]

Oh, look. You found one example of a half hour show in a full week schedule to support your stupid idea, although Rick Mercer is not a CBC payrolled actor.

What a pathetic attempt at presenting a simple idea. You, apparently, don't watch the CBC. Therefore, you are unqualified to comment on its programs. Why let facts get in the way of your anti-CBC bias. After all, if it's "truth" you're looking for, there's alway FOX.

You know, I've asked earlier in this thread as well as others as to why is it if you say something against the cbc then you all of a sudden here about the fox network. What does that have anything to do with it. I don't want fox.. My comments are to a very slanted apporach to their broadcasting, exactly as Fox does to the right.

1st Fox is not publically owned and can therefore do whatever they want I don't care. If the cbc was owned privately I wouldn't care either. But they are not.
I gave one example because thats all I was willing to type at the time.

The show an American in Canada trashed American ways.

Chilly beach has Americans bulldozing their way into Canada to buy it all.

If you need further examples I have them too.

Yes Rick Mercier is NOT a cbc paid actor, I didn't say he was. I said many of thier shows are re-cycled actors used over and over, most not very good. But thats not really my problem. My problem is they think it's fine to air skits like Talking with Americans then scream and shout if the U.S. is upset after Liberal members of the house calling call all Americans a-holes...

They are public, they are to speak for all, not one sided as they do... I would have the same problem with them if they were all for the right wing too.

The most balanced newscast in this country is private ctv...and I dare anyone to tell me cbc news is balanced.

 

[Tonington]

How exactly does one quantify content, so as to say most balanced?

 

[ottawabill]

How exactly does one quantify content, so as to say most balanced?

Balanced to me is to just report the facts during a news broadcast. You can comment, but that should be clear that this time is a commentary and not the news. As a good newpaper would do. Report facts and comment on the editorial page.. I did say a good newspaper, there are many that are very slanted right or left.

Again my problem is..if the network is publicly funded, they work for the public..the public doesn't have one view..niether should they...

The amzing thing I find on these formums is that the left sound more like G.W. Bush then anyone else. If I say I don't like the CBC I constantly am held up as a Fox supporter...sounf\ds a lot like Bush's "If you not with us your against us" attitude...I hate fox, I dislike CBC.

If you live in Ontario and watch TVO you will see a public broadcaster that does it right. No commercials, no one sidedness and ask that if the public wants it to be better the public should dirrectly help fund it.

 

[stevek]

Both the Constantly Biased Corporation (CBC)and Constantly Trivial Television (CTV) newscasts are extremely bised against the Conservatives. The CBC knows the Libranos would never reduce funding, funding that will have to incease when the CBC loses it's only money making venture, HNIC.

As for the CTV, the ties between CTV, Bell, Global and Mail and the Librano party are well known. (one of the higher-ups of Bell Globe Media I believe is also top Ontario Liberal fund raiser)

Now that AVT ha also been bought out it won't be long before CHUM silences radio hosts such as Steve Medley or Lowell Green at CFRA. Their News casts (A-Channel Ottawa) have certainly taken a slight left turn recently.

What we need is a FOX Canada news channel.

(As an aside, living in the country I can only have satellite tv. It is amusing and typical to see that Bellexpressvu doesn't offer FOX in their standard news package along with CNN. It's extra. Another Librano influence?)

 

[ottawabill]

well certainly there are "other interests" invoulved in Media operations, right or left or center, but to me the point is a public broadcaster using public funding to further one point of view.
I don't personally want either slanted side. I will full well admit I'd be more on the Fox side of the slant, but I really don't want to just hear what I like to hear, however nor do I want to only hear what makes me want to throw bricks at the T.V

 

[I think not]

What we need is a FOX Canada news channel.

No you don't.

 

[Jay]

ITN you don't know what CBC is. Nor do most of it's detractors. Canadians will always support CBC.

I know exactly what the CBC is, I listen to it almost everyday and I'm one of its largest detractors.


The reason "Canadians" will always support the CBC is because most people who listen to it are Liberal supporters and they aren't tuned into hearing the bias the CBC presents them; they agree with what’s being promoted! Just listen to it and hear the people who call in or the emails that are read. If you’re a conservative you're going to find yourself picking your jaw up off the floor every now and again.

Also, contrary to those people's beliefs not as many people are listening to the CBC as they think and therefore it only stands to reason if you're not listening to it you can't have an understanding of it's bias and the CBC doesn't register on your political radar to often. This is also not to mention Canadians in general aren't all that politically savvy.....they don't understand what’s wrong with having government sponsored propaganda. The words "free Press" don't really mean all that much to them or perhaps they don't understand that the CBC isn't really part of the "free press".

Most of them probably don't realize the PM picks the president of the CBC and the president in turn picks the board...they probably also don't realize the board is comprised of mostly Liberal supporters and a few Conservative supporters....doesn't seem "free" to me.

The CBC isn't completely biased mind you. The coverage of the last budget and the interviews they were conducting with budget detractors would almost have you thinking the CBC was actively supporting the Harper budget.....but then again it wasn't a budget "conservatives" were jumping up and down for either, many think it was more or less something we would have expected from the Liberals. Might explain it.

The CBC worships at the altar of Liberal Canada. Almost everyday they are supporting the new environmentalism and never interview global warming “deniers” (Suzuki is one of their own I suppose). They praise almost everything Islamic (since 9/11 of course), and definitely praise socialism, especially at the federal level. In Ontario when Mike Harris (Conservative) was Premier they were all over him but now that his nemesis Dalton (Liberal) is in power you would almost think we didn't even have a Premier here in Ontario....even though he is known as a blatant promise breaker by the rest of the population in Ontario.

They don't tend to interview both sides of an issue they tend to pick one and if they are "taking calls" on an issue they will have an "expert" who represents the point of view you would expect the CBC to support and then let the callers agree or disagree with the issue.

A fresh classic example of their renowned bias that comes immediately to my mind is the recent proclamation by our illustrious Liberal Premier in Ontario announcing that all bottles sold by the LCBO will now carry a $.20 extra charge on them refundable when they are returned (they used to just go in the recycling bin with all the other glass etc). The CBC reported in their newscast the restaurant association was none to pleased with this decision as it was going to cost restaurants a fortune to comply, but low and behold the next day they are interviewing some restaurant owner in London who supported the initiative and of course (as expected) he was the only one we heard from as if there was no opposition to the new Liberal program. I wondered how long they had to spend finding this guy.....I wonder if it had anything to do with the fact it smacks of their new found favorite topic, the “environment” and I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact the Ontario Liberals made the new law.

I suppose another great example would be when the Conservatives cut funding to the Status of Women department. They said they were going to give us the “real” scoop on what the cuts meant. Of course they interviewed some women lawyer who made her money off of this fund and by the time the interview was over you would have thought all of “womendom” in Canada had just come to a grinding halt and the next thing on the chopping block was going to be their right to vote. Again they only represented one side of the issue….

It’s no wonder why the left is so adamant about keeping tax dollars flowing to the CBC.

 

[ottawabill]

I know exactly what the CBC is, I listen to it almost everyday and I'm one of its largest detractors.


The reason "Canadians" will always support the CBC is because most people who listen to it are Liberal supporters and they aren't tuned into hearing the bias the CBC presents them; they agree with what’s being promoted! Just listen to it and hear the people who call in or the emails that are read. If you’re a conservative you're going to find yourself picking your jaw up off the floor every now and again.

Also, contrary to those people's beliefs not as many people are listening to the CBC as they think and therefore it only stands to reason if you're not listening to it you can't have an understanding of it's bias and the CBC doesn't register on your political radar to often. This is also not to mention Canadians in general aren't all that politically savvy.....they don't understand what’s wrong with having government sponsored propaganda. The words "free Press" don't really mean all that much to them or perhaps they don't understand that the CBC isn't really part of the "free press".

Most of them probably don't realize the PM picks the president of the CBC and the president in turn picks the board...they probably also don't realize the board is comprised of mostly Liberal supporters and a few Conservative supporters....doesn't seem "free" to me.

The CBC isn't completely biased mind you. The coverage of the last budget and the interviews they were conducting with budget detractors would almost have you thinking the CBC was actively supporting the Harper budget.....but then again it wasn't a budget "conservatives" were jumping up and down for either, many think it was more or less something we would have expected from the Liberals. Might explain it.

The CBC worships at the altar of Liberal Canada. Almost everyday they are supporting the new environmentalism and never interview global warming “deniers” (Suzuki is one of their own I suppose). They praise almost everything Islamic (since 9/11 of course), and definitely praise socialism, especially at the federal level. In Ontario when Mike Harris (Conservative) was Premier they were all over him but now that his nemesis Dalton (Liberal) is in power you would almost think we didn't even have a Premier here in Ontario....even though he is known as a blatant promise breaker by the rest of the population in Ontario.

They don't tend to interview both sides of an issue they tend to pick one and if they are "taking calls" on an issue they will have an "expert" who represents the point of view you would expect the CBC to support and then let the callers agree or disagree with the issue.

A fresh classic example of their renowned bias that comes immediately to my mind is the recent proclamation by our illustrious Liberal Premier in Ontario announcing that all bottles sold by the LCBO will now carry a $.20 extra charge on them refundable when they are returned (they used to just go in the recycling bin with all the other glass etc). The CBC reported in their newscast the restaurant association was none to pleased with this decision as it was going to cost restaurants a fortune to comply, but low and behold the next day they are interviewing some restaurant owner in London who supported the initiative and of course (as expected) he was the only one we heard from as if there was no opposition to the new Liberal program. I wondered how long they had to spend finding this guy.....I wonder if it had anything to do with the fact it smacks of their new found favorite topic, the “environment” and I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact the Ontario Liberals made the new law.

I suppose another great example would be when the Conservatives cut funding to the Status of Women department. They said they were going to give us the “real” scoop on what the cuts meant. Of course they interviewed some women lawyer who made her money off of this fund and by the time the interview was over you would have thought all of “womendom” in Canada had just come to a grinding halt and the next thing on the chopping block was going to be their right to vote. Again they only represented one side of the issue….

It’s no wonder why the left is so adamant about keeping tax dollars flowing to the CBC.

here, here!! what an excellent post!!! You hit all the points and all the notes. You've left little for me to add...outside of to comment on their "experts" panels. We continue to have a class issue in this country, as much as we "bitch" we like authority figures, beleive Government should tell us what is right (instead of the other way around) CBC news does this often. Not much of "going to the streets" for reaction but rather bring in the usually panel of authority figures to tell us what the right way is react to the news is... Many times it is an issue that should be judged by Joe public, where the panel really has no good understandign of the graas roots situation. I have no propblem with bringing in a tax expert to tell you the implications of a buget, but if tuitions are on the rise then talk to students and parents not proffessors!!