Capitalism can not eradicate poverty

HarperCons

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Of course not, he's a bourgeois clown. But he knows the system is bad for most of the earth, and only good for privileged cocksuckers like him.
 

AnnaG

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Bill Gates has an opinion. Good for him. Government R&D is the answer! HALLELUYAH!
uhuh Right.
Which governments prodded people into battery research and development? Which governments caused Shell Oil to research alternative energy sources? None. It was environmental movements from regular people not any government people.
Who are the people that started developing solar energy capture and usage? It was not government. It was a handful of private citizens. Did government develop the telephone? A couple Germans invented the gadget and A G Bell patented the first working phone. All private individuals, no governments.
Governments rarely move until private concerns do something to grab gov't interest.
 

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Bill Gates has an opinion. Good for him. Government R&D is the answer! HALLELUYAH!
uhuh Right.
Which governments prodded people into battery research and development? Which governments caused Shell Oil to research alternative energy sources? None. It was environmental movements from regular people not any government people.
Who are the people that started developing solar energy capture and usage? It was not government. It was a handful of private citizens. Did government develop the telephone? A couple Germans invented the gadget and A G Bell patented the first working phone. All private individuals, no governments.
Governments rarely move until private concerns do something to grab gov't interest.

Solar energy capture and usage was not developed by humans.
 

HarperCons

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Bill Gates has an opinion. Good for him. Government R&D is the answer! HALLELUYAH!
uhuh Right.
Which governments prodded people into battery research and development? Which governments caused Shell Oil to research alternative energy sources? None. It was environmental movements from regular people not any government people.
Who are the people that started developing solar energy capture and usage? It was not government. It was a handful of private citizens. Did government develop the telephone? A couple Germans invented the gadget and A G Bell patented the first working phone. All private individuals, no governments.
Governments rarely move until private concerns do something to grab gov't interest.
You're not accurate. Innovation has been fueled by public funding. I've posted an article dispelling your myth that you still try to propagate.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/03/socialism-innovation-capitalism-smith/
 

darkbeaver

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Overcoming False Consciousness
"Only if false consciousness is transformed into true consciousness, that is, only if we are aware of reality, rather than distorting it by rationalizations and fictions, can we also become aware of our real and true human needs." - Erich Fromm [10]
As capitalism evolved in the United States, so too did the probability of widespread, working-class consciousness. This was evident throughout the first half of the 20th century, which birthed a radical labor movement that garnered many key victories. However, despite this period of working-class progress, capitalism ultimately prevailed. The late-1900s brought higher concentrations of wealth, tax schemes beneficial to the wealthy, increased inequality, and an overall deterioration of the industrialized working classes which, after fighting for decades to carve out a piece of the pie, were decimated by globalization.
Our new reality is now shaped by crippling and lifelong debt, poverty wages, chronic underemployment and unemployment, and rampant insecurities regarding access to basic necessities. The problems faced by Owen, Crass, and the entire working crew showcased in Tressell's book are the same problems we face now. They are the same fundamental problems faced by working-class people centuries over: a lack of autonomy, a lack of control, and a near-total absence of self-determination. And, ironically, with the onset of globalized capitalism, the ownership class has become more connected than ever, while the working class has become more disconnected than ever. This disconnectedness, and the reversal of many of the hard-fought gains won by organized labor, has created an environment that breeds false consciousness.  INFORMATION CLEARING HOUSE. NEWS, COMMENTARY & INSIGHT
False consciousness is, at its core, an ideological problem; but it is shaped by the realities created by capitalism - exploitation, isolation, and dehumanization


 

AnnaG

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You're not accurate. Innovation has been fueled by public funding. I've posted an article dispelling your myth that you still try to propagate.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/03/socialism-innovation-capitalism-smith/
lol Tony Smith huh? Another opinion? That is your rebuttal?
SOME innovations have been promoted by public funds through grants and other things. SOME researchers in universities have been innovative.

And I see you have now dumped communism and are idealizing socialism (state owned interests). You have finally figured out that humans are not bees or ants and that communist countries have elitist leaders.
 

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Overcoming False Consciousness
"Only if false consciousness is transformed into true consciousness, that is, only if we are aware of reality, rather than distorting it by rationalizations and fictions, can we also become aware of our real and true human needs." - Erich Fromm [10]
As capitalism evolved in the United States, so too did the probability of widespread, working-class consciousness. This was evident throughout the first half of the 20th century, which birthed a radical labor movement that garnered many key victories. However, despite this period of working-class progress, capitalism ultimately prevailed.






Yes. Capitalists prevailed, by making reforms within a capitalist framework, a tireless propaganda system which liberals to this day still parrot, pitting middle class against lower class creating a buffer between the capitalist ruling class, pitting races against each other. Class consciousness is obliterated, the working classes fight with each other - often times because some part of the working class asks for better wages, and the other part decries they're undeserving. We've been reduced to pathetic worshipers of the designers.


lol Tony Smith huh? Another opinion? That is your rebuttal?
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No, this isn't an opinion but a reality. You obviously didn't read the article.

.... or socialism or communism or organized religion or the human race in general (at least not commonly. Altruism is rare anywhere).


Communism/Socialism is by definition altruistic.
 

AnnaG

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oooo Someone has been plagiarising (or at least paraphrasing) stuff from marxists.org
The difference in font is a dead giveaway in cut & pastes