Capitalism will save this world

Angstrom

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Did you just make that up or do you actually know the history of the seat belt?

Go ahead let's have it.

American car manufacturers Nash (in 1949) and Ford (in 1955) offered seat belts as options, while Swedish Saab first introduced seat belts as standard in 1958.[7] After the Saab GT 750 was introduced at the New York Motor Show in 1958 with safety belts fitted as standard, the practice became commonplace.[8]
 

Angstrom

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Do you think you've answered my question?


American car manufacturers Nash (in 1949) and Ford (in 1955) offered seat belts as options, while Swedish Saab first introduced seat belts as standard in 1958.[7] After the Saab GT 750 was introduced at the New York Motor Show in 1958 with safety belts fitted as standard, the practice became commonplace.[8]

Shall we look at airbags too?
 

Angstrom

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Still doesn't answer my question.

I didn't need too, I already knew capitalism had innovated the seat belt in a car. based on my mental equation.
 

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Capitalism didn't innovate the seat belt. See, you made it up because you base your opinions on ignorance, and then when you looked it up, you failed to notice there wasn't any evidence that capitalism innovated the seat belt. You should stop doing that. Makes you believe ridiculous things.

I wouldn't deny that capitalism has motivated innovation, but your philosophy shouldn't be so clownish that you attribute everything to it. Capitalism isn't God. The free hand of the market is a joke. Use some sense.
 

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Free markets innovated the seat belt, So your right bang on targueted :lol: as a safety feature, because diffrent manufacturing was competing to make the safest car. And that's because safety is a feature that is attractive for buyers.

So a safer car would achieve more sells, stimulating innovation to make cars safer

If safety is not importent to you buy a ladda. :lol:
is there anything you think capitalism didn't invent?
 

Angstrom

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is there anything you think capitalism didn't invent?

It's not that capitalism has specifically invented anything, but more specifically that it has made it accessible to the large general public. A innovation is useless if everyone can't buy it.

Capitalism didn't innovate the seat belt. See, you made it up because you base your opinions on ignorance, and then when you looked it up, you failed to notice there wasn't any evidence that capitalism innovated the seat belt. You should stop doing that. Makes you believe ridiculous things.

I wouldn't deny that capitalism has motivated innovation, but your philosophy shouldn't be so clownish that you attribute everything to it. Capitalism isn't God. The free hand of the market is a joke. Use some sense.

Sure, I see your point but capitalism is not so gloom and doom like you socialist make it out to be, and that's why I'm over compensating positively for your negetive over compensating and creating a balence.

In other words you look as silly to me as I'm looking silly to you.
 

Corduroy

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It's not that capitalism has specifically invented anything, but more specifically that it has made it accessible to the large general public. A innovation is useless if everyone can't buy it.



Sure, I see your point but capitalism is not so gloom and doom like you socialist make it out to be, and that's why I'm over compensating positively for your negetive over compensating and creating a balence.

In other words you look as silly to me as I'm looking silly to you.

I would hardly describe myself as doom and gloom, but if you were interested in a serious conversation, I can back up my negative opinions of capitalism with evidence. I'm not making up any of the things I say, whereas this seat belt thing came out of nowhere and when you tried to back it up after the fact, you came up with one cherry picked paragraph from wikipedia, which didn't even prove your case.

is there anything you think capitalism didn't invent?

I'm waiting for someone to joke that capitalism invented communism, then I can be like... well... I have some light reading for you

 

petros

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If that's the penultimate, what's the ultimate?

Ruling by the barrel of a gun says Mao.

Capitalism didn't innovate the seat belt. See, you made it up because you base your opinions on ignorance, and then when you looked it up, you failed to notice there wasn't any evidence that capitalism innovated the seat belt. You should stop doing that. Makes you believe ridiculous things.

I wouldn't deny that capitalism has motivated innovation, but your philosophy shouldn't be so clownish that you attribute everything to it. Capitalism isn't God. The free hand of the market is a joke. Use some sense.

I believe it was Ford who offered the option which became so popular it became a standard feature.
 

petros

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Ford had consulted with Cornell, conducted crash tests, and invested millions in developing a package of safety features called Life Guard Design. They demonstrated the results of their safety improvements with crash tests conducted with test dummies on new Fairlanes — and hoped that other manufacturers would join them in making cars safer. The heavily advertised Life Guard package, which included front and rear lap belts, was marketed to purchasers of 1956 Fords as a way to protect themselves and their families. Any number of engineers and inventors had contributed to the safety features. The two-point, quick release AutoCrat Safety Belt Ford used, for example, has been credited to William Myron Moe and brothers Kenneth and Bob Ligon.

As Ford stressed safety, GM continued using appealing ladies to advertise power under the hood. The buying public concluded that if Ford had to add so many safety features to its cars, they must have been more dangerous than other cars. Ford saw its sales plummet, with Chevrolet taking a convincing lead. That prompted Henry Ford II to say, "McNamara [Ford's President] is selling safety, but Chevrolet is selling cars." Ford's safety campaign had been a disaster; safety didn't sell. Ford shifted its ad campaign and did not offer seat belts as standard equipment in its '57 models.