Canadian Idol Fans Watching American Idol

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Well, missaddicted, I think 99% of the fans who fly distances to see their favorites and all the rest of it are women. And I'm a guy, so I guess I don't identify. Guys do fly big distances to go to the Superbowl, though. Somehow that's a little more understandable to me. Since it's a competition, and a huge event, not a 60 minute concert. But people can certainly do whatever they want if it floats their boat.

I think basically Glamberts just annoy me. So if it was Cook fans, they wouldn't annoy me. I admit it's totally unreasonable. And I don't care!! Haha.

 

[SleepinIn]

Justin Beiber looks so young in that picture. Not that he doesn't usually, but he usually has a more "knowing" grin or something (which I find irritating) but he just looks like a young kid there - which he is.

It kind of says something significant, to me. I mean, I can totally see why he matters to them. As a musician and a person. I just think it's very telling.

Isn't it interesting how many of them mention Kris? I agree. It says something to me too.

 

[SleepinIn]

Since it's a competition, and a huge event, not a 60 minute concert. But people can certainly do whatever they want if it floats their boat.

How long is the superbowl? LOL I wouldn't fly to that.. ever.

But I think in a lot of cases, it's just as much a social thing as it is a 60 minute concert. Think of it like a tailgate party at a football game.

You meet for dinner, you meet up afterward, you discuss. There are a lot of bands that have guy fans that do the same. Look at Jimmy Buffet, or the Grateful Dead or Pearl Jam, all of them have fans that travel, and are girls and guys. Idol may be overwhelming female, but the experience of fans traveling to a concert isn't only female.

 

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Isn't it interesting how many of them mention Kris? I agree. It says something to me too.

Of course, it's also strange that it seems unusual. If it was last year and they all mentioned David Cook as a sort of hero, it would just seem normal. Yet we're a little surprised how they admire Kris. Are we as brainwashed by the media (or the crazy blog posters) as everyone else?

Yes, Kris, stay away from Randy!! Justin Beiber is okay -- as long as he doesn't punch you again.

 

[ross 1]

How long is the superbowl? LOL I wouldn't fly to that.. ever.

It's about 3 or 4 hours at least, with the halftime show and all. Of course, it's also a case of it being a competition that in some cases people have been following for months (if it's their team). It's not just entertainment.

Yeah, you're right, guys do follow some acts. Not Idols, so much. I think as I said, being honest, it's the Adam fans who have that superior attitude that just annoy me.
I mean, Jimmy Buffet fans don't post about how beautiful and perfect and unique and special and better than anyone else ever he is. It's just not the same.

 

[SleepinIn]

Of course, it's also a case of it being a competition that in some cases people have been following for months (if it's their team). It's not just entertainment.

Just like Idol. It's a blood sport.

I mean, Jimmy Buffet fans don't post about how beautiful and perfect and unique and special and better than anyone else ever he is. It's just not the same.

Okay, got me on that one. That's irritating for everyone.

 

[missaddicted]

You can watch the Superbowl on TV :wink:.

I'm kidding, I understand what you mean.

But I think in a lot of cases, it's just as much a social thing as it is a 60 minute concert. Think of it like a tailgate party at a football game.

Yes, that's a good point that I realized I forgot to make in my post. Meeting other fans, that sometimes don't have anything other in common with you than the fact that you love the same artist, is an amazing part of fandom.

 

[ross 1]

Just like Idol. It's a blood sport.

LOL!

Okay, I get what you're saying. But Idol is only a competition when there actually is a competition at the moment. Like, I could understand people going to the AI finale from 3000 miles away, better than I can understand going to a small Adam concert. But whatever they want to do, they can do. I don't care. They're the ones that have to sit through it. ;-)

This is why I never go on their threads to say comparable things like they say about Kris. (That, and also because I'm not a psycho. lol) "Your guy sucks." What's the point?
Saying it doesn't make it so.

I get all you're saying about socializing, etc., and all your other points. But I guess I reserve the right to be unreasonably disdainful toward this particular fan group! Can't help it.

 

[missaddicted]

Gah. Predictably, WWFM took the #1 spot on the VH1 countdown. LLWD fell to #4.

 

[missaddicted]

From USA Today (Nielsen report shows the 'American Idol' impact on music sales - Idol Chatter: American Idol News, Rumors, & Information)

• Eighty percent of the people who watched the American Idol season finale in 2009 were 35 or older.

I thought that was interesting. I knew the median age of people watching the show had gone up a lot between season 1 and season 9, but that statistic from USA Today is quite telling.

 

[missaddicted]

Woot! Kris is the highest charting Idol on CHR (he passes Kelly... or rather, Kelly's song is losing steam). He's also #8 on HAC:

Top 40
21 19 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We're Dyin... 3640 3134 +506 21.426
17 20 KELLY CLARKSON Already Gone 3607 4174 -567 19.590
29 26 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 2553 2081 +472 17.457
28 28 DAUGHTRY Life After You 2495 2284 +211 9.142
66 65 ALLISON IRAHETA Friday I'll Be Over U 208 174 +34 0.423
70 72 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Cowboy Casanova 128 146 -18 0.443
134 148 GENERAL LARRY PLATT Pants On The Ground 18 23 -5 0.116
257 189 ELLIOTT YAMIN Fight For Love 9 5 +4 0.041
223 KRIS ALLEN Heartless 6 0 +6 0.038
225 270 JASON CASTRO Let's Just Fall In Love Again 5 7 -2 0.001

Hot AC
3 3 KELLY CLARKSON Already Gone 3688 3870 -182 20.056
9 7 DAUGHTRY Life After You 2762 2525 +237 13.683
10 8 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We're Dyin... 2707 2525 +182 13.756
25 25 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Cowboy Casanova 1027 1170 -143 3.918
36 33 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 503 440 +63 1.679

 

[SleepinIn]

Woot! Kris is the highest charting Idol on CHR (he passes Kelly... or rather, Kelly's song is losing steam). He's also #8 on HAC:

Whoo hooo!! And Heartless is 223???

and I'm done with Pants on the ground now, it can go away.

I thought that was interesting. I knew the median age of people watching the show had gone up a lot between season 1 and season 9, but that statistic from USA Today is quite telling.

That explains a lot, doesn't it?

 

[ross 1]

Gah. Predictably, WWFM took the #1 spot on the VH1 countdown. LLWD fell to #4.

Freakin sparkle cows. Grrr. I wonder why Kris fell all the way to #4? Can they actually vote against him? What if they keep putting him in the #20 spot? Would that drive him down the chart? I wouldn't put it past them.

 

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I thought that was interesting. I knew the median age of people watching the show had gone up a lot between season 1 and season 9, but that statistic from USA Today is quite telling.

That explains a lot, doesn't it?

What does it explain?

 

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[ross 1]

I'll drink to that.

 

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It’s Grammy time in Hollywood, and the swag parade has already begun. Kris Allen obviously wonders why he is forced to pose with free crap at such events. A humble kid from Arkansas, I would assume he sees the ridiculousness in such activities. But he goes along with it, of course. And he does it is his own special Kris Allen way clearly indicating he just does not give a rat’s ass while at the same time, being a super nice guy.

(--quote from Top Idol. Italics mine.)

 

[SleepinIn]

What does it explain?

I don't know - it's a theory, but there seems to be a disconnect between what people (like Randy) think the music they are going to put out will sound like and what they actually want to do.

Like for instance I never ever thought Adam was going to be Elivs or Led Zepplin, or Queen. But there seems to be this huge group of people who thought that's what he wanted to do.

Or Kris -- and country.

How this relates to the median age..? Well, I don't know.. lol But it does somehow.

From an interview the other day

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From the Clive Davis party today. Kris was just interviewed, I was watching online at the time - by chance, lol - and he was hilarious.


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This is the party link
http://www.myspace.com/thegrammys

IT's crazy.. they have no idea who anyone is.

I got a tiny bit more of the interview but it's a huge file but if you want it - I'll put the link below - there's not much more to it though and the youtube link pretty much is everything they say. The interviewer was a ditz but Kris was hilarious and called her out on it.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SH7Y1SKM

 

[missaddicted]

Kris was looking way better today!

I think the age thing was interesting to me, because we heard so many times how Adam, for example, was so hip, so "international star", so you might have expected that he would have driven younger people to watch AI. But no. (And I'm not personally surprised by this, I'm just talking in general.) I mean, the real American stars of today, or even international stars, they attract a lot of young people, like Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga. Adam made his mark on a show watched by "older people" and it's clearly not the market he's trying to reach. Because as much as they try to pass him as "Queen-Madonna-Led Zepplin-David Bowie" (not my description, it's actually the description that the Fantasy Springs casino, where Adam will give his show, gave him, or something close, bwah!), it's not what he's actually doing. There's a disconnect there and it might maybe explain why they can't make Adam into an "international superstar" just like that. Or maybe I'm crazy-talking.

ETA: ross, are you reading AL official? You closet Glambert!

 

[ross 1]

I don't know - it's a theory, but there seems to be a disconnect between what people (like Randy) think the music they are going to put out will sound like and what they actually want to do.

Like for instance I never ever thought Adam was going to be Elivs or Led Zepplin, or Queen. But there seems to be this huge group of people who thought that's what he wanted to do.

Or Kris -- and country.

How this relates to the median age..? Well, I don't know.. lol But it does somehow.

I guess I don't know how this relates to median age, to be honest with you. Unless it means the older people are, the stupider they are. I know you aren't saying that, so I guess I don't get it.

I don't know about Adam, really. But Kris, I do know, and I don't think anyone expected him to go country. (I don't get why anyone would think that. Because he sang one country/pop song with Keith Urban?)

(If you mean people on MJ's blog who say that, a lot of them are just bitterberts who like to imply he's lousy at what he does, so he should be doing country. I've seen that kind of post many times. And then there are people who think having a southern accent makes you a country artist.)

I watched the party link earlier but I missed Kris. Maybe someone recorded it.