Capitalism will save this world

DaSleeper

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Angstrom

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We have power to make cooperative be banks , I bet dark, and MHz don't even bank there :lol:
 

darkbeaver

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So it won't stop with socialism or capitalism or slavery or feudalism or any other system we can think up, will it.

At last you arrive at substance. You may have heard that life is struggle. What did you think it meant? The only perfection there is, is the constant struggle between the light and the dark. Here in the material world where we are consigned to toil for one side or the other. No human system can override what the Gods have mandated. Free will reigns, the choice is yours, the light or the dark. That baby you bombed in Afghanistan, you will meet her again.
 

Angstrom

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At last you arrive at substance. You may have heard that life is struggle. What did you think it meant? The only perfection there is, is the constant struggle between the light and the dark. Here in the material world where we are consigned to toil for one side or the other. No human system can override what the Gods have mandated. Free will reigns, the choice is yours, the light or the dark. That baby you bombed in Afghanistan, you will meet her again.

I bet you don't even bank at a cooperative
 

Angstrom

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I also believe that workers controlling the means of production would be an improvement on capitalism.

I just think it would have happened already if it was meant to be. It doesn't harness ultra motivated people to work their a$$es off to accomplish them the way corporations do.

And that's why I can easily predict they will never happen on a mass scale the way it would need to happen to become a improvement over our current system.
 

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Unless I'm mistaken, I and assuming most of us capitalize from the capitalist class. They exploit us to make money, but we need them for our jobs. If anybody does not want to be exploited by this small capitalist class, the option if to not work for them, buy land, farm and live from the land and the sea. We know that socialism does not work, I'm sure we've all seen Cubans homes, versus The Castro's palatial island! or the huge huge divides in China and so call democratic Russia, with it's slave labour. Yup, it's a bitch of a world.
 

darkbeaver

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Unless I'm mistaken, I and assuming most of us capitalize from the capitalist class. They exploit us to make money, but we need them for our jobs. If anybody does not want to be exploited by this small capitalist class, the option if to not work for them, buy land, farm and live from the land and the sea. We know that socialism does not work, I'm sure we've all seen Cubans homes, versus The Castro's palatial island! or the huge huge divides in China and so call democratic Russia, with it's slave labour. Yup, it's a bitch of a world.

Recent statistics inform us that most Canadians are in debt up to thier ears, I hope you don't confuse that with capitalizing. Do you?
 

Angstrom

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Recent statistics inform us that most Canadians are in debt up to thier ears, I hope you don't confuse that with capitalizing. Do you?

I bet you don't even bank at a cooperative

Historical materialism, comrade.

The problem is in the motivation.

I don't know many people who want to work for free. And cooperations on the scale of corporation require a hard working bunch to compete.
 

HarperCons

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You're right. It's argument against arguing against you. You haven't provided an argument to argue against nor have you ever proven that you're worth the time to have an intelligent argument with.



Wow, do you even know what capitalism is?
That's the problem, a total misunderstanding of what capitalism is. It's not technology and modern medicine lol.
 

Angstrom

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Most of the socialist I know just want to party and smoke drugs. Hardly the kind of folks that even show up everyday at work.

How are you going to beat capitalist with cooperation with a bunch of goofs like Harpercon?

It's just un realistic. On paper it's a improvement over our current system. But it's never going to happen in reality.
 

HarperCons

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:lol: We haven't had a real war in 70+ years.

what the **** qualifies as a "real" war in your mind? there's been no period in history since america's inception where there wasn't war going on, that includes the present time.

Most of the socialist I know just want to party and smoke drugs. Hardly the kind of folks that even show up everyday at work.

How are you going to beat capitalist with cooperation with a bunch of goofs like Harpercon?

It's just un realistic. On paper it's a improvement over our current system. But it's never going to happen in reality.
you don't make any sense, you're incredibly dumb. you're probably legally retarded and I'm an idiot for even wasting my time with you.
 

Corduroy

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Unless I'm mistaken, I and assuming most of us capitalize from the capitalist class. They exploit us to make money, but we need them for our jobs.

We need capitalists for jobs because capitalism runs the economy and creates the conditions of our survival. But if capitalism wasn't the model of economic activity, people wouldn't need to subordinate themselves to employers to feed and shelter themselves.

Varying systems of socio-economic organization have come and gone historically. 1000 years ago no one needed the capitalist class for jobs. Most people were subordinated by another class and engaged in other activity for survival Our current condition is not a necessary one.
 

darkbeaver

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The problem is in the motivation. I don't know many people who want to work for free. And cooperations on the scale of corporation require a hard working bunch to compete.
They require a docile frightened squimish little people afraid of boggey men and shadows who will work for birdshjt till thier exhausted prematurely. I know lots of people who want you to work for free, and they're doing very well each and everyone.. Will your car battery get you through next winter, have you put away enough potatoes, will we have christmas this year or snow tires? You should read about your hands, work, and dayly bread, and Robbin Hood and William Tell and dozens of others.
I like you though, generally a nice young man, with a future.
 

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They require a docile frightened squimish little people afraid of boggey men and shadows who will work for birdshjt till thier exhausted prematurely. I know lots of people who want you to work for free, and they're doing very well each and everyone.. Will your car battery get you through next winter, have you put away enough potatoes, will we have christmas this year or snow tires? You should read about your hands, work, and dayly bread.
I like you though, generally a nice young man, with a future.
get a handle on the spelling people